they've got the chunnel, they've got the trains that go 300 miles an hour. we ride that wild west buckboard called the amtrak, which is nice, but it certainly is yesterday. they've got -- put a big tunnel to new york from new jersey. tell that governor to get out of the way and put that thing in. we have bullet train in asia. everybody's ahead of us now and we're put-putting along here like it's 1953. your thoughts, governor? >> secretary reich is absolutely right. it's the time for action. the president should understand what the american people, i think, are looking for in this election is what's next? what are the plans? we know the economy's improved, but it's stalled. what's next? governor romney is suggesting that we cut taxes. first of all, that's never worked in the last 60 years, but even if it were to work, that's two, three, four years down the road. we need action now. i think bob's plan is a good one, particularly infrastructure. 25,000 jobs are produced for every billion dollars of infrastructure spending. every expert agrees with that. chris,