churchill that small portions. when traveling he had his meal served on his tummy time, not on the clock. churchill that connects. whatever they please with the weather of wartime. there's another photo showing him in a three-piece suit, sitting on a rock by the side of the road. he picnicked with roosevelt at height dark on the banks of the right with his generals and in the north african desert with friends. he established his own picnicked rituals, and do theatrically sick and old joe's controversies that could only be recited as picked acts. much has been said about churchill alcohol, some of it true, most not, some exaggerated. i go into detail about his drinking habit. roosevelt had been told churchill was a chart, a charge one or two of his critics repeated. churchill did consume more alcohol than we are used today, but not a great deal of the standards of his contemporary and did not affect him or his work. >> and now, logan beirne examines george washington thoughts on politics and government during wartim

i just wrote and said why do you think churchill is so pro-jewish? in the wrote back, because he is intelligent. [laughter] in fact he went with lawrence of arabia to palestine after world war i. [inaudible] >> he was in he wiseman very much and apparently an english bishop said something derogatory about wiseman. lawrence of arabia wrote a letter and it's uncertain whether he sent it or not in which he wrote and said you are not fit to wear wiseman's shoes. churchmen -- churchill was very pro-jewish and he had a slight change of thought when a friend of his was assassinated by two jewish young men in egypt, yeah. actually when churchill went to the lawrence of arabia who assted visor in the middle east, a group of herbst would shoot and kill off the jews which lawrence knew what they were saying and he didn't tell churchill what they were saying. there is somebody over there asking for a microphone. >> i would like to know how you research the book. did you realize -- rely solely on historic documents were for you able to conduct personal interviews

>> second only to churchill. he was described as the savior of his nation and i think margaret thatcher was also the savior of her nation. you know, the others on the panel won't know what britain was like in the 1970s, but you and i know, piers, that the country was in an appalling mess. she single-handedly turned that around. she is up there second only to churchill, in my view. >> fareed, rather like churchill, she got kicked out. churchill got kicked out of course after the second world war. british have a way of doing these things. but where does she stand globally, do you think? >> oh, i would agree, i think in some ways, in some ways, she's more consequential than churchill and i don't mean to belittle in any way churchill. but thatcher is the only british prime minister that i can think of who has an "ism" named after her, thatcherism. churchill was a political gadfly, he moved around, he was conservative, he was liberal. margaret thatcher came into the western world was in a way people don't remember now

new bank notes will bear a portrait of sir winston churchill. they'll go into circulation in 2016. he led the british in their fight against nazi germany. he was also a writer. the new bank note shows the nobel literature prize medal he won in 1953. bank of england governor said churchill is a fine choice, because he was a great leader, orator and writer. >>> that concludes this edition of ne"newsline." thank you for joining us.

the very interesting thing about winston churchill was, i was a young newspaper reporter at the beginning of world war ii, and there was a lot of reporting about winston churchill being so pro-jewish, pro-issue. kind of wrote to a jewish member of parliament. he was quite famous in his day, called emanuel schimmel, i just wrote and said, why do you think churchill is so pro-jewish? and he wrote back, because he's intelligent. [laughter] >> in fact he went to lawrence of arabia to palestine after world war i. >> [inaudible] >> he was. he admired wiseman very much. and apparently it might've been even -- know, an english bishop said something, derogatory about wiseman. lawrence of arabia wrote a letter and it's not certain whether he sent it or not, in which he wrote to the british and said you're not fit to blank weitzman shoes. church was very pro-jewish and pro-israel. he had a slight change of course when a close friend of his was assassinated like two young jewish young men in egypt. >> [inaudible] >> actually when churchill went with lawrence of arabia, was his adviser, they went to a

everything you said about churchill was right.tablished the potential of middle class people to rule their countries. i mean, neither she nor reagan were tough. neither one had economics, but they both had this character almost collusion with their countries. they knew their countries really well and they knew their strivings to get back on their feet, again. after weak leadership and decisi decision. . they both grasp that. the conservative party never had the gutsy sense of, you have to be tough. you can't always be accommodating and diplomatic. i think she knew that. she saw her spot, as reagan did, and went to jump. the great politician like michael jordan in basketball. you play your part, you play your position and then you go for it when you see your opportunity. you are the pro and then the excellent pro when you see the opportunity. i think reagan did things like with the way he handled his presidency and with normally and sort of rebuilding that confidence we had after normdy and bringing that back in 1984. certainly wit

