in half an hour from now in the meantime the i do want to show discusses a new drug policy that the cia is pushing for in yemen which may see people targeted even if their identity is not shown from washington next here on our. welcome to the little show we'll get the real headlines with none of the mersey who live in washington d.c. now tonight we're going to speak with michael hastings about the new drone policy of the cia is pushing for and get it they want to be able to strike even when they don't know who it is that they're killing then we're going to speak to a pakistani lawyer the represents the families of victims of drone strikes he's trying to come to the u.s. to attend the first international drone conference but the state department won't let him in and an increasing amount of states are trying to fix their budget woes by creating new criminal justice fees are the result here is more people being imprisoned and saddled with that so we have all of that and more for you tonight including those of happy hour but first take a look at the mainstream media has decided to. well it'

my dad was in the cia and worked in the cia for twenty twenty five years central intelligence agency and so we traveled back and forth. my dad retired from the cia nine hundred seventy seven and he wrote his book called deadly to see my twenty five years in the cia and it is all public information like you didn't reveal any secrets. but it is critical of the cia's role in the government basically what my dad says in his book is that the cia is a tool of multinational corporations that it's not and. the cia doesn't gather intelligence it creates propaganda to support american foreign policy. and so what became clear to me is this his life of keeping secrets this was bad and made him unhappy and i think that something changed in music i don't want to live a life where i have to keep secrets and so i i imagine that had something to do with how i chose to come to twenty zero because here everything is open everybody knows my business i do a real sad business what we are doing and when it works is clear and public we're not keeping any secrets from anybody and i think that that makes the

now it's not going to speak with michael hastings about the new drone policy of the cia's pushing for and get it they want to be able to strike even when they don't know who it is that they're killing then we're going to speak to a pakistani lawyer the represents the families of victims of drone strikes he's trying to come to the u.s. to attend the first international drone conference but the state department won't let him in and an increasing amount of states are trying to fix their budget woes by creating new criminal justice fees are the result here is more people being imprisoned and saddled with that you have all of that and more feet and i including those of happy hour but first take a look at the mainstream media has decided to meet. well it's been a long week of scandals and historic moments so the mainstream media has really been all over the place and squeezing every little thing that they can out of stories of colombian prostitutes lavish vegas retreats for government agencies and everything else that's going on out there. he's a guy con an entertainment mogul dick clark as

c cia recruiting session. >> how many people were in there? >> 2230. students. there were to recruiters. >> controversy about cia recruiting practices on college campuses is a decades-old issue. stanford officials tell us that the cia comes to the campus several times per year to talk with students about working for the agency. >> the university's position is that we are the conduit to opportunities and we allow students to make decisions about this particular organization. >> today's job market, that could be an easier sell, students are graduating with record high debt into an employment pool swimming with competition. the agency's own website says the offer job benefits like health insurance and paid time off and even child care. >> i don't have a problem with cia recruiting. we are all well-educated and to make these decisions for ourselves. >> this former cia analyst has been on both sides of the issue. he is proud of is that kids with the agency but he would just like to see more transparency. >> what needs to happen is that people with integrity and a con

this week about this new defense clandestine service that supposed to be working basically with the cia it means that i guess the defense department going to be able to retain more of their employees because it's also going to be thinking refocusing on africa they're going to be focusing on asia you were part of what you called the precursor to this program to tell us what. well defense human service was a consolidation in one thousand nine hundred five of all the service human intelligence programs which related to what we're talking about here if you look at the operation my book i talk a little bit about some of the things we did we have always we do have always had these capabilities in bed within it our job to support military operations something called title ten is the body of law as we support as well as title fifty which are the cia laws regarding collection we kind of said both in both camps that said cia has always had its own objectives relating to what they believe to be policy level collection we are trained in same school we go through the same basic things but again our

there are 30 people add each month, and then that gets rubber -- the cia gets approved by a cia lawyerre allowed to take these shots at -- >> and just so it is clear there's no judicial intervention? >> this is the key, especially with american citizens. >> how many of these drone strikes have there been? >> hundreds. hundreds. i think four times more in the first three years of the presidency than president bush had in eight years. >> because the technology has improved. >> right. and the casualty count a veriries wildly. the pakistanis say some 3,000 militants have been killed but there has been about 135 people under the age of 18. >> and the public supports this? >> the u.s. public? >> yes. >> oh exactly. and i would point out -- if george w. bush was doing this [ inaudible ] would be sending me emails every day saying how horrible it was. >> the hypocrisy you are alluding to has been remarked upon by not surprisingly supporters of president bush. >> right even within the cia, the head cia lawyer who was involved in the interrogation and the torture scandals as come out in a strang

