why aren't women advancing the cia? why aren't the women, you know, alumni of the office being given same opportunities that the man answers know studies will be conducted. and the first study that allen dulles conducted probably at the behest his sister, eleanor dulles, as well as some of the women who were legacies of the west, who did make the decision to stay on. it was, called the petticoat panel. like a bit belittling title you know is hard to imagine i think it might even be because there were early spies were said to carry letters and messages in their petticoats and and so it is possible that there was a sort of historical resonance it that it still was very belittling and the only way in which the female panel was even permitted to the study about why aren't when they being advanced was they were told well you know this is all top secret classified information. so after report itself it has to be very closely held and closely held us like agency for it. nobody is going to get to read, okay, except like the peo

and there's a there's a statue of her there's a statue of her on cia at cia headquarters. now.tatue? yes. are any more questions? how? oh. oh, i got one more minute, grace. oh, my goodness. which question should i ask? so will quickly books were the nazis were afraid of books, right? they saw them as that's why they were burning them and, confiscating them. but they didn't really understand the power of them right. can you talk sense? right. the book festival i thought would be really great to talk about the role books played in world war two. oh, my goodness. i mean, how much time do you have a minute there's look sherman kent, the history professor i mentioned earlier, the fellow who could throw daggers better than a civil sicilian. he believed that scholars can find out 90% of what an intelligence agency to know. you just have to do the reading not even secret sources. you just have to do reading. and he proved this after the war. he got a bunch of yale professors to spend the summer reading public documents and finding out a bunch of military that caused a big scandal becau

but then you're also looking at the cia and fbi. andrea, we were talking about this earlier, about the potential, we are told by two sources, that kash patel is under consideration to be the director of either the cia or the fbi. of course, kash patel has really rose to prominence as a hard core maga trump loyalist for his criticisms of the department of justice and the intel agencies which he now seeks to potentially run. and this is where, for donald trump, we watched him over the course of his first administration repeatedly call into consider this idea of a deep state, of career federal workers working in these capacities, and you, yet -- upon leaving the white house, he criticized those individuals for not fulfilling the obligations of his first administration. we have heard from him a commitment to ensure that this go-around, from not only him but jd vance, the career civil workers are no longer in their positions, that would allow them to effectively block their priorities of the department of justice or the cia or the fbi, a

so she must not be forgotten. >> there's a statue of her on cia-- at cia headquarters of harriet tubman. are there any more questions? >> i like that. one more minute, great. which question should i ask? >> so real quickly, books were -- the nazis were afraid of books, they saw them-- that's why they were burning them, confiscating them and they didn't understand the power of them, right? and at the book festival, i thought it would be great to talk about the role that books played in world war ii. >> my goodness, how much time do you have? >> a minute. [laughter] >> there's books, sherman kent, the history professor i mentioned early, the gentleman that could throw daggers better, and he believes that scholars can find out # 0 90% of what intelligence needed to know. and he proved that, and had some professors look it up, and congress thought yale was doing this for the russians and the cia tried to confiscate the entire yale library, but he proved he was right. books were put to a lot of uses during the war. among them, you know, uses in spy craft and some things were given away becau

the cia is valuable, but we don't want them making our foreign policy. thank you. host: and on the line for independence -- independents, bobby. caller: thank you for taking my call. excuse me. i think it has been lost in the shuffle, and it is about the linda's brothers in california. folks that are not aware, they are the folks that cold-heartedly shot there folks in -- shot their mother and father in cold blood. they are considering changing their sentencing because of a netflix special and because they were communal, prisoners. the bottom line is, they shot their parents in cold blood. number one, it was premeditated. number two, i realize there was a problem with the dad, sex fiend, and they decided to kill both their mother and their father. when they came in they shot them both, and then they went back out again. and at that moment in time they could have rationalized and said, look what we just did. because their mother was still alive. no. they reloaded, went back in, and shot their mother. i would just say to them, one question. was your mother's eyes, th