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deserved it because they were capitalist tools, you know him don't you churchill. know of him? university of colorado. university of colorado effectively fired him. it was a charge that he plagiarized something. churchill tried to take it to the supreme court. this week it was like hey, ward, you are threw. you are out. that's it. he has no ware else to go. you say? >> i say the supreme court was right not to take it on. look, churchill used his professorship as a place to attack americans who died in 9/11 and there is a certain line that even under free speech you can't yell fire in a firehouse. >> particularly where you are supposed to be an educator. there is another one and people may not know this name. it's cathy baden was a member of the weather underground. she was convicted of murder for an armored car robbery where two police officers and one brinks guy were killed. all right? and she served 22 years in prison and paroled in 2003. cathy bow deb. all right. now, she has now achieved somehow a professorship at columbia university and a lot of people going w

churchill buff, or nut even, was he knew he had to fight the nazis. there was no talking to these guys. they had to be beaten. i watched "winds of war" the other night again. the guy says the only thing i want to know about the germans is to lick them. they always knew it came down to talks. you had to negotiate. they weren't crazy, these communists. you could deal with them on self-interest and get somewhere. they both ended up getting somewhere with gorbachev. >> which was not easily forecastable. she said, i can go business with him, i like gorbachev. reagan had not met with any soviet leader because he said, well, they keep dying on me. now this young man, gorbachev, she sized him up and said we can do business with him. as you remember, that first summit was tough but it led to a lot of other things. >> geneva was very important. you were there i'm sure. thank you, doug brinkley. thank you, andrea mitchell, my colleague. >>> up next, ever notice how any time republicans don't like something president obama wants to do, they call it an assault on

> a massive intergalactic hur acain you have to see to believe >>> what once belonged to winston churchill. how much this beautiful ride sold for and why other than it's previous owner is such a collector's item. >>> we are looking at 101, smooth drive on university avenue. we'll talk about the east bay. a little bit of trouble there coming up off of 238. >>> welcome back. live to san francisco international airport. looks like its own city as the planes get ready to make their first flights out of the bay area on this tuesday morning. 4:53 now. >>> a rare car once used by former british prime minister, winston churchill, has been sold on ebay. the coupe sold for $616,000. it is the only one of its kind left. only eight were built. a british auction house tried to sell it but the owners put it on ebay. 114 offers, no information about the actual buyer. >> over $600,000. i bet it doesn't even have navigation. >> i am sure it does not. >> man. mike inouye is here, speaking of fine automobiles. what's happening on the roads, my man? >>> we are looking over here toward the san mateo bridge. a

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this wednesday, in today's time -- two days time, i was that churchill's funeral. that is not what the whole truth. i was an 18-year-old student who had hitchhiked to london and spent the night on the pavement and watched the arrival at st. paul's cathedral. we will honor the other great last 50,ister of the 60, 70 years. in a similar way. that is something that not only we can be proud of, the country can be proud of, but the whole to her in which they fully recognize as well. >> angus robertson. >> thank you for the opportunity to be able to make a brief contribution. i would like to acknowledge that margaret thatcher was one of the most formidable politicians of recent times. to her family, friends, colleagues, supporters, i extend the condolences of my party. would be wrong not to put on record the profound as agreement with her socially and economic devices policies, which were particularly opposed in scotland and wales. we will never forget, we will never forgive the poll tax eating imposed on scott's the year before the rest of the uk. no country should have

