gives extraordinarily and insightful talks to the group uh and i'm talking about retired cia counter intelligence officer phil geraldi joining us from virginia. phil, good morning, how are you? i'm fine, dan. thank you, thank you for having me on. thanks so much for joining us, it's been a while, it's been too long, but things are deteriorating in the middle east, uh, we talked about on yesterday's show how biden was asked if the bombing was... working in yemen, he said no, but we're going to keep doing it, so there you go with that, um, the u.s. is getting more and more involved in the israel gaza war uh, we saw today that the uk is getting more involved, they're sending uh surveillance drones over in increasingly, seem to be the only two countries that have taste for it, france is not that interested in dealing in the red sea, but nevertheless we seem to be drawn more and more into it, so i wanted to just talk a little bit more about this, a couple of articles we noticed one was uh appeared in the libertarian institute uh website, but essentially they're all they're all similar, which is this s

phil mud is a former cia counter terrorism official and the author of several books on intelligence and the cia, phil, great to see you. >> thanks. >> so this second strike appears to be aimed at a radar facility that was being used to target ships in the red sea. do we have a sense yet of how much these attacks have actually diminished houthi capabilities? >> i think you used the right word and that is about diminish. this is about deterrence, sending a signals to the houthis that says don't do this again. the goal is not elimination because that's not possible. these sites, a lots of technology a lot of stuff that the houthis might have to get from iran, so it's not easy to replace but it is replaceable, so again, the point is the americans and others, the allies are telling the houthis, cut this out. they're not telling them with these strikes that there's an invasion imminent or that we're trying to eliminate the houthis, that's not on the table. >> the houthis are pledge ago strong and effective response to the strikes. what are you expecting the houthis might do? >> this is a bit

foreign minister, he has both jobs, was discussing with the cia chief, bill burns, their egyptian counter part and head of their intelligence in paris this weekend, and importantly with david barnia, head of the israeli spy agency, intelligence agency, and there is a unified proposal. they have agreed combining proposals that had come from egypt and qatar, combining these all, and they're being presented as a unified position by these four, you know, major entities and war countries to hamas right now as we speak on the egyptian side of the border outside of gaza. now, what hamas will do, hamas has been demanding immediate cease fire, a permanent cease fire before anything else can be discussed. with that change? we don't know. we also know that the prime minister's office in israel has said we didn't agree to anything. let's put it this way. that's the israeli government posture right now. the israeli government is a combination of a big coalition, but this is the leader of their spy agency who has been the chief negotiator with the u.s. bill burns, with the egyptians and the qatar can is for what to present to hamas, with

who gives extraordinarily insightful talks to the group uh, and i'm talking about retired cia counter intelligence officer, phil geraldi, joining us from virginia, phil, good morning, how are you? i'm fine, dan, thank you, thank you for having me on, thanks so much for joining us, it's been a while, it's been too long, but you know, things are deteriorating in the middle east, uh, we talked about on yesterday's show how...