litigation in pakistan and specificity asking questions from the us and cia which is the. nina to agency which is running the drone programs in progress and on and before that i had an official to go to us but after right after . enjoying for last fourteen months and this time i'm trying to reach two people in united states to talk to them and can we what really is happening on the ground because i want you to take stories human stories of civilian drone victims who have been killed there's a huge number of children women and elderly who have been killed in these drone strikes. i would i would say americans have been denied the right to listen to what i have to say on behalf of all these drug addict and they do you think that there is something politically motivated going on here as to why are not being led by or not allowed to speak loudly about also at the first international and around summit that they're going to hold here in washington. certainly i think this is the indicator of the high handedness of cia in the american state department. they're not ready to listen t

laws regarding collection we kind of said both in both camps that said the cia has always had its own objectives relating to what they believe to be policy level collection we are trained in same school we go through the same basic things but again our focus has been different and duty is not what we let me interrupt you for one second to have a firing us out and that sense are you going to you know is this new defense intelligence service going to be accountable to more law is rather than the cia who basically gets to act outside of the law. that's a good question. there is things that we've always been able to do and the d.o.d. using the existing laws i think. is one of those things that to be careful because we think we do have ways of getting things done it's just that you have to look very carefully call congress writes the laws and deal with that duty is always had a responsibility to protect our troops protect the combat interests of the regional commanders that is always been our focus with that said cia has always tried to dominate the battle space because they've always said

bowden comes closer than ever through the knowledge of the cia did run a secret interrogation facilityfor terror suspects play on its territory. with lot of analysis to come this hour nazi. some of the biggest riots in decades swept across spain this week mass rallies back to nationwide general strike as millions walked off the job. to protest against austerity dozens of people were injured in the ensuing clashes and almost sixty arrested by police but the government remained unbolted announcing twenty seven billion euros worth of cuts the very next day one of the toughest budgets introduced in decades which includes tax hikes and a salary freeze for public sector workers and on economists michael ross thinks that ultimately the measures won't work. perfectly ever heard of a politician who was promises came true or became we are latina future i mean up and what i can see is that what has been want to make this government is not only because it is pill it's also impossible when you look at the private sector private sector is totally over debt knoller's bankrupt when you look at the ban

when he came to the cia, he left for robin ben it. this was before all this. pentagon papers and he said to meism out of the cia. i have more experience. anyway, anything you want done, you call. it is significant. he offered before i thought of it. >> the president would refer to him as colson's cia guy. >> yep. i was the one that recommended him. >> this would be a tag for you, which would prove problematic later on. >> that's right. >> the discussion with liddy and hunt was february of 1972. this is when they were trying to get the intelligence plan. gemstone. which i am sure you didn't -- they deputy go into any detail. >> they said they would get counter intelligence operations at the committee, find out what's going to be done. at the convention, we'll prevent disruptions. all sounded legitimate to me. >> they didn't mention the democratic national committee? >> i never heard that. >> it and t, that case was a precursor to watergate. >> sure was. >> what was your role? >> i quarterbacked it. without any question. i was the guy in charge of whatever we di

our time for a quick break we'll want to come back it appears that leaking information about the cia to a journalist will land you in a jail cell while destroying evidence could just get you a book deal and a spare in getting back on the show to discuss the student loan debt crisis in america and alternatives that aren't being talked about. when you force spring overseas my great story birds will come home to roost. when their massive and hungry. empathy gives way to other motions. towards those who live on the current. yesterday we had you about the latest pretrial hearings in the case of bradley manning now the defense argued yesterday at fort meade was that the entire case should be dismissed because of a flawed discovery process in which the prosecution didn't give up a whole lot of information now that information at hand were assessment reports written by the cia the pentagon the state department and possibly even other agencies now those so-called we can leak task force or reports are expected to show the government privately admits that the leaks have not harmed national secu