winston churchill said that any man who was not a socialist before he is 40 has no heart and after, head. i think that kind of evolution is very common in people. saw,ose two characters you one was the einstein of the law, the, and arlen specter was einstein of the senate. then specter was one of hardest, toughest senators to argue with anything. he studied. bork was smarter than judge rehnquist in many ways. he was a brilliant judge and he taught antitrust law. he wrote the book. here are these two guys meeting and they will passing like two trains. the could not come together on anything. >> more with the deputy assistant to both presidents nixon and ford tonight at 8:00 on c-span is "q &a." >> this morning, a political roundtable with republican strategist john fuery on the issues facing contrast -- facing congress.

back over the years in terms of the united states, you have to go back to somebody like winston churchill to somebody with that degree of affection and relationship that the american people had for her and especially president reagan. >> the brits are going to honor her with the same level of funeral as they did for winston churchill, prince diana and queen mother. >> i think that's appropriate. >> mr. vice president, nice to see you, sir. >> good to see you, greta. >> straight ahead, pat buchanan calls prime minister thatcher a kindred soul with president reagan. pat buchanan is here to tell you why next. >>> also, two more former president reagan advisers. hear firsthand how the reagan/thatcher team took on economics and the cold war. >>> and former first lady nancy reagan on her husband's special relationship with britain's iron lady. >> in his lifetime, ronald reagan was such a cheerful and invigorating presence. it was easy to forget what daunting, historic tasks he set himself. he saw to mend america's wounded spirit, to restore the strength of the free world and to free the slaves

if i think back, her terms of the united states, have you to go back to winston churchill to find somebody with that degree of infection and relationship that the american people had for her and especially president reagan. >> the brits are going to honor her with the same level of funeral as they did for winston churchill and princess diana and queen mother. >> i think that's appropriate. i think she would love that. >> i think she probably would love t. mr. vice-president, nice to see you, sir. >> good it see you. >> trait ahead, former president reagan advisor pat buchanan calls prime minister thatcher, a kindred soul with president reagan. he is here next. and two more former president reagan advisers. how the reagan/thatcher team took on economics and the cold war. >> in his lifetime, ronald reagan was such an invigorating presence, it was easy to forget the daunting task he set himself. he sought to mend the american wounded spirit, to restore the strength of a free world and to free the slaves from communism. more than two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. a

reagan was one of those people very like winston churchill. he felt if only given the chance to sit across the table from someone, he could persuade them to do anything. he was so convinced of his own salesmanship and his own powers of persuasion, and he wrote very long -- often to the state department -- embarrassing letters to soviet leaders saying this is where i see the world, and why can't we get together and talk about it? and he said the lack of democracy in the soviet union had mended that the top of the soviet leadership, it was aier on tock rah si. these were old, gray men nearing death. and as ronnie reagan said, you know, i'd love to negotiate with a soviet leader, but they keep dying on me. margaret thatcher turned it to good effect. yes, they were dying, but, actually, she was invited to every funeral. there were four in a row. she thought maybe if i go to the funeral, maybe i can work out to who comes next, and she did. the narrowed it could down to to people. one of them was roam november, but anyway, he played his cards wrong,

it is imbued with ideas of state funerals, winston churchill -- it is also for people of the right age, it talks about the falklands war because there was an extraordinary gamble. saving britain's reputation. a victory parade and a victory service. she had a public fight with the head of the church of england about the nature of that service. it should be a victory service or should it be a remembrance of the dead. this is how things were and that point, 1983. the archbishop of canterbury hated thatcher, or dislike her strongly. he wore that metal on his casket in the pulpit in support of the cathedral. and everybody understood that this was his rebuke of the prime minister who is he saw as a warmonger, taking credit for the victory. so it is a very political space. all of that will be floating around as people watch this ceremonial national parade. the fact that it is in this place. all of that is in the air. host: the video coming from bbc when the funeral started, the reverend spoke. one of the first few things he said was a storm of controversy. conflicting opinions about the prime

