frankly involved with chuck schwab who is also dyslexic. he and i talked to a bunch of admissions people in colleges allowing people to have timed tests and bringing early and people who have dyslexia come in and they can be very productive members of society. >> going back to the obama care issue. i want to run this in 2009 with people who are now president talking about the whole business. >> the reason i visited the cleveland clinic is because along with the mayo clinic, they have been able to drive down costs more than any other health care system out there while maintaining the highest quality. how did you go about doing it? they started this thing -- when was it started? cleveland clinic? 1921. and what they've done is, for example, doctors who are part of the cleveland clinic get paid a salary instead of getting paid fee per service. that makes it easier for them to make some of the changes because people don't feel like maybe they're losing mount of pocket. they know they're getting a salary. >> should everybody else do what you've