this is my cia wall. a lot of medals, a lot of coins are distributed among everyone there. the most important thing about break,ll is this entitled "geronimo." it is a brick that was brought back to me by those who conducted the operation that went after osama bin laden. it is pretty special. it is probably the only thing left of that compound, which has been torn down. wall dedicated to the congress. a lot of work i did in the congress. work.of it reflects ocean that says monterey bay national marine sanctuary. it was a bill that when i was in congress i was able to get establish the monterey bay national marine sanctuary, the largest sanctuary in all of the system. it protects the coastline from san simeon to san francisco. i was very proud in being able to protect our great coastline. in every position i have had, i have been able to get something done that i thought health theove -- helped improve lives of people. that is what i want. what i want people to know from their experience at the panetta institute is that public service is not just another job. it is the -- th

this is my cia wall. a lot of metals. a lot of coins that are distributed among everyone there.ost importante thing about this wall is this brick here, which is entitled "geronimo." broughtbrick that was back to me from pakistan by those who conducted the operation who went after osama bin ladin. >> we spoke with secretary of defense leon panetta about the leon panetta institute for public policy at uc california monterey bay. panetta: the institute is an institute my wife and i started. it has been a most 18 years. it happened when we came back from service in washington when i was still chief of staff to president clinton. i came back to my home area here. i was teaching some classes and got concerned that i just didn't see a lot of inspiration in young people to get involved in public service. that concerned me. so my wife and i decided that we would establish the panetta institute with a mission of trying to inspire young people to lives of public service. the reason why we want young people to be inspired to get involved in public services because it's critical to our democ

this is my cia wall.. , the most important thing about this wall is this brick, which is entitled "geronimo." it is a brick that was brought back to me by those who conducted the operation that went after osama bin laden. announcer: we spoke with the former secretary of defense leon panetta about the leon panetta attitute for public policy the california state university in monterey bay. sec. panetta: it was an institute that my wife and i found it. it has been almost 18 years since we establish the institute. it happened when we came back

. >> joining us now ambassador james woolsey, former director of the cia and in new york the "wall streetournal's" bret stephens. bret, let me start with you. you say one of our big problems is that we call isis the islamic state when we should be calling it the islamic caliphate. what difference does that make? >> it's fundamental and it's one of these cases in which the words we use captures or limits our ability to think through a problem a state is a political entity that has a border. you can debate where it has. it has borders. when you speak of isis. we are speaking of a state in a political region. a caliphate makes claims. makes moral claims on muslims throughout the world. now obviously only a small minority of muslims think that this self-declared caliphate has a claim on them. but it means it's geographical expanse is basically universal. it's basically worldwide. that's one of the reasons we are seeing essentially self actualized isis groups popping up not only in europe, north africa, my gearia, afghanistan, pakistan and, of course, now most infamously in san bernadino, cali

joining us now to discuss what's going on our counterterrorism analyst phil mudd, former cia official. also "the wall street journal" columnist david ignatius covered the intelligence community national security for decades. guys, thanks very much for coming in. in this interview that the president gave to npr, david, he took a jab at the news media for all this coverage that we're giving to isis. listen to this. >> if you've been watching television for the last month, all you've been seeing, all you've been hearing about is these guys with masks or black flags who are potentially coming to get you. and so i understand why people are concerned about it. look, the media is pursuing ratings. this is a legitimate news story. i think that, you know, it's up to the media to make a determination how they want to cover things. >> do you think his criticism is fair? >> i think his criticism misses the point. he's president of the united states, it's his job to communicate to the public of course we're going to cover the story of isis and terrorism. the public is frightened and our job to give people news wh

david: judy, one thing we learned very well after 9/11, the wall that separated the fbi from the cia, we began to nibble down the at law. a lot of libertarians had problems with that you have the information services talking to each other to try -- have we lost some of that in the past couple years? >> i think we still have it on paper but i think the sense of urgency about this is simply not there. that is the problem. you also have by the way, three very junior consular officers doing background checks. she not only passed unwith you, she passed three. david: i know, that's scary. >> when we see number of red flags missed here, you have to say it is not one program, not one thing. a combination of from lack of sense of vulnerability. david: bill, the one thing that it says for sure is that those assurances that we were getting from the administration pushing refugee plan we'll vet every single refugee. there is no terrorist connections. things slip buy. they slip by in the case of this woman and will slip by in case of refugees, right? >> you're absolutely right. to think refugees c

