. >> not chuck shumer, chuck hagel.ill be confirmed by the united states senate. >> absolutely. >> no doubt? >> even you? >> i would say 70%. >> wait a minute. wait a minute. >> i think there is a doubt. he may need five republicans to clear. >> i don't think they will filibuster. >> that suggests. >> i like him. >> he had a rough hearing john. >> he had a rough hearing. >> he is not preparing for the hearings. >> he did not do as well as i hope he did and i'm a shumer guy. excuse me, i'm a hagel >> updat >> to the extent that. >> on this issue have been turned upside down. for the first time ever, there is more political risk in opposing immigration reform than in supporting it. >> there was a mighty political push this week. for changing u.s. immigration law with a bipartisan group of senators dubbed the gang of eight. on monday proposing a major overhaul. along with democrat chuck shumer, new york, the senate plan is backed by democrats robert menendez, new jersey, dick durbin, illinois, michael bennett, colorado, re

we need to live up to what happened in nine 86 under simpson and secure our borders and yet chuck shumer talking about that. that securing the borders should not be the enemy of dealing with the illegals in this country. back in '86, the argument was in we don't secure the border and we are giving amnesty it will be a great influx of more illegals in the country and that's what happened and that's what we need to do first. take care . border and then you deal with the 11 million people who are here and you center to fix the whole immigration policy in the united states of america. you can't stand in line for 10-15 years to get in america. that's why the brains are going to the other country in the world. america doesn't want anybody anymore. >> did your father regret the decision knowing that the enforcement was eclusive. >> he . and he was upset with the fact that the border was never secured and that promised to him in that piece of legislation. what a lot of people don't understand. when we cut out the program in the 1960s because . farm labor unions. we didn't stop hispanics from com