including john radcliffe of the cia . i would hope that my former boss that this mandate he got from the public on election day was about attacking issues voters care about. secure the border and be tough on iran and china . this is the tough retribution people worried about and often comes with donald trump . it is a distraction from more important priorities that as commander-in-chief he should have. this panel can speak to it better than i can do we have a military recruiting crisis and we don't have enough people raising their hand to serve. to further politicize the military with retribution for officers who have served distinguished lee for decades, it doesn't even more so. it is exactly what folks that have spoken up did not want to see. i asked that the president focus on the task at hand and get it done. >> there are over 200 three and four star generals and officers at the instant hartman. if trump takes up this order, are you concerned about the precedent it will set? >> we haven't seen the order and the campai

do you expect trump to webinars the cia? i mean, what is to stop them?, there is not a lot to stop them. because our intelligence agencies are given a lot of latitude, legally, to work were presidents and under presidents. and in the last demonstration he did, in some ways, when richard cannell was in there or john radcliffe, they were often times cherry picking intelligence to try to help trump or help the trump campaign. but it could get very much worse this time. there is a narrative that they created, the sense that somehow these institutions work against the president. and it is clearly false. the institutions, the fbi, cia, the intelligence community in general work for the president of the united states and for american citizens to collect intelligence abroad. so i really hope that they take it seriously and they put serious people in there. because they are very powerful institutions, and they can create a lot of problems for us if they are used for personal or partisan gain. >> okay, let's get trump reports that he will appoint maga staff , he w

late tonight trump selecting john ratcliffe as cia director. a trump ally who democrats argued politicized his role. trump has stayed out of the public eye as he makes selections from a mar-a-lago war room, watching videos of his television appearances to see how effectively they can deliver the message. republican south dakota governor kristi noem to serve as his director of homeland security. she would over see people fema and the secret service. >> president trump wants to start by deporting the most dangerous first, the criminals, murderers, rapists threatening safety in our community. >> a big day here tomorrow at the white house when president-elect trump is expected to visit. >> that is right. president biden invited him to the oval office. melania trump is not expected to attend. lester. >> there is breaking news about u.s. planes over haiti. late word that three u.s. flights have been hit by gunfire there, and now the faa ordered airlines not to fly through the haitian capital. here is tom costello. >> reporter: american airlines is th

an artist work at the cia.they were looking for a counterfeiter, forger and and he was in they hired him, then became chief of disguise. >> it's all about magic and illusion. >> and it works. the president of the united states, he made the final decision. i got a message from washington that said the president has approved your mission. good luck. we were ready to roll knock on the door. >> i opened the door and there's two guys standing there in trench coats. >> tony mendez and ed johnson. people whose expertise is to get in and out of dangerous places and they said, okay, we've got some plans to get you out of here. >> and they told us three possible cover stories one, that we were engineers, petroleum engineers. >> that's a field where you need to know something. and it would be easy for somebody to realize that we didn't two we were teachers. >> the international school was closed. so being teachers looking for jobs didn't make sense. >> these were unlikely to hold up to scrutiny and they came upon a really

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we managed to unravel a very complex and sophisticated cover up conducted by the cia, the fbi, the state department, the department of justice and the irs to protect joe biden, his son, hunter, and his brother jim biden, and effectively to cover up their sort of international influence peddling schemes. how much money would you estimate you write about in this book? look, it's not a lot. we're talking. about 20 to $30 million, which is not a lot of money really to sell out your country and compromise the president of the united states. i see the bidens as really small time grifters. joe biden had been, you know, getting benefits from his donors in delaware for decades since he became the senator for delaware at the age of 29. and he just internationalized it when he was vice president. and president obama. and he's administration turned a blind eye and these institute illusions, these national security institutions that are supposed to keep us safe. they also turned a blind eye, in fact, greenlit a lot of these schemes that hunter biden was conducting in ukraine, russia, china, kazakhsta

