her cia boss at the time said, "many officers in the cia were unwilling to serve in this deterioratingisk and thankless environment. mrs. prouty did not waver." while in iraq, prouty's bulletproof vest had to be altered for an extraordinary reason. you were pregnant at the time? >> prouty: correct. >> pelley: people watching this interview right now are asking themselves, "why would she do that?" >> prouty: yes, and i ask myself now, looking at my child, "how could i put her life in danger?" but that's what i wanted to do. i couldn't look at our marines that are standing outside guarding us and tell them, "hey, i'm pregnant, i'm shipping out." i knew what my contributions were. and i wanted to protect the lives of our soldiers. >> pelley: nada prouty was born into war, growing up amid the conflict in her native lebanon. at age 19, she came to the u.s. to get a degree in accounting. >> prouty: those were good years. >> pelley: and years later, while studying for a masters, one of her teachers suggested she apply to the fbi. prouty had to wait two years while the fbi ran a background inv

my father called me and said that the cia is hiring. i drove to the front gate of the cia. there was no internet in those days. i expected to stay two years. i am interested in teaching. i like english literature. because of friday, trouble -- i met kings and presidents, met to the oval office. they sent into the oval office. i had a great honor. i got to deal with directors, secretary powell, tony blair, tom ridge. i got to brief the congress. too cool. i remember the first party we had, a big party -- a bagel party. gs-9. i kept my jacket on all day and went to the party. i was embarrassed to stand up. i got to meet presidents and prime ministers and hang around the oval office. that was surprising. i look back and i do not know how it happened. i do not know how and i feel blessed. >> do we have any other questions here? phil, on behalf of gw, thank you or a very thoughtful set of remarks. thank you for your service and thank you for joining us today. >> thank you for coming to my nieces. we're going out to georgetown harbor. if you want to pick up the bill, come along.

i decided cia chiefs would be by representatives. caller: i wanted to make a comment on what you said about israel. i just wanted to say, your comment is bias against israel. israel can invade countries and the u.s. just turn their head the other way. guest: when i was mbassador of the united nations, if you look at the record of the general assembly, sometimee there were 40, 50 resolution and waiting to condemn israel for one thing or another. we were trying to introduce some balance into those things. from time to time, palestinians would carry out terrorist acts against israel, for launch rocket attacks from the gaza. it is a two-way street. as i said earlier, this debate will go on until there is meaningful pieceace over there. host: next phone call. caller: good morning. in recent years, much more classified information has found its way onto the pages of "the new york times." why is this information leaked -- guest: you are breaking up, but i think i got the drift of your question, which is why is there so much classified infor

my father called me and said, the cia is hiring. i drove up to the front gate of the cia. there was no internet id. and i expected to say two years. who are these guys? i like to read and i like english literature. and 24 years later, i met kings and presidents, went to the oval office, and i was a ds-nine analysts. i had a really great honor last year. secretary powell, president bush, tony blair, tom ridge -- i got a brief that congress in the well of the congress of the united states. i remember the first party we had when i was a new analyst and i forgot to wear my belt to work that day. gs-9, i kept my jacket on all day and rolled over in a chair from my cubicle because i was so embarrassed to stand. and after 24 years, i got demint -p-- meet presidents and prime ministers and hang around the oval office. i look back and it just seems -- i do not know how it happened. i do not know and i feel blessed. >> any other questions? phil, on behalf of all of us, thank you for a very thoughtful said remarks. thank you for your public service for this country and thank you for

guest: aaron really within the cia. the authority with the cia are i think the president nominates the head of the cia on the recommendation of the dni. generally across the board, greater personnel, greater budget clintons would be useful. -- budget functions would be useful. host: who would recommend to the president the new head of the cia? guest: he has a personnel group in the white house. host: kentucky on the independent line. caller: i want to know why are there is soomuch negativity and -pcorruption in america. would you believe that we have freedom in america?+ if we do, what is the privilege? guest: iidid not know -- in fact, i do not agree with your proposition. i think this is a very free country. i think the proof of the pudding is the incredible number of people around the world who want to come here to live. host: peter on our democrat caller: good morning. i have two quick questions. the fiist concernssautonomy and how this agency operates in independence wittout not influence from any pdministration. s

the cia was burning drugs in the 1970's. you do not do a $1 billion drug- running business and now say that you stopped. host: this is new orleans, louisiana. caller: good morning. i have a comment about the war. we go there, lose our guys over there, then if they will do as they did in vietnam, they brought all the people into the war, then all the people over here, give them homes for $1, and five years of the taxes, and none of them speak english. if the foreigners are brought over or come over on their own, the first should speak our language. we should not have to learn their language. host: looking at some other news, the "new york times" has an article on energy. the nation needs a fundamental overhaul of the energy policies. most expect alternative forms to replace oil as a major source within 25 years. compare that with gold coast residents whom they spoke with in particular. those gulf coast residents whose committees are most affected and whose livelihood have been linked to oil for generations are more likely tha

