and that cigar it showed that jason young owned a humidor and once made a purchase at a cigar store.le evidence before you that jason young is not guilty. then it was over again. >> reporter: and time for another jury to kid whether jason young would go to jail or walk out of court a free man. >> coming up -- the verdict. ♪ ♪ >> for more than five years, michelle young's family and friend had been waiting for answers. who killed their pretty pregnant michelle? many thought they knew. >> it was him. you know i didn't know all the evidence. i didn't know half the things i know now. but i felt that way. >> one jury failed to decide. and now attorneys were making their final arguments to a second jury. >> be mad at him. hate him if you want to. but when you look at the physical defense in the case it does not match up. it does not match up to jason having killed his wife and unborn son. >> 30 blows? that's not from a stranger. that is a mad, mad domestic abuser. >> reporter: soon that jury was behind closed doors. in the wake county superior court. after two days they were back. with a v

john: cigars. everybody -- everybody -- i love having a cigar. time, i played golf with my doctor. i finish a round and pull out a cigar. he looks at me and says, being your physician, i must advise you against it. i say, i only smoke after i play golf, or getting a drink with some friends. he says, does it help your golfing? i say, not really, no. he said, ok, fine. emily: now that you have been doing this blackberry thing for almost a year, what would you give your own chances for success? john: if you are talking about being able to create value, i think i can do that. emily: 100%? john: i would say better than 80/20. how is that? i am comfortable where the company is today with how we manage our technology, business, margins, distribution channels, all the new product coming out, the strategy that gets into communicating in a secure manner. all that stuff over time. i think there is enough runway here for us. and we scale our expenses to a level that allows us to stay back, invest, and make money. i am comfortable with generating more value.

. >> cigars. do you like cuban cigars? >> i love cuban cigars. professor suri: you would never import one. >> of course not. professor suri: cigars. tobacco. cuba is tobacco. and sugar country. both tobacco and sugar are labor-intensive crops. they are heavily labor-intensive crops but different kinds of , labor. you have economic divisions within cuba between the sugar growers which have more afro-cuban labor, and the tobacco growers who have less labor, both of which have heavy american investment and are under spanish political authority. by the 1870's and you have more 80's, american money coming in as americans are buying these plantations, building casinos and play areas until the end of the batista. cuba is a playground. it is a las vegas for the united states. my grandparents went to cuba to hang out. it is amazing people would do this. this is an area that is bringing together a lot of different things with american money coming in and spanish authority in place. mixed populations. there is organized activism for cuban independence, amon

as they moved in with an acquaintance, a jewish lady, the wife of the owner of that cigar factory for which i had worked and where my father had subsequently worked for a little bit in the office when he could no longer have his own business she had an old house somewhere in another part of the town, and they were ordered to move to what was really above a stable -- what had been a stable. it was not then anymore. just one room. of course, during kristallnacht we were to find out that some of the -- some of my schoolmates, one in particular, had become the leader of this gang of put limbs, who had invaded my parents' house and lined them up against the wall and proceeded to smash all their furniture and everything they could lay their hands on -- the leader of this gang of hoodlums. they took my father with them that night, and he had to spend some time in the local jail. what was at least a few days later, probably, because of his age but it was by far the better part of what happened in kristallnacht because most men were simply sent to concentration camps. what i was going to say a

which was a tobacco factory where they actually made cigars. and i found some sort of a job until the time that i, in fact, left germany. but it was becoming more and more evident that jews should leave if anybody at all would have them, and not very many countries would have them. it wasn't quite that easy, but especially young people. it was suggested for young people to leave because there was obviously no future for them in jerm any. and so we too, came to that conclusion that i, and since we had some relatives in the states. that seemed to be the natural place to go. i was fortunate, and now in retrospect, i know that must have saved my life. my sister who was older than i, was in nurse training in nerm germany, but she also decided, of course, that it was time to leave, and someone vouched for her, and so she came here a year ahead of me and had she not been here, i would not have gotten out, because she was able to go7v#p#ter people and ask them for the necessary papers that one needed in those days an affidavit of support. and so she di