they've taken down the wall between law enforcement and intelligence. they've combined the ciahe national counterterrorism center. there's greater entire change -- interchange there better coordination, the patriot act, better tools in place so there's no question we're in a much better place prior to 9/11 and also the terrorists have advanced as well with the use of the internet to recruit, and now we find ourselves in the year 2015 where people don't have to leave our borders to become radicalized and commit terrorist acts in the united states. it's a whole new set of challenges. >> this lone-wolf style, as we used to call it, we start talking about this in literally the weeks after the attacks of 9/11. and so many people like yourself concerned was somebody just going to go out there, somebody we never heard of, shoot it up and we'll all be paralyzed with fear. well, took a long time but we're there. and are we getting any better at figuring out what is happening and how to stop it? >> somehow -- have been aware of this lone-wolf 0 threat for wild a while and the small cell

cia and the nsa was constrained in records it could collect. so we created a new apparatus, new legal authority so you wouldn't have those walls between different agencies that would prevent us from being able to stop these plots in advance. senator rubio is right. should there be another 9/11-style attack there would be hell to pay for anyone who put up walls or made intelligence collection more difficult. >> go ahead. >> just to play the devil's advoca advocate, we are involved in a political process. he's trying to win a set of primaries. the fact is there are republicans who are concerned about privacy. >> we hear from them every day. >> sure. >> ted cruz is trying to assemble a strategy that appealed to those people. the rand paul voters. the problem is he's got to pay the piper if he gets caught off base running a strategy that conflicts with positions he took in the past. i think that's the problem he's running into. trying to bend reality into his political strategy. >> if cruz won the nomination he and hillary would have similar positions on this. if rubio won, christie or bush they would have a contrast on this. there was an exchange,

cia. and i had the honor to put my hand on the wall of stars of people who i knew personally who were killednation. the other day when i hear this terminology, these phrases of, we will get rid of muslims, that impacts the defense of this nation. we are defending. i have intelligence officers in the field who are now looking with askins of, do you believe that man's rhetoric? we cannot allow that to endanger our nation. we certainly can't allow it to endanger our children and my peers. >> a final thought on this. >> trump's words and those that are like him are translating into action against muslims, you know, firebombing of mosques, shooting that woman in florida, throwing rocks at the house of a president of an islamic organization in plano, texas, girls being harassed and kicked on a bus stop right here in brooklyn. i mean, this is not just words. they're actions against innocent people and we can't have that in this country. >> thank you, linda. still to come, why the 13th amendment did not entirely end slavery in america. up next, a little bit of history being made today in the world a

wall? by the end of this hour i will be seen as a terrorist sympathizer, tool, self-hating ju and apology for american imperil liz m, orient lest, socialest, cia agent and worse so here goes nothing. ♪ ♪ ♪ i took a walk through this beautiful world ♪ ♪ felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪ ♪ felt something good in this beautiful world ♪ , i felt the rain getting colder. ♪ ♪ >>> i was raised without religion, one side catholic, one side jewish. i've never been in a synagogue, i can't believe in a higher power but that doesn't make me any less jewish. these guys don't seem to think so, either. >> jewish? >> yeah. >> [speaking foreign language]. >> you a righty? >> right, yes. [speaking foreign language]. [speaking foreign language] >> so now you bar mitzvah. mazel tov. >> mazel tov. thank you, gentlemen. >> i've never felt so much like i'm masquerading as something i'm not. i'm instinctively hostile to any kind of devotion. certainty is my enemy. you know, i'm all about doubt. questioning oneself and the nature of reality constantly. when they grabbed hold of me and in a totally nonjudgmental way essentially god's happy to have you here, here you

wall? by the end of this hour, i'll be seen by many as a terrorist sympathizer, a zionist tool, a self-hating jew, an apologist for american imperialism, an orientalist, socialist, fascist, cia agent, and worse. so here goes nothing. ♪ ♪ i took a walk through this beautiful world ♪ ♪ felt the cool rain on my shoulder ♪ ♪ found something good in this beautiful world ♪ ♪ i felt the rain getting colder ♪ ♪ sha la la la la la la ♪ sha la la la la la ♪ sha la la la la la la ♪ ♪ >> i was raised without religion. one side of the family long ago catholic, i think. the other side, jewish. i've never been in a synagogue. i don't believe in a higher power. but that doesn't make me any less jewish, i don't think. these guys sandbagging me at the wailing wall, they don't seem to think so either. >> you jewish? >> only half. >> half jewish? >> yes. >> you writer? >> i'm a writer, yes. [ speaking hebrew ] >> so now you bar mitzvah. mazel tov. >> mazel tov. thank you, gentlemen. >> i've never felt so much like i'm masquerading as something i'm not. i'm instinctively hostile to any kind of devotion. certainty is my enemy. you know, i'm all about doubt. questioning oneself and the nature of r

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