even brags of the cia's torture program and his cover up saves lives but while he openly brags about his obstruction of justice the agency seems to have no problem with the book which brings us back to this whole inconsistency issue the agency does go after others who publish criticism of its torture program or resources for such material people like john kiriakou people like james risin they are treated as enemies of the state and bradley manning but the cia doesn't take exception to rodriguez's book because it makes obscene defense spending and unaccountable programs look necessary own also helps keep american voters paralyzed with fear whistleblowers on the other hand they do not threaten lives they merely threaten the doctrine of never ending war and the national security state. now talk about student loan debt it's definitely in the news this week that only has president obama on a tour trying to pander to young voters he's also very publicly talking about the need for congress to stop the increase on student loan interest rates that would take effect on july first that actually

that is where we first began developing drones, the cia. many people think i'm part of the cia. i'm not. that is where we developed drones. very interesting, in 1960 they could go mocks three. this is astounding that the still holds the record for speed if you believe that it still holds the record for speed the government tells you it holds the record for speed. 2,300 miles-per-hour, drones in 1962 out in the nevada desert. that is some very serious advanced technology. people often ask me what i think is going on now, what kind of drones' they're coming up with,i can only imagine. i know that to be on the panel with these two interesting authors, you know, all of our ideas kind of meat and merge in this idea of secrets, surveillance. for me to write about really the military and has been nuys, elements of surveillance, it's fascinating that the private sector and the military sector, people see now how they merge with a look at drone stay. of course this goes back, you know, to the 1950's when it all began out there in area 51. i love answering questions on this. >> i wanted t

news interview in two thousand and seven there he spoke out about the cia waterboarding. i see kiriakou would help coordinate captures of i and pakistan but kiriakou didn't condemn the enhanced interrogation techniques i be opposite he said that he thought that waterboarding worked and he said that he was glad that it had been used but he publicly called waterboarding torture he questioned why the cia destroyed interrogation tapes and he wondered aloud why we had to torture to keep america safe he also wrote about that in his book but supposedly this has nothing to do with why the government is going after him you see just this week he was indicted by a federal grand jury in virginia on five counts those five counts include violating the intelligence identities protection act making false statements and violating the espionage act so the justice department is going out of pure curiosity for releasing classified information to journalists that included the identities of a covert cia officer and information on the role of another cia employee in classified activities now th

convention it's torture so why is the us dropping ninety nine of one hundred one cases dealing with cia interrogation techniques or explore. and in the quest for energy independence the us is calling out all the stops to hunt for the next great energy source and i draw it fracturing may hold the key only the e.p.a. approved will tell you about the latest tussle over fracking i know. your fire wall street movement is splitting along ideological lines on one side the so-called die hard occupiers on the other people who believe the left is trying to co-opt the protests so is there a battle for the soul of the occupy movement. it's tuesday april seventeenth four pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wahl and you're watching artsy. well we began today on the issue of using torture terror suspects waterboarding and stress positions and just two techniques used by the u.s. against those accused of having ties to terrorism now a secret memo has been leaked which brands them war crimes and shows the bush administration was warned against their use and also sheds light on the birth of the bush admin

he had been the cia director before.-span: and brent scowcroft is a national security advisor. >> guest: you can say hi and he was a baby. i didn't agree to enter these i probably took five days to write those and track them so i started interviewing people and almost as an aftermath i said i will interview my mother. and then it changed because she brought the human element. she brought the underneath. what do we to do, she's keeping him to a high standard. she is referred to the cia as catholics and action just like the fbi especially in the early years because the of the moral compass and they certainly operate from a moral point of view or of least you hope they do. religion, morality is part of the mind set and is mine, too. i went to georgetown, so i was. and they made you think. we were taken as boys to the march on washington, the tent city and the priest would say what you think? is this legal, should they be here without a permit? is there a greater cause at work here? what do you think? the best education i ev

the cia wants to launch drone strikes in yemen based on suspicious behavior without really knowing the identity of the target so could this be considered a terror tactic on to read your response from yours and on you tube he said drone attacks are a terrorist act they demolish buildings kill people indiscriminately and are operated in secret pretty much the same thing as a terrorist attack do you want to keep that comment or delete it keep it yeah like keep it. there's a thing that you need to have a hundred percent evidence of attacks do you want to keep that or delete it. delete that we're trying to keep the terrorists out so it's not it's not the same as a terrorist strike what if it drones were used based only on suspicious behavior i'm sure there are people. competent enough to. trust them enough to make some decision i don't know read your sponsor i'm gone on you tube he told us the only people terrorized by drones are terrorists the u.s. uses drones to stop terrorism not participate in it so what do you think you drones only stop terrorism or can you be a part of the problem wel