if you talk to modern politicians, any party, they say she is the greatest prime minister since churchill. the most substantial. and i sort of agree, although i found her re-- personally. but she did astina said, she broke the class system. those keiths and ses ils and normans. they wouldn't have had a look in a traditional tory cabinet level. >> she liked jews too which was very unusual for the tory party. >> rose: she liked jews. >> she did. she had a lot of jewish people in her parliament. >> she did do that, economists or foreign policy people or across-the-board. >> clever people. >> clever people. >> but she did turn, she defeated the trade unions by turning the working class on itself, divide and conquer. by rewarding scabbing, for instance. and by flogging off council houses, projects to the wealthier skilled workers. so that they were emancipated from the rump of the working class. >> she challenged-- challenged the party to become leader of the opposition at the time. and then she was challenged by the party herself in the end. >> yeah. >> and lost her leadership. >> betrayed by

she worshipped, she admired winston churchill enormously.one looks at this as something that was done for freedom, what she did with communism w long with ronald reagan is very much the same with what roosevelt and churchill did with fascism. >> they did not necessarily see eye to eye, reagan and thatcher when it came to the relationship with gr gorbachev. >> when push came to shove, they saw eye to eye on the big issue. it was the personal relationship between margaret that mucher and ronald reagan that helped bring an end to the cold war. >> i was alluding to when reagan met with gorbachev. baroness margaret thatcher reacted to that by traveling to the united states to speak with president reagan at the time. >> that demonstrated how close the relationship was, where both of them felt so comfortable around each other that they could be candid and open and truly be friends. this is exactly what took place at the time between ronald reagan and margaret thatcher. they were close, they cooperated, worked together and they were able to achieve

well, churchill was given a state funeral. i don't suppose anyone would argue that churchill was a savior not only of britain, but of the western world, the civilized world. so maybe she doesn't quite come up to that, but she's pretty close in terms of postwar prime ministers. i can't think of anyone who comes close to her, and yet she will not be given, actually, the affection she deserves. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> well, since lady thatcher is a patron of the heritage foundation, i am sure it will be well recognized here, as most of her life is. one other thing, i had not realized physical you mentioned again today that she had taken the organ and could play that music. president reagan also was musicically talented. he played the harmonica. [laughter] he had to learn it for a movie, and he occasionally would still play it. so there were things. again, the book is "ronald reagan and margaret thatcher: a political marriage." we thank you for your kind attention and hope you'll be back with us again in the future. we are

better in his position at home and better for his position than any other world leaders including churchill to talk to lots but didn't do anything for the jews and was bad for immigration and policy even after the concentration camps were repealed jews were continued to revere roosevelt even with his policy did not emerge in tall much later after critical books are written in the late '60s. >>host: professor allan lichtman was there an opportunity in the '30's to change your of fact what was about to happen in germany? >> it would be very difficult to change the course of events. hitler had his own plan for world domination, his hatred of jews and persecution and slaughter was not a secondary that was primary to his ideology and his approach to the world people wondered why in the world with tens of millions dying and the fate of the world hanging in the balance why would they divert resources simply to hunting out it was hard for americans to understand but that was never a diversion from the war but a primary objective of the war to which you would devote resources to hunting down a peopl

in denver, how can you support the removal of ward churchill from the university of colorado?ther shaver from george washington u? aren't both free speech issues? well, it's a fair question, although i suspect you're trolling the left wing web sites. churchill is a teacher who was presenting false information and scenarios to his students and the public. the university dismissed him for academic dereliction, upheld by the courts. father shave service a chaplain who is preaching the tenets of his church and doesn't represent the university. so that's the difference and there is a big difference. in milwaukee, wisconsin, bill, do you agree with what the priests are saying about gays? i have no opinion on what he's saying, other than under religious freedom, the father has a right to say what he wants. i leave the theological questions to the theologians and they differ on homosexuality, according to each faith and sect and religion. father benedict from vermont, you do a better job impending the catholic church than many bishops. i don't think so, father, most americans are gett