that does not mean the cia and white house did not screw up. >> there is a larger point here. once the war startedo go badly, i believe that the reporting on the bush presidency by a good number of reporters, partly by bob but reportg by thenew york times" and oer news organizations, the reporting on the bush presidency, which was a highly secretive presidency, was an awful lot of mendacity. a real dislike for the press. it is almost everything we know for about theush psidency is we know from the press. we do not note from congressional hearings. we do not know from anything candid that the bush white house ever put out. we know it fr the press. i think the reporting on the bush presidency after the first six months of the war is a pretty hon. history of washington reporting. >> you mentioned there needs to be an adjusted business model. i am wondering what your thoughts are on what that might be. " how old are you? >> 22. >> i am 67. you figure it out. [laughter] its ur job. [applause] >> seriously. the people who did theoogle and facebook and so forth, it is the new generat

that isn't aystery to the cia. one of the dilemmas i think we have and maybe mr. bowen, i'll ask you to comment on this. the urgent reirements providing security in this case to our cia officers and forward operating basis, which obviously has to be a compelling concern for mr. panetta outweigh considerations about crimil allegations, reckless use of violence by a company because they can get the job done. that internal contradiction means that we waive decency in some respect absent and go back to blackwater despite their crummy record. >> we can't waive core principles of stewardship of the taxpayer dollars. mission accomplishment has to be balanced with the core principles of oversight and execution and country. mission accomplished does not trump those principles. i think though regarding the subcontracting issue, we talked about it today, souch of it is discretionary. what information you can as an oversight body get access to to find out what's going on below that surface so that you can, you and frank lit departments can make better judgments. that calls fo

but by as a yemeni guy talked to him after the reports of a aroundhat the cia wanted to kill him thata large number of people started singing who is this guy that the great america wants to kill and are we sort of fleeing to his strengths in a way by putting him on a pedestal and it's certainly true among those who cover the tourism moment and movements historically they've always rely on the reaction were often the overreaction of the enemy. and it's interesting to see that after being ccused in the pre-9/11 er of being at war with islam, you know, and i am not making ny comment here on whether we should or should not take any paricular step but from the point of view of a young muslim man looking at the world, we now have a pretty big war going on in afghanistan, iraq, basically pakistan and much more limited degree yemen and certainly cert steps and other parts of the muslim world so to do wonder for what degree as donald rumsfeld once asked are we generating more recruits for the global jihad and we are capturing or killing and if you look at the curve of al-awlaki influence he is

reason, earlier this year, he had the distinction of being the first americans a dissent put on the cia official list of approved targets for capture or kill, you know, notably killing. and that raises one final question, which i think we might want to get into in the questions, and that is, to what degree has the united states attention to this guy made him what he is today? if you tall to people who mainly follow the she had to arabic sources, he was sort of that nobody. in the english-speaking world, he was very big. as a yemeni guy i talked to about him said, it was only after the reports starting going around that the cia wanted to kill him that a large number of people started saying, who is this guy that the great america wants to kill? are we sort of playing to his strengths by putting him on a pedestal? it is certainly true that, among those to cover terrorism movement's interest groups, they have always relied on the reaction of the enemy. it is interesting to see that after being accused by any pre- 9/11 era of being at war with his mom -- and i am not making any comments her

. >> a former deputy director of the fbi and the cia offers perspectives on u.s. counterterrorism efforts. live coverage starts at 10:30 a.m. eastern it on c-span. up next on c-span, it is "q&a." after that, david cameron in the british house of commons and in a debate between the candidates in the north carolina democratic senate primary. both chambers of congress are in session this week. of the senate returns tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern for general speeches. votes start at 6:00 p.m. eastern. also, a bill to extend jobless benefits and a bill that creates a $30 billion fund to help small businesses get credit. the house is back on tuesday at 12:30 p.m. eastern and at 2:00 p.m. for legislative business. later in the week, possible consideration of a measure that would set new requirements for campaign advertising and funding from corporations and unions. expect work from a 2010 spending expect work from a 2010 spending