convention it's torture so why is the us dropping ninety nine of one hundred one cases dealing with cia interrogation techniques all explore. and in the class for energy independence the us calling out all the stops to hunt for the next great energy source and i draw it fracturing may hold the key if only the e.p.a. approved will tell you about the latest tussle over fracking. and it is one of the most prestigious awards of journalists in the land and honored of the people who bring us the daily news and now the pulitzer prize is making history awarding online media outlets for the first time and so is this yet another sign that newspapers are going the way of the dinosaurs. it's tuesday april seventeenth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz of all and you're watching artsy. well we begin today on the issue of using torture on terror suspects waterboarding and stress positions just two of the techniques used by the u.s. against those accused of having ties to terrorism now a secret memo has been leaked which brands them war crimes and shows that the bush administration was warned aga

the cia is saying to the president, we're taking out the right targets.s is something they need to assert their reasoning and see the people you're killing, what do you have against them? so far, none of the identities are known. tariq is the latest example of how randomly people are being targeted. there is a big number of civilians. march 17, 2011, another attack where the retired -- retaliated on a higher scale. many members of our retreat council were killed, trying to mediate a conflict between two some trials last year in north waziristan. all of them were taken out in a drone strike. pakistani president and prime minister, they all retaliated and condemned the attack. if we were to believe president obama, and means whenever we see is wrong and we just have to believe people who are remote control a killing people in pakistan even have the ample knowledge of their -- so the can take out these targets. >> medea benjamin, in your book you go into some of the behind- the-scenes action occurring among the soldiers and the cia operatives who are launchi

our time for a quick break i want to come back it appears that leaking information about the cia to a journalist will land you in a jail cell while destroying evidence could just get you a book deal and an experience getting back on the show to discuss the student loan debt crisis in america and alternatives that aren't being talked about. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so silly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything. you know the real headline. the problem with the mainstream media today is that. disconnected from the viewers and what actually matters. that's why young people just don't watch t.v. if they want news they go online and read it but we're trying to take those stories that people actually care about and transfer them back in. state run in english speaking russian channel it's kind of like. russia today has an extremely confrontational stance when it comes to us. yesterday we had you about the latest pretrial hearings in the case of bradley manning now the defense argued

last june obama's us justice department dropped in ninety nine out of one hundred one cases against cia interrogators over the use of torture i'm afraid that the current ministration wants to keep those options open they don't want to label these techniques just as crime here torture because that would prohibit them from using them by weaving their legal definition however slight we worry if we can so be option replied miss. and there is what is frightening here scholars attorneys and human rights experts around the world have called for the prosecution of senior bush administration officials who designed in order to work for tactics however critics say the unspoken agreement within countries proclaiming to pioneer democracy is to never turn on europe to. the west we you know we make great play. but there is a kind of. elite party but they will not press charges and they will not take legal action against crimes of previous administrations through the use of torture rendition and secret prisons america's moral position all around the world as are undoubtedly shifted and while the u.s. w

last thursday the indictment against alleged cia whistle blower john kiriakou was finally unsealed and it contains some rather juicy kid bits specifically e-mails between kiriakou and journalist who allegedly communicated with a former cia agent were featured prominently in the indictment why the government believe that had the right to snoop through these e-mails as part of their probe seems kind of we've had marcy wheeler on the show to discuss the case the only criminal investigation involving the bush administration's torture problem ironically and so here is what she had to say about the investigation. this all started because these detainee lawyers had identified the people who had tortured their clients. so the question is not easy to locate for scott shane to report about to start tina's who was involved in chaos and torture what they were really after was is it ok for lawyers to know what happened to their clients when they were in u.s. custody and the government is basically saying no it's not ok they went back and tried to figure out how these detainee lawyers found out and

about three times the size of the cia. in terms of person ale el, possibly about three times the size also. it's hard to say. somewhere 30, 40,000 people, something like that. but it is an extremely expensive agency because it has so much hardware and satellites and people all over the world. in the article, the wired magazine article, i show all of this new building that nsa has been going on in the last ten years. new listening posts in georgia, in texas, in colorado, in hawaii, putting new satellites up. putting new dishes and listening posts in england. so, it's -- their headquarters are spending another 2 to $3 billion on expanding its headquarters. then you've got the new super computer facilities down in tennessee, so it's an enormous building program and i agree with the caller that there's far too much military spending. it's -- eisenhower warned of the industrial complex, now it's intelligence security and military industrial complex that is gobbling up so much money when we could be spending for thingsp more use