one of the last truly honorable resignations, and his memory goes back to winston churchill.rm the alliance of liberal and social democrats emerge now as liberal democrats. a staunch, stout defender of her, still is, angry often spirit yorkshireman who puts up with no nonsense from anybody. >> when we, correspondence, downing street said what we meant was, he was allowed spent and charles, a close adviser there on the left, sitting next to the duchess of york, fergie. can't mistake that hair. >> his brother went on to be tony blair's chief of staff. >> i thought the most powerful image, gabe, that we've seen is this extraordinary image of the monarch watching the coffin of a politician. if i may say, a mere politician as a work in british constitutional terms, being taken away. there was all this debate whether it was a state funeral. it was an. it was a ceremonial funeral but there was an extraordinary sight just to see the monarch waiting. >> forest johnson sitting there next to michael. >> of course, it is interesting in that way. it's also a celebration of a politician by

is the first time the queen has attended the funeral of a prime minister since winston churchill.ive coverage begins at 4:15 a.m. eastern time on c-span two. >> she lives with her favorite uncle. james buchanan years later becomes president. she serves as the white house hostess. she is the first to be called first lady on a regular basis. she is so popular she sets trends in clothing and children and ships are named after her. we will look at her life and that of her predecessor, as

it shows the british royal family on holiday along with winston churchill and lady churchill.e fond of a large piece of driftwood. he just seems to love that driftwood. fast forward to today and some of the most inventive video out there comes from way out there. astronaut chris hadfield is the commander of the international space station. and just to review, it's the big thing with the huge solar panels. six people are living on board. it flies at 17,000 miles an hour. it orbits the earth every 90 minutes, and by plugging your zip code into a website, you can watch it fly overhead at night the next time it passes over you. now back to commander hadfield. he started filming an amazing series of videos to show us what life is like in space, and to remind us they're all living the life up there. just to watch him talk is fascinating. the little things like not having to hold onto the microphone because it's not going anywhere. he answers a lot of questions from school kids, like, how do you brush your teeth? >> brush my teeth just like normal. >> he goes on brushing which seems

here's another one from churchill. "maybe i was being too poetic.ying to say is i'm not wearing pants." [ laughter and applause ] >> steve: wait, what? that might be true. >> jimmy: that might be something -- 'cause i don't know. i don't know him. >> steve: yeah. here's wondering. you don't know. >> jimmy: this next one is from 1600s french philosopher rene descartes. he said, "i think, therefore i am." one of the most famous quotes of all time. another one from descartes. "i stink, therefore i bathe." [ laughter ] i don't know -- >> steve: he might've. >> jimmy: i don't know. yeah, i don't think -- [ light laughter ] here's a quote from one of my favorites, maggie smith. she plays the dowager countess on "downton abbey." she said, "when you get into the granny era, you're lucky to get anything." [ light laughter ] here's another quote from maggie smith. she said, "you guys know i'm talking about the old horizontal boogie, right?" [ laughter and applause ] i think we got -- well, we got the joke the first -- our next quote is from the ancient chines

you put churchill up there. >> we don't do that in the united states. we're pretty narcissistic and we don't revere outsiders. >> churchill, thatcher, tony blair are all leaders. >> we draw the line right there. >> right. however you view her and she is divisive figure in british politics. she was transformative and she took britain from the stale economic chaos of the 1970s. when we were having three days a week of power and there were strikes. the britain i grew up in the 1970s was a whole third world country and she transformed it into a dynamic, modern economy. the way she did that was tough. >> you know, martin, it always struck me that her rhetoric was more strident sometimes on these conservative ideals that she put out there than some of her policy. she didn't try to end some parts of what some deemed as socialist. >> the national health service, the bbc and things like that? that would have been extremely difficult. remember, chuck, the end of her career was not brought about by her rhetoric, but by her policy. it was called the poll tax and it

