it is something that as shell, who has been looking to operate up north in the chukchi, as they have been working with the native constituency up there and working with the regulators, that's one of the issues that has been -- has been confounding them. .. >> i have been in complete agreement with chairman bingaman that this is not a good thing for our energy bill. and nothing has happened of late that would convince me otherwise. senator boxer has indicated that she intends to move something from her committee, environment and public works by the end of the summer, and i know that the majority leader is looking to that prospect of how you could team the two bills together. i think that what we have in this energy bill is actually for the awards that are in it, there are good component pieces that really do help us to reduce our emissions, that really do get us on that right path so that we are seeing lower emissions around the country. so if we were not to pass a cap-and-trade bill this year, and we were to pass an energy bill, i think we would actually be doing something positive w