and there's a there's a statue of her there's a statue of her on cia at cia headquarters. now.tatue? yes. are any more questions? how? oh. oh, i got one more minute, grace. oh, my goodness. which question should i ask? so will quickly books were the nazis were afraid of books, right? they saw them as that's why they were burning them and, confiscating them. but they didn't really understand the power of them right. can you talk sense? right. the book festival i thought would be really great to talk about the role books played in world war two. oh, my goodness. i mean, how much time do you have a minute there's look sherman kent, the history professor i mentioned earlier, the fellow who could throw daggers better than a civil sicilian. he believed that scholars can find out 90% of what an intelligence agency to know. you just have to do the reading not even secret sources. you just have to do reading. and he proved this after the war. he got a bunch of yale professors to spend the summer reading public documents and finding out a bunch of military that caused a big scandal becau

joining me is former cia director john brennan. great to see you, director brennan.e trying to get to the bottom of it, helping viewers understand what these jobs actually are and let me start with tulsi gabbard because you served as cia director for four years and what would having her in the role of director of national intelligence mean for the intelligence apparatus of the u.s. >> there's uncertainty. as you pointed out, she's been apologist for vladimir putin and bashar al assad and it's called into question whether or not she has a good understanding of global politics and the u.s.' role there and she does not have experience in the national intelligence and it's someone who sits on top of the 18 agencies and needs to orchestrate these agencies so that they collaborate, so that they coordinate, so that they're able to pursue the national security priorities in an effective fashion. so they need to have understanding of the human intelligence, the technical signals, intelience ligence and has none of that. she doesn't have the executive leadership experience of

the cia declining to comment on the story. stuart: when a cia or government official reveals information to the enemy isn't that treason? >> the question is how did this happen? espionage can happen in almost any administration, the hope is a lot of the things that distracted the government, intel agencies, the same stuff, the work stuff, lack of focus, having other priorities than the job the cia is intended to do, probably not all, not the nature of the beast, you will donate enough the agency get on the right track and restores the faith of the american people in it. stuart: you see the outside of the hyatt regency hotel where the president-elect is meeting with house republicans. shortly he will be leaving that hotel and going to the white house for his meeting with president biden. that should take place quickly. we will watch this all morning. what about africa? safari? hot air balloon ride? swim with elephants? wait, can we afford a safari? great question. like everything, it takes a little planning. or, put the money t

and just in tonight, trump's pick to head the cia.nd the big meeting tomorrow, president-elect trump and president biden at the white house. >>> in new york city tonight, the judge in president-elect trump's hush money conviction delaying the immunity ruling in that case. trump's attorneys now arguing his felony conviction should be tossed out because of the supreme court's decision on presidential immunity. so what happens now? >>> overseas tonight, the alarming scene in amsterdam. protesters setting off explosives inside a tram. authorities believe some targeting jews. some of the attackers yelling anti-semitic slurs. police bracing for more violent clashes. >>> here in the u.s. tonight, the father and husband missing who was presumed dead. tonight, the stunning twist. after searching for 54 days, authorities now believe he may have faked his own death. and where they believe he is now. >>> tonight, a massachusetts national guard member who pleaded guilty to leaking highly classified military documents is now sentenced. >>> and toni

i think is pretty bombshell, prettyhi astonishing and in some waysrr terrifying, the extent tt the ciahe fbi and the state department, for instance, went to the keep the truth from the american people particularly before the 2020 election, to keep the truth about joe biden and and, you know, effectively they rigged the election because they know that there are polls which show that enough biden voters would have changed their voteei if they'd known the truth about joe biden's involvement in his family's influence-peddling schemes. maybe rigged is too strong a word, but certainly they meddled or interfered with the election in denying the american people the ability to do the proper due diligence on one of their candidates for president. so all i've done is lay out the evidence. it figure that people can draw their own conclusions. to me, the conclusions are pretty obvious, but, you know, you can probably drive and the democrats have tried really hard to drive a truck through some of it. many in particular,ub the failue of the republicans mt. house to be able to pinpoint -- in the house