only comparison is winston churchill. opponents say he was a man who led this country at a time of war, a government of national unity, not to be compared with margaret thatcher, who led a divided country and damage the lives of many people, they say. >> as far as sentiment outside the cathedral, as we are seeing members of the immediate family accepting the cathedral, it appears most of the members of the public gathered have been largely reverential, respectful. but there have been others who feel differently and expressed it as well. respectful.ole, hearse and then pulled by horses on streets lined with many people applauding respectfully as she passed. police mounted an enormous security operation. there on the lookout for all and all sortss, of things from people opposed to margaret thatcher's policies. not much to a place. a couple dozen people did as they had promised on social networking sites to do, turned .heir backs on her cortege that must a reference to a speech she had made. on all, today was respectful. one

. >>> an auto investment of a different speed, a 1939 daimler that once belonged to winston churchill believed to be the last of its kind. an anonymous owner in germany hopes the classic coupe will fetch over $500,000 on ebay. >>> the majority still buy flowers for mother's day and spend about 40 bucks. this is a reminder for you. >>> egg mcmuffins may soon be your new hangover food. >> would you ever consider the big one having mcdonald's serve breakfast all day long? >> yes, we would consider it. this innovation center has come up with innovative ways of us expanding the breakfast hours and some of those things we'll also be seeing here in the near future. >> dylan and i were saying we want the entire menu extended. chicken mcnuggets. >>> michael jordan and longtime girlfriend tie the knot. >>> plus chuckles from the white house correspondents dinner when "early today" returns. >>> you know, this weekend the president took some time out to make some fun of himself, the press and a few others at the annual white house correspondents dinner. in case you missed it, here are some highli

said,ston churchill once any man who is not a socialist before he is 40 has no heart and any man who is a socialist after he is 40 has no head. [laughter] i think that kind of evolution is very evident. trains passing in the night. he was one of the toughest senators to lobby on anything. he did his homework. he studied. he was smarter than him in a lot of ways. he wrote the book at yale. they were passing like two trains. the former deputy assistant to presidents nixon and ford sunday night at 8 p.m. on c-span's "q&a." speed" is theor new framework book for telecommunications policy for the 21st century. the authors are robert litan and hal singer. the current status of broadband in the u.s.? >> it is doing pretty well, but it can do better. we have a high degree of penetration of what the fcc defines as acceptable broadband. it is something called four megabits per second. a megabit is a million bits per second. we measure the speed of broadband by the number of bits per second. the faster you can go, the more stuff you can watch. there is youtube or whatever site you are on and cl

in an echo of the state funeral the queen granted winston churchill in 1965, margaret thatcher's coffin was carried up the steps to st. paul's. the queen and prince philip sat across from the thatcher family. the first reading was given by margaret thatcher's 19-year-old granddaughter who was born in america and is now a student there. >> stand, therefore, and having on the breast plate of righteousness. >> davi >> reporter: david cameron who spent his early years as leader trying to detach himself from margaret thatcher's image gave the second lesson. >> let not your heart be troubled. he believed in god, believe also in me. >> reporter: margaret thatcher's favorite hymns were sung. the details of this morning planned with the palace and downing street in her she lost power. as the coffin left the cathedral, some of her supporters cheered. 48 years since she last attended the funeral of one of her prime ministers the queen stood again on the same steps where she said goodbye to winston churchill. she talked to the thatcher family briefly on the cathedral steps. it may be no politician

