docusign is another one implied move is close to 11%, we are not actually in that one ciena, a move of close to 9% higher or lower implied by the end of next week and then we've got on the retail side dick's, and ulta, these two names are implying 8% and 7% respectively, we don't own dick's, we do own ulta and that is a holly index name as well i should mention. this is always something you should pay attention to. if you're in these names, be prepared for that. ulta has had quite a good move recently that may be an area of vulnerability. >> what jumped out at you, brian? crowdstrike is interesting, seeing what zscaler did on the back of its earnings. >> it certainly is, and cross check's been a name that we've been pondering whether to get into that or not when you look at its valuation, it's hard to tell when you look at it in terms of what it does for you in terms of cybersecurity and the growth in the cloud space and how it plays into that it seems intriguing as a buyer. this thing is, the stock has been beaten down so much it's lagged behind a lot of the tech and growth names even

ciena, we're looking at close to 9% lower end of next week, and on the retail side, dick's and ulta we don't own dick's, do own ulta that's a holly index if you're in these names be prepared for that. ulta had quite a good move recently, maybe an area of vulnerability. >> what jumped out to you, brian? crowd strike interesting seeing what z did. >> crowd strike, we have been pondering if you want to get into thator not. when you look at its valuation it's hard to tell. but when you look at what it does in terms of cybersecurity and growth and cloud space and how it plays into that, seems intriguing as a pier the stock has been beaten down so much it's lagged behind a lot of the growth tech names even though it's reached a turning point, seems like it's going higher when you look at moves mike mentioned, they're enormous on the options side when you look at the last five earnings, these options premiums are getting up to levels pricing in that movement in earnings, cr crowdstrike being one of them. might give you an opportunity to sell premium earnings at least in the back months becaus