we've got them for d.o.d., cia, everywhere.hat they never will do is we will follow the facts and the law and go to courts of law and correct these justices and lawyers who have been prosecuting these cases based on politics and actually issuing them as lawfare. we will go out and find the conspirators not just in government but in the media. yes, we're going to come after the people in the media who lied about american citizens, who helped joe biden rig presidential elections. we're going to come after you. whether it's criminally or civilly, we'll figure that out. but yeah, we're putting you all on notice. >> they're going to go get the people who lied about the results of the election? we hope he means in 2020. and incited people to commit crimes at the u.s. capitol. we hope he does that. anyone that lied about the results of the 2020 election and inspired their own people to carry out crimes and chant "hang mike pence." those people should meet the fate that kash patel describes there in that interview. now, as concerning a

trump tapped for the director of the cia. also tonight american airlines, now the third u.s.-basedaryier to confirm one of the planes was struck by gunfire over haiti, and the move by the faa banning u.s. flights there. the massive explosion in louisville, multiple injuries and shelter in place order for one mile. the deadly wildfires raging in the northeast. 35 million under fire alerts. the fires erupting in new york city and some train service suspended. the federal judge blocking louisiana's law requiring the ten commandments to be displayed in public school classrooms. the stunning case of a father disappearing while kayaking, did he face his own death, and the artist turning trash into treasure. >> this is "nbc nightly news" with lester holt. >>> good evening and welcome. it was just a week ago voters chose to send donald trump back to the white house. the former/next president remaining largely out of public view the answers tonight may be found in the team he is quickly assembling. the president-elect choosing john ratcliffe to become the next cia director, one of sev

that perspective comes from a couple of places at the cia, one is we are a foreign intelligence agencyo that's necessarily where we are focused, we don't have the authority to remit to look at the defender space, we don't have the explicit mandate others have. but there's also a lot of opportunity there. there's a sense that when you get outside of well-defined networks or large banks, and you look at like the water sector that was spoken of earlier, there is a sense of futility and universal cyber uplift that will be able to defend against a state cyber threat. we have to meet those actors where they are at. the cia role in that in helping to understand, interrupt and interfere with cyber actors is in the understand piece. we have a job to do and collecting information about plans and intentions, the capabilities of cyber actors, and we put that in perspective and feeding that information to the rest of the partner ecosystem which includes the folks on the stage here today as well as industrial and foreign partners. ltg hartman: thanks for having me here today, i understand we are the

that will be one — who might lead the cia. that will be one to _ who might lead the cia.ia. that will be one to watch. thanks so much forjoining us from new york. let's ta ke let's take you back to paris. it will be interesting to see what comes out of this meeting with emmanuel macron who is meeting the nato secretary general mark rutte. we are expecting statements from both of these men. it is the first time they have met since the former dutch prime minister took up this key role that he now has nato. and particularly we will be looking at their views on the latest on ukraine including ongoing military support. we are keeping a cross that for you from paris. we are keeping a cross that for you from paris. around the world and across the uk. welcome back. israel has until the end of today to boost aid supplies into gaza or risk having some us military assistance cut off. washington has told israel that it's not doing enough last month, in a strongly worded letter, secretary of state anthony blinken gave israel 30 days to comply. the us wanted 350 trucks a day going into

, which oversees the cia.he settled here. the other anytime that i'm hearing this morning as well is the next batch of nominations is going to be attorney general and fbi director. i'm hearing kash patel. this has not been confirmed. the president has not made a final decision on that. but he wants to clean house there he want to clean house there next. what's going on with rubio? is there something sphblong i go is he still on snack they said absolutely on track. it just hasn't been named yet. and there is a thought. >> lawrence: in waves. >> brian: maybe there are some people within the trump team that don't want him. >> ainsley: fetterman said he would be great pick. >> brian: ainsley, he couldn't be a better pick. >> steve: exactly. it is curious he hasn't named him yet. the big thing then if rubio becomes secretary of state, ron desantis would have to essentially appoint somebody to fill his seat. i was talking to a smart person in florida politics yesterday and conventional wisdom and we were talking abo