. >> reporter: the grocer's daughter who refashioned herself as the cold war's winston churchill. >>gorbachev. we can do business together. >> reporter: in america she was revered as though she was ronald reagan's better half. >> my political soul mate, a great visionary, and a dear, dear friend. >> reporter: in britain, she was a divisive figure. she left office every bit as unpopular as george w. bush did here. >> each charted course -- >> reporter: that uncompromising image and the us versus them policies behind it translated into some distinctly unflattering important trails as on spitting image, britain's political muppet show. >> i did it my way. >> reporter: for a generation of pop culture consumers -- >> hello? >> mr. bond on the line, prime minister. >> reporter: for being a punch line for james bond in "for your eyes only --" >> give us a kiss, give us a kiss. >> well, really, mr. bond. >> reporter: to having a silent cameo in "love actually." >> of course you did. >> reporter: to becoming the tragic heroine. >> this is a day to put differences inside. to hold one's head hi

like winston churchill, her coffin will travel by gun carriage on a road lined by members of all three armed forces. leaders from around the world are expected to be there. quite the former british prime minister margaret thatcher has died. they called her the iron lady. the >> at the site of president reagan, she would claim victory in the cold war. after more than a decade in office she was to earn another ."tle, "that bloody woman collies are sick of her policies of confrontation. >> no, no, no. >> the resignation gave him his excuse. a red eid margaret thatcher left downing street for the last time on the 28th of 1990. she had been brought down not by the electorate but a party who thought the longest serving prime minister in the 20th century had served for quite long enough. conviction back to politics. she showed people buy your own example that the will of somebody can prevail if it is stern enough and if it continues to be stern. >> its silence the country's most powerful political voice. for decades to come, she will continue to tower over the country's politicians in the hou

majesty, the queen, her final honor, extended to no other prime minister since the death of winston churchillthis was a funeral not just for a public figure, but a grandmother and mother. carol thatcher and her brother, mark, watched as his dot -- his daughter, amanda, read from the bible. it sounded to some like a rather thatcherized message. >> having her loins girded with truth and having on the breastplate of the righteousness. >> it also contained a message of moral certainty. >> i am the way, the truth, and the life. no man comes on to the father but by me. >> this was not a moment of speeches, save for one, a family friend, the bishop of london. that persons should not make the sorts of judgments that politicians make. >> after the storm, in the light of the heat of political controversy, there is a great calm. the storm of conflicting opinions centers on the mrs. thatcher who became a symbolic figure, even an ism. but today, the remains of margaret hilda thatcher are here at her funeral service. line year, she is one of us. >> one of us, a thatcher phrase for those she's is being on h

>> let's keep saying it. >> churchill. >> you are, too. >> let me ask you about this dinner tomorrowhich changed my life by the better, at one of these black tie dinners. the great thing is you don't know who you are meeting because everybody is dressing the same. then the first date is where you learn whether they are wear a zoot suit or a blazer. khakis -- >> things are out. >> these are amazing things. who are you sitting with? >> i don't know yet. >> you sat with me. >> by the way, i knew that just being on television and having a certain percentage of people know who you are, like i am lucky to be -- some people don't know who i am. fine. but when you're you, what happens is the guys with the plastic autograph books, they find out where you are and they wait like a hoard of people and you can't hold them back. i had to do this to get you out of that room. >> you were great. you were a tough guy. >> i was a blocking bag. >> you were a tough guy. >> you wrote a letter saying someone that i was butch. i got you out of that room. >> it was great. but see -- >> see how the arts chang

he won't be running at churchill downs. >> rosie: i think, you know, you have to learn in...dustry that if you dwell on every loss, you're going to do a lot of dwelling. >> simon: the best description of racing is probably that old one-- you win some, you lose some. just don't lose too often. >> rosie: i guess it's a humbling sense of that... just because i'm at the top right now doesn't mean that i'll remain there. >> simon: does it worry you? >> rosie: it's just a competitive state of mind. i mean, this game is very, very up and down. you know, jockeys go into slumps, trainers go into slumps. >> simon: but rosie has become a queen in the sport of kings, and she'll be riding another horse in kentucky by the name of mylute. >> here comes mylute charging on the outside. >> simon: last month, he came in a close second in the louisiana derby. at the kentucky derby, he's far from a favorite. but, then again, many a gambler has gone home with empty pockets after betting against rosie. is there anything in life better than winning a race? >> rosie: there's lots of great things in l