. >> when you were the jaycee cia -- when you were the jccia, for you aware that contractors were complaining that they were making protection payments for safe passage? did that ever come to your attention? what i was never aware of that. >> -- >> i was never aware of that. >> can you tell me how many times the department of defense has gone outside of the gates to ride with some of these convoys going from base to base? >> the representatives that work for the battalion very rarely go outside the fence line in terms of monitoring the operations. they do that through the entrance with visibility that is on board. about 84% of the vehicles operate in and out. >> if they are transporting certain things, we will have military that will accompany those convoys for high- visibility items. >> how often is that? >> i do not know. i would have to give you an answer. it is whenever they are moving heavy equipment in and out of theater. they will normally put a military convoy with them. i do not know exactly how often. >> if you could give back with us, that would be wonderful. >> in the times that y

that does not mean the cia and white house did not screw up. >> there is a larger point here.believe that the reporting on the bush presidency by a good number of reporters, partly by bob but reporting by the "new york times" and other news organizations, the reporting on the bush presidency, which was a highly secretive presidency, was an awful lot of mendacity. a real dislike for the press. it is almost everything we know for about the bush presidency is we know from the press. we do not note from congressional hearings. we do not know from anything candid that the bush white house ever put out. we know it from the press. i think the reporting on the bush presidency after the first six months of the war is a pretty hon. history of washington reporting. >> you mentioned there needs to be an adjusted business model. i am wondering what your thoughts are on what that might be. " how old are you? >> 22. >> i am 67. you figure it out. [laughter] it is your job. [applause] >> seriously. the people who did the google and facebook and so forth, it is the new generation. it is a big

testimony before the congress, homeland security, international relations, foreign relations, from the cia, fbi, time and time again, they have testified that the islamic terrorist financing is coming from countries such as saudi arabia, kuwait, united arab emirates countries. what i do not understand and cannot figure of it is why do not we'd insist that the islamic arab countries send troops in, and we go after terrorism financing. all these countries thaa we go into, somalia, yemen, sudan, these countries have the most to lose because they will be the first countries that will be overthrown. i would appreciate an answer. it is nine years after the attacks of 9/11. guest: thank you. you are very prospect -- perceptive. the financing simply does not make sense. when i visited qatar, dubai, uae -- and i represent hilton head island -- i tell these people that they look like hilton head island on steroids. these people want to live in the 21st century. you are right. usama bin laden's first target was the royal family of saudi arabia. we should expect more from them and work to stop the fin

the cia, blackwater, other givene contractors are this money and they in turn give it to the warlords. you can bet that they are hanging onto some of that money themselv. we are just unbelievably corrupt -- is more than bad. host: what is a different model? how can things be changed in afghanistan? caller: turn around and go to east, or to the west -- come back home, get the troops out. get them out of afghanistan, iraq -- get them out of all the bases we have all over the world. it is the most misguided policy i can imagine. host: bringing it back to this story, the report describes a system in which subcontractors between $1,500 up $15 project to supply guides and secure safe passage through territory they control. let's go to vivian on the democrats' line from memis, tennessee. caller: our government is dealing in illegal things over there. that money they are using in afghanistan to pay this what here to save right people unemployment and jobs, manufacturing jobs people.ing our government needs to come out of afghanistan, like the previous caller said. people are suffering right h

both my parents worked for the cia. and i have several questions. i hear about the training of the afghan military. now, we have been there, 80 years? either we are deliberately not trying to train afghan military or the united states army is pathetically incompetent. and after eight years, we should have had a stand up afghani army of, what, 300,000, 400,000 troops, but we don't. and on the legal side, what does a declaration of war mean? is it a moot legal principle? either you go to war or you don't. host: in "the wall street journal" -- west virginia, janet on the republican line. is it time to leave? please, go ahead. caller: i just don't think obama is qualified to listen to the commanders. host: is it time to leave afghanistan? caller: i don't think so. but i do feel for those boys over there. and i just -- it just worries me that obama is just not qualified to run this country. host: david is on active duty. he is in virginia beach, virginia. please, go ahead. caller: good morning. i don't think we should stay there if we are not going to se

that does not mean the cia and white house did not screw up. >> there is a larger point here.the war started to go badly, i believe that the reporting on the bush presidency by a good number of reporters, partly by bob but reporting by the "new york times" and other news organizations, the reporting on the bush presidency, which was a highly secretive presidency,as an awful lot of mendacity. a real dislike for the press. it is almost everything we know for about the bush presidency is we know from the press. we do not note from congressional hearings. we do not kw from anything candid that the bush white house ever put out. we know it from the press. i think the reporting on the bush presidey after the first six months of the war is a pretty hon. history of washington reporting. >> you mentioned there needs to be an adjusted business model. i am wondering what your thoughts are on what that might be. " how old are you? >> 22. >> i am 67. you figure it out. [laughter] it is your job. [applause] >> seriously. the people who did the google and facebook and so forth, it is the new