plus john ratcliffe, he will put it in to corruption at this cia. those are promises made, and they will keep them, same for appointing tough guy tom homan to be border czar because, closing the border and deporting criminals and terrorists is absolute key in trump campaign, and same for kristi noem another outsider, taking over dhs. as newt gingrich has written so far, most of mr. trump's picks are newcomers, that includes susie wiles. who engineered probably t greatest comeback in political history, newcomers are good, yes, they are loyalists, of course, they are, they have to be. mr. trump has a clear agenda on border, on economic growth, on law and order, restoring america first, foreign policy, he is appointing people who will agree with him. other newcomers are elon musk and vivek ramaswamy. who will totally shake up and then chop down a budget and recession -- receregulatory structure. another them how success will bring country together. unite country expi end the divisiveness. a huge theme from his speech, and speaking of big pictures, the

so we went and showed it to the director of the cia. he liked it. and he said, we're going to take you to the white house? and i said, hold. whoa, whoa. i can't walk into the white house pretending to be a man. i mean, this looks great. yes, but but secret service, give 30 seconds with me and they're going to arrest me. so i said, let's let's just make me another woman. and that's what we ended up doing and we did take it to the white house, took it to white house when george h.w. bush was the president. i wore the mask, his office. the names that's judge webster on the far right. the beige coat is sununu. the next one is bob gates. the next one is brant scowcroft. and, of course, george h.w. i talked to the president folder of pictures of him in disguise because we had done stuff with him. he had been the director of the cia. i said, but oh, wait till you see what we've got now. and he's looking around. chair like for a bag. i said, i'm wearing it. so i'm just to just take it off and show it to you. and he said, don't take it off yet. and he got up

he believed he was seriously misled by the cia and the joint chiefs.e said it was really a kennedy took it very hard. in 1962, we had the cuban missile crisis. now all of these years later, everybody believes it was the most dangerous moment of the cold war. soviet nuclear missiles in cuba. which the u.s. could not tolerate. they could reach the mainland of the u.s. there was a time in which kennedy led a group of these senior people in the pentagon and the cia. a group of wise men, former secretaries of state and so on. all of them basically were moving kennedy toward a military solution of getting rid of those missiles. kennedy ultimately opted for a blockade. he set up a naval blockade of cuba which the soviets would have had to go through if they were really going to pick on the u.s. in the end, they blinked and pulled back. what was not known at that time was that in return for this to u.s. was secretly removing jupiter missiles from turkey. that only came out years later. kennedy essentially overruled the pentagon, the cia, and the wiseman. mcnam

and just in tonight, trump's pick to head the cia. here's rachel scott. >> reporter: tonight, president-elect donald trump expected to name one of his staunchest campaign supporters -- >> are you ready? -- >> reporter: kristi noem to lead the massive department of homeland skurtd. a true trump loyalist. noem a fixture on the campaign trail. >> yes, they love you. you're the one who protects them. >> reporter: trump once considered gnome as a potential running mate, but her star dimmed after writing in her memoir that she had shot and killed the family dog. as dhs secretary, the former congresswoman will oversee fema, the secret service, and the coast guard. but her key focus will be on immigration. i.c.e., and the border patrol. noem will be tasked with implementing the president's elect's signature campaign promise of mass deportations. >> president trump has already indicated that he wants to start by making sure that we're deporting the most dangerous first. those criminals, murderers, rapists, that are threatening safety in our co

that perspective comes from a couple of places at cia. we're a foreign intelligence agency.y where we're focused. we don't have the authorities of the remit to look at the defenders' space, we don't have the explicit defenders mandate that others in the government have. also, we think there's a lot of opportunity there, and there's a sense that when you get outside of, like, well-defended duty networks and clear defense contractors or large banks and you look at, like, the distribu water sector, there's a sense of futility in a universal cyber uplift that is going to be able to defend against a state cyber threat, and so we have to go and meet those actors where they're at. cia's role in that, in helping to understand, interrupt and interfere with the cyber actors is really in the understand piece. right? we have a job to do in collecting information about the plans and intentions, the capabilities of foreign cyber actors. we have a job to do analytically about putting that into perspective, and then feeding that information to the rest of the partner ecosystem, which includ