when it failed to do so because the memo himself made clear the lengths to which the cia had gone to avoid violating the law, the attorney general announced that he was reopening investigations of cia personnel involved in interrogations, cases that had been closed after diligent investigations by career department of justice prosecutor who is had prepared detailed memos describing why they declined to proceed in each case. stunningly the attorney general testified he had not bothered to read the moment owes before reopening the cases. in november of 2009 the attorney general announced he was terminating the military commission trial of the sheik and others at guantanamo bay. he announced we will bring him to new york which will show the world we're dedicated to upholding the law and we're not afraid. apparently the military commission act was not among the laws that needed upholding at that time. when congress held acceded to t a press conference that was remarkable for his insistence that he was right all along but going along with ignorant legislators. the president of the islamic

the president said could we get the cia guy to go out? i say go call him.aid it is probably too late. his response was surely he has the thing sealed off. i told the president that. we can waiting all night are waiting for the next three hours for reports. it came either directly to me or to me in my office. as it turned out, he had been stalking nixon as well. there was no political gain or loss. . his office and he was sitting there making gestures. as trying to read his lips. in the 75 or six conversations. >> this is what i cannot understand about the watergate theory. i see no evidence that he sat with the and said "what was hunt doing?" >> go back to the illfated conversation about brookings. he says i want somebody in y here w ho can do what the fb u i used to do. i thought "you cannot do that." i regret i didn't. i always thought he knew what was going on. i was sure he had approved it. >> after the election, i am surprise nixon did not have a conversation with you about hunt. >> we did have one in january. he knew i was involved. the question was a

because the government doesn't like to talk about because the cia doesn't even acknowledge that a drone program exists except of course when it's an official who gives off the record information about it to the journalist will say nice things about it who they just partied side by side with this past weekend now there were a lot of speakers including some of our guests clive stafford smith who was on the show on friday as akbar the pakistani attorney to represent victims of drone strikes who finally was given a visa and jeremy scahill one of the few reporters that's actually gone to yemen gone to somalia to see what the situation is like from the ground of our shadow wars and here's just a little bit of what he had to say. the real. world. says . it's up there with health care president obama's what it's already. so. this is an already this is a vast majority to draw world war i know this is. oh yeah this is a government that's killed us citizens via drone strike without any due process that little detail that a press corps that a government watchdog would be outraged and can fleetly di

he then was made -- in terms of american politics, was made the cia director. you have not a civilian but a military man being made cia director and he went into the shadows. no profile the general david petraeus. he goes up and testify as now and then but it is remarkable how he has dropped out of the news. what you have increasingly behind the scenes what in the 60s they called in the shadows. we see american war going into the shadows. general david petraeus was part of that. he is a man who relies on iraq and afghanistan on special operations forces, hunter killer teams and drones. the cia specializes in drones and hunter killer teams and so on and so forth and clearly coordinating with the military. to add to that, one thing, this is an area you are deeply into. when we talk about osama bin laden and the elite seal 16 we think of some little group that the special operations forces, 60,000. a secret army like the cia and developing in the military itself. >> you have different tiers of operators. the vanilla special operations guys. other than seal team 6.

there were bills, there were hearings whether this should happen, when the cia was created. there was a bill before congress, they debated it. it was created in law. nsa was never created in law. it was created by a top secret memorandum signed by harry truman. congress wasn't allowed to know about it. even its name was supposed to be secret for years until it began leaking out. nsa was created in a secret method unlike any other agency. since then it has lived in this unique world where very few people are allowed to ask questions about it. the director hardly ever speaks in public before congress so the agency has little accountability. an act watered down the original law which was foreign intelligence surveillance act created in 1978. and that put this court, it was a secret court, a foreign intelligence surveillance court, between the nsa and the public. so if nsa wanted to eavesdrop on a citizen it had to go to the court. that's what the bush administration bypassed and broke the law by doing that. after that the law was watered down to -- water down the effectiveness

very much apparel is the relationship the cia used to have but the soviet union. it took a long time for any of us in the civil set here to learn about the virus which was fascinating to me that it has happened to them and there is a delay and rumors that it was americana coming aside and russia and not kinds of things. no one in the government said anything until we stoutly and the former cia director, michael hayden went on 60 minutes and gave an interview about it. if anyone is interested in knowing that didn't happen, just go ahead and look at the interview because there is no way the former or the cia, and he was current when that happened, would tell you anything about what did happen. in fact i believe he was at the opposite because who he was speaking to was not une, butter and. >> i think we have to wrap it up now. thank you. >> thank you so much. hot mark [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> to her is left to go out live coverage of the los angeles festival of books you buy from the campus of umc in the beautiful california. quite a lovely day here. l