if you look at he 9/11 commission report it found before september 11 that the cia was plainly th lead u.s. government agencyconfronting al qaeda. that law enforcemenplayed a, quote, secondaryworld and military and diplomatic efforts were characterizeds episodic. i was involved in nional security both before and after septembe11th as a member of the clinton and the bush admistration andwhat the reonable minds can dffer on the steep hills but that doesn't seem terribly far off the mar to me. ter septemr 11 of coue all of our national security agencies dramaticallyramp up their counterterrorism tivities and ourops deployed to the foreign battlefields and as the intelligence committee expanded its operation the doj and the fbials revolved and we began that the solution with an important egal change that ben actuly referred to in his introduction, and that was tearing down the so-caed fisa war under law enforcement and intelligenceerlargely supportive enterprises and as a result law enforcement was correspondingly limited in its effectiveness as a counterterrorism tool. for those of you wh

in 1992, when i visited moscow as the first head of cia, i raised this with my counterpart about their support for the nuclear reactor in iran. we went back and forth, and finally, they said it was all about the money. it is this balancing act. in russia, they recognize the security threat iran represents, but there are commercial opportunities, which rank the, are not unique to them in europe. >> thank you. i have one final question, and that is among our wrestling with the strategic warheads, while the russians will deploy at least 3800 tactical nukes their warheads, in addition to strategic nuclear warheads, and as a result russians maintain a 10 to one superiority in tactical nuclear weapons. we're outnumbered by two to one in terms of strategic nuclear weapons. you can deploy some of these weapons on submarines. it seems -- in trying to get a handle on how all that is creating stability? i direct this to the secretary of -- how is this creating nuclear stability in a favorable manner for us and our allies? >> it is a concern, obviously. the strategic arms talks have always focused

although the state department officers, usaid, cia and other american agencies will make vital contributions. afghanistan over the next two to three years will simply be too dangerous for most civilian agencies. madam secretary, what is the status of the international civilian surge? it's so essential that we not just rely on the military side. and that's why general mccaffrey's prediction is alarming to me. >> i think i would agree with your premise that the civilian surge is absolutely critical as part of this broader campaign. on the u.s. side, we have more than tripled our civilian personnel and that is likely to increase further as the campaign unfolds. we have developed very cooperative concepts of operation so our civilians are partnered with and protected by military forces as well as their own state department security forces. internationally as we've gone out to allies, we have pressed them not only to increase their troop contributions but also their civilian contributions. and many, many have stepped up, whether it's growing the civilian contributions to their prts, which histori

although the state department officers, usaid, cia and other american agencies will make vital contributionsafghanistan over the next twoo three years will simply be too dangerous for most civilian agencies. madasecretary, what is the status of the international civilian surge? it's so essential that we not just rely on the military side. and that's why general mccaffrey's prediction is alarming to me. >> i think i would agree with your premise that the civilian surge is absolutely critical as part of this broader campaign. on the u.s. side, we have more than tripled our civilian personnel and that is likely to increase further as the campaign unfolds. we have developed very cooperative concepts of operation s our civilians are partnered with and protected by military forces as well as their own state department securit forces. internationally as we've gone out to llies, we have pressed them not only to increase their troop contributions but also their civilian contributions. and many, many have stepped up, whether it's growing the civilian contributions to their prts, which historically hav

in 1992, when i visited moscow as the first head of cia, i raised this with my counterpart about their support for the nuclear reactor in iran. we went back and forth, and finally, they said it was all about the money. it is this balancing act. in russia, they recognize the security threat iran represents, but there are commercial opportunities, which rank the, are not unique to them in europe. >> thank you. i have one final question, and that is among our wrestling with the strategic warheads, while the russians will deploy at least 3800 tactical nukes their warheads, in addition to strategic nuclear warheads, and as a result russians maintain a 10 to one superiority in tactical nuclear weapons. we're outnumbered by two to one in terms of strategic nuclear weapons. you can deploy some of these weapons on submarines. it seems -- in trying to get a handle on ow all that is creating stability? i direct this to the secretary of -- how is this creating nuclear stability in a favorable manner for us and our allies? >> it is a concern, obviously. the strategic arms talks have always focused

. >> former deputy director of the fbi and cia offer perspectives on u.s. counter terrorism efforts. live coverage. >> claudia right is facing jim matthiessen. this is about 20 minutes. >> this is sunday edition with bruce lindsey. >> in the sunday edition, >> i am a democrat. >> a congressman faces a challenger. >> i believe the people come first. >> a conversation with jim matthiessen and clear right in this addition. -- with jim matheson and claudia wright. >> this is not want to be a formal debate, but rather a conversation in which our guests will be able to differentiate their opinions. i have asked them to give a self introduction and i will ask jim matheson he would go first. >> you know me. you know that in my time in office i've always put utah first, and i am proud of the fact that i approach every issue with the notion of solving problems and making progress. i've listened to people in utah and they've helped guide me in how to make progress on issues. so whether it's stopping foreign radioactive waste from coming to utah or whether it's resolvi