cia, i have some questions. you know.ervice but i will have some important questions. >> jack smith is going to resign, we are told, before donald trump can fire him. we can expect to see the report of jack smith. what is your reaction to that being the outcome? >> you know. i wish, i think for the american people, it would have been good to litigate this. so this cloud is not overhanging. i wish this could have been moved quicker but i'm not surprised at all. in light of the immunity decision that jack smith will finish his job and get out of dodge. >> we know there is a new ambassador chosen for israel subject to confirmation. that is mike huckabee who has said he is in favor of annexation of the west bank. and has notable views on that. and steve witkoff. a big partner and donor of donald trump so be envoy to the middle east. >> mr. witkoff and i don't know. mike huckabee and i worked closely together when we were both heads of the national governor association. i have known him a long time. i don't know how you get th

i mean, we have got ratcliffe at the cia. what do all these picks have in common if you could give one line and what they all have in common! >> proven results, proven results. these are people shown ready to hit the ground running and they will not be on-the-job training. they know what they are doing and they are loyalists, america first patriots. >> laura: alex, there was scuttlebutt online with kristi noem having allowed a lot of afghan refugees or urged them to come into the dhs. since she did that, she should be the head of dhs. what do you make of that concern? >> l >> i feel like she is someone who is sufficiently icy and cold in the sense that she will get stuff done in order to get ahead the agenda she is tasked with josie has the eye of the tiger and wants to be on the national stage. in that role, a role likely assigned in somebody to stand up to the media and not take any interference and the flak she will get from people on the left. she is a good fit for that. >> laura: it will be fascinating to see how this pl

then the former cia head, mike _ that.e running for defence secretary. all of— running for defence secretary. all of this _ running for defence secretary. all of this is still to be announced. a lot of people those — announced. a lot of people those jobs. announced. a lot of people those jobs— announced. a lot of people those jobs-— announced. a lot of people those “obs. ., �* , those jobs. and we haven't seen donald trump — those jobs. and we haven't seen donald trump for _ those jobs. and we haven't seen donald trump for a _ those jobs. and we haven't seen donald trump for a couple - those jobs. and we haven't seen donald trump for a couple of. donald trump for a couple of days now. any sign when he is likely to appear? i guess there is a lot going on behind closed doors. i is a lot going on behind closed doors. ~ , is a lot going on behind closed doors. ~' , ,., . doors. i think there is so much auoin on doors. i think there is so much going on behind _ doors. i think there is so much going on behind closed - doors. i t

joining me this hour is former cia director john brennan and chris murphy from the foreign relations committee. >>> also, the latest on the trump transition including reaction to donald trump's more controversial picks as the president-elect confirms on truth social he will use the military for promised mass deportation of potentially 20,000 undocumented immigrants. >>> good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. with just nine weeks until he leaves office, president biden has authorized ukraine to use long range missiles as targets deeper inside russia. ukraine has been pleading for this approval for months. the president decided now according to two u.s. officials because russia has deployed 10,000 north korean troops to try to retake the kursk region from ukraine. president biden was at the g20 summit in brazil. >> everyone around this table should as well. >> over the weekend russia launched its largest attack in months, targeting the energy infrastructure and killing at least 11 civilians including children. the kremlin now accusing white house of adding fuel to the f

tell me about the new cia director. you were there when john radcliffe was there. he's now in charge at langley, what is that mean for our enemies and what does that mean for us getting answers about a lot of coverups over the last few decades? >> he was director of national intelligence when i was there. smart on his game, it can stand up to our enemies. the cia i think will be very good on his watch as we see that transfer to someone who i think is much more in line with the trump agenda. one thing that's interesting, what i know about john radcliffe, what i know about mike waltz, what i know about... these are people who are traditional conservatives because there's been a real competition in the movement for where are we, are we more populous or traditional on the world stage, these are individuals who know peace through strength which is donald trump's huge vision that he implement had no new wars on his watch. america first is not america alone. these are people who understand it the importance of alliances, standing up to our enemies. >>> and that is the tru