about two years ago the current cia director was sitting about where you were sitting telling us that we did understand there's a difference between a civil war and what is a counterterrorism mass skoourt interest that the u.s. was trying to be support i have of in yemen. i don't know that a lot has changed in terms of u.s. staying out of the civil war versus the u.s. continuing to pursue a counterterrorism strategy in yemen. the story this morning about the drone strikes whether it's true or not, let's assume it's a story, and reading it that the cia is looking at changing the strategy and how they conduct drone strikes and where they go, causes me to question whether or not, you know, is the cia tail wagging the d.o.d. dog, or the state department dog on this issue? i'll put it out to you. we to have that answer. >> thank you. first of all, with regards to the story in the paper, i think those involved classified operations and i guess i would urge you to try to get, you know, what's behind that based on that kind of classified briefing. >> right. >> with regards to the larger issue

, go away. >> raising attention to the fact people should go to work for the cia.hey should be aware of their history. >> reporter: he camped out in the rain storm to make his point. >> soaken. we were fairly wet. >> reporter: protesters invited ray mcgovernor to speak. telling them about both the good and the bad. >> be aware. that it may be that you are encouraged to do things that violate your conscious. >> reporter: cia representatives declined comment. ktvu channel 2 news. >>> gas prices hit a platue here in california. today's average was $4.25 for regular gallon. it is up 8 cents from a year ago. today was $4.35 in san francisco. $4.24 in san jose. the price of natural gas is at its lower level in a deck decade. today's future's price was under $2 for a thousand cubic feet. down 59% from last summer. it could lead to lower electricity costs. >>> the government has set up a website to help students figure out how much they could owe after they graduate from college. they are testing the site. it contains information from 7500 schools. that includes graduation

it was the president's highest priority for the cia. then he made one of the most courageous decisions i've seen the president make in my lifetime and i would argue in a long time. he authorized a very high-risk mission to capture or kill osama bin laden even though -- and i was one of six people who for four months or so were the only one who is knew about the possibility of his location -- even though at the end of the day there was no better, as you know, general, than a 50/50 chance bin laden was present in the compound. but despite that reservation, and i might add the rezer vagss of almost every one of his -- the only full-throated support for moving when we did was from leon panetta, the director of cia, myself included. president obama said afterwards when he made the decision, this was a very difficult decision. it entailed enormous risk to the guys i sent there, but ultimately i had so much confidence in the capacity of our guys to carry out the mission that i felt the risks were outweighed by the potential benefit to us of fi

but much higher than even the cia which i thought was a big deal. the cia denies 0.7% denial rate the same year on that same issue. so why is the fec all of a sudden have more secrets than the cia when you're dealing with foia requests? >> i'm not familiar with those numbers and i haven't heard them before. would be happy to look at them together with you and try to understand the trends. certainly we recognize our obligations under foia and we have a team of professionals who handle foia requests and understand their obligations to comply and meet the obligations under law. >> again, the reason i was taken back is precisely because of the relationship i had with you, my staff has had and we have freedom of information. it seems that outside of me or us or congress and even with some members of congress it seems that there may be a difference. again, if you look at for example, those are denied for not reasonably described, if you look at again 16.4% for the fec, the cia, 0.7%. the nsa 0.5%. the homeland security, 0.2%, there seems to be a problem.

>> why did you leave the cia?because he had ordered the videotaping of the initial harsh interrogations. actually, they initially started the videotaping of these interrogations to prove that they weren't abusing these prisoners and they then had a record of these interrogations. he ordered them destroyed. and then there was an investigation of that. he was completely cleared in the investigation. >> now he has a book. >> now he has a book. >> and more on "60 minutes." the full report sunday night. >> thanks. a musical treasure is now coming out after 40 years. louis armstrong's last known trumpet performance and we will listen it to along with jazz great wynton marsalis. stay with us. you're watching "cbs this morning." [ male announcer ] imagine facing the day with less chronic osteoarthritis pain. imagine living your life with less chronic low back pain. imagine you, with less pain. cymbalta can help. cymbalta is fda-approved to manage chronic musculoskeletal pain. one non-narcotic pill a day, every day, can he