i mean, we got ratcliffe at the cia.hat do all these picks have in command if you could give one line on what they all have in common? >> proven results. proven results. people shown hit the ground running, not going to be on the job training. know what they are doing. loyalists, america first patriots. >> laura: alex, some scuttlebutt online about kristi noem having allowed in a lot of afghan refugees or urged them to come into the dhs since she did that should she be the head of the dhs? what do you make of that concern? >> i feel like she is someone who is sufficiently icy and cold in the sense that she will get stuff done in order to get ahead of the agenda she is tasked with. eye of the tiger. wants to be in the national stage. in that role these this is a really tough job. the one she is likely to get assigned. someone who has to be able to stand up to the media and not take any of the interference, any of the flack that she is going to get from people on the left. so i think she is a good fit for that. nasa sinati

basically what i found was the cia and nsa and the state department in the state department while they wanted to use dissidents as a thorn ine te side of t the opponent had a vey sober estimation of what it couldid accomplish and that is pretty low. they didn't believe that they should invest significantly in dissidents and they d were highy attuned to the damage that could be done to the dissidents with any kind of connection to the cia were discovered in the kgb was constantly asserting everybody from scioscia nixon were marionettes of the intelligenceug services. it looked long and hard for evidence of that and didn't find it so youou are right to put yor fingerha on the issue is somethg i didn't get to in the book in part because there was no smoking gun. i'm conscious of our time and let me ask you a couple of questions before turning things over to other folks. let's talk about soboroff. this is a person who is literally a prize to the leadership of this country and had access tos the perks of the soviet elite and there's a memorable passage inoo the book when you say quote went

remember when the cia encouraged foreign spy agencies to investigate those tied to the trump campaignore the 2016 election? >> the story is imagine, we were informed by foreign intelligence about this. our sources tell us a different story which is that this was initiated by the u.s. government from within the u.s. government's intelligence community including the cia at least 26 days and associates were improperly without predication placed under surveillance an election year 2016. >> hard to believe that happened. the other trump administration members in the state or his nominees for cia director of national intelligence and turning. rest by expected. fbi is cash patel. here's what one of trump's enemies had to say about this potential back. >> no part of the mission is safe with cash patel in a position of leadership in the fbi and certainly not deputy director's job. there's a lot of something cash patel could do. >> bryan llenas is live tonight with the latest. >> president elect trump has filled all of his cabinet secretary positions and quick timing, we are talking less than t

kennedy essentially overruled the pentagon, the cia, and the wiseman.believes that that demonstrated something in kennedy which would have led him and no matter what to go ahead and withdraw. his view of the vietnam war is this is their war. they have to fight it. we can advise and support them but it is their war and their country. in the end, when he was killed, the decision was never really finally made to go ahead and withdraw advisors, which was going to take place in '64 and '65. the general view of historians was events were going so poorly that he would not have a choice. mcnamara's view, which we did. clearly after we worked him over , which was kennedy said the price of getting out is lower than the price of staying in and ending up in another big war in asia. i don't think it is worth it. the u.s. can endure whatever people say about leaving. i think the hope was it would be a negotiated settlement. that is what mcnamara favored all along. it never happened. there were negotiations but they were really for the american defeat. by the time 197

>>less talk about the cia. president-elect trump named john ratcliffe as his pick for cia director.ctor of national intelligence in trump's first administration. the first attempt to install him in 2019 failed after he removed himself from consideration following he appeared to misrepresent his careers a federal prosecutor in texas. donald trump also selected south dakota governor kristi noem to lead the department of homeland security, praising her statement for being very strong on border security. noem has no significant experience with homeland security issues, but has supported trump's hardline immigration policies. she also defended fellow republican governors in their efforts to crack down on migrants in their state. let's go back to cia and then get to governor noem in a second. john ratcliffe, a guy very familiar to donald trump, worked with him in the first administration, a former republican congressman, what's the sense on the hill of what kind of cia director he would be? >> he's one of the picks by virtue of having been there in the first term will probably sail throug