the ordinance would ban the selling of cigarettes and cigars and e-cigarettes 1,000 foot of a schoolme mom-and-pop shop owners worry this could put them out of business so the city council decided to delay the vote to make sure they consider everyone it could impact. >> they look to us and we work so hard it is not like we have -- i have to support my children. if i am not in business where do i go? >> we are not rudd to pass it yet, we have a certain segment of the community that is has their we at stake. they are business people. >> reason behind the ordinance is to protect children from being exposed to tobacco advertising. if it passes, the you it law would go into effect january of next year. >> scammers may have breached the starbuck accounts and drained different cashed balls and san francisco has the most savvy computer users in the nation. now to the money report. >> morning high day on wall street and even the retail sales were disappointing. still, people holding on to their wallets in april. scammers a hacked starbucks gift cars and drained the account from a consumer blo

family and neighbors throwing him a big birthday bash complete with cigars burgers and cake. care of his lawn goes to church and indulges in the occasional whiskey. all right. happy birthday. >>> how would you celebrate your birthday if you make it to 109? john will be happy to stay up until 10. april will have a big glass of wine and a trip to the casino. and marilyn will go to the what? can't tell. she's going go to a concert. there sitit is. >> islamic state terrorists claiming credit for the shooting in texas and promising more attacks. it's the first time the group has tried to take responsibility for a strike here in the united states. but did isis really have anything at all to do with this? we will hear what sources are telling us. >>> plus reconsidering retirement. more older people saying they don't have enough saved to retire and pledging to stay on the job after turning 65 and beyond. we will look at the four steps you can take right now to better manage your money. and why the

there's chewing tobacco and cigar and now we have e-cigarettes it's direct parallel to the liquor industry have scotch, and you have sherry. they all have liquor in them and it's against the law to sale to under aged kids. the same issue goes with tobacco. it illegal. it doesn't matter. i'm having a hard time with the rationalization from the appellant where he went to a tobacco distributor and bought an e-cigarette that was there was a confusion of any kind. obviously i don't support this appeal. >> just a little bit of history, some of the many discussions that occurred here and they haven't occurred for a long time now was the correlation of the degree of penalty. liquor, the first offense, you can pay a fine. most of the tobacco sellers who have been brought appeals here have no problem paying a fine. versus having their license suspended for any period of time. >> notification of that license suspension to be posted publicly. >> motion. >> i'll make it. moved to deny the appeal on the basis that the department imposed a proper penalty for the violation. >> thank you. >> there's a moti

but for too many in tampa, guilty pleasures go far beyond hand rolled cigars. as in other big cities, drug abuse has taken its toll here. it leads addicts to commit far more serious crimes. often resulting in extended stays at tampa's hillsborough county jail. >> one behind the other. single file line. hug the wall. >> colonel jim previtera is in charge of all operations and the nearly 3,000 inmates housed in the county's two jail facilities. >> i feel pretty safe in telling you if you went into any given pod here and you got every inmate to honestly answer the question of how substance abuse impacted their incarceration, i think that you'd find the number is staggering. probably close to seven out of ten inmates would tell you that either alcohol, prescription drugs or other controlled substances, they used them on a regular basis or is a direct contributor to their current situation. >> the cycle of committing crime to buy drugs has caught up with chad white. he's been a heroin addict for 17 years and has spent the last two months here. like most other jail i

invasion, multiple assassinations, including one involving an exploding cigar.s-founded broadcaster set up with a purpose of undermining the government. recently, a secret social media programme, designed to permit protests in the country. it was masterminded not by the c.i.a. but u.s. a.i.d. which is meant to deliver humanitarian aid, drawing sharp criticism from congress. >> were you aware of the programme in cuba? >> no, absolutely not, if i had been, i would have stopped it. and said in heaven's name what are you thinking. >> text messages are sent to young people. they were expecting the country's youth to rebel against the government. it was hoped what happened in libya and syria would be repeated here. new technology, facebook and twitter were used to ferment those. with an historic announcement, a diplomatic breakthrough, the iconic image of the handshake, the story ark is moved. from the cold war to the political thaw, and changing scenario, wh old bin ris defrosting,ability from a claysial speed. >> so there's a change going on. it will take time. it w

but one the things i want to mention i took a photo of one plaque that was recently installed on the cigar factory it has it's process eased consciousness as design but for information i mean f it captures our attendance for someone walking by that's the whole purpose and so at some point we may want to agendize or look at you know maybe vice chair having more of a template or ideas because it was the right size you could read it three or four sentences so those are my thoughts thank you for that information. >> commissioners just to quickly respond we appreciate your comments and we've heard our comments prior about the desire for a pot program and just wanted to update you and let you know we're going telegraph hill still working on a plaque program for a template to provide property owners and we hope to bring that to you soon definitely with this within this year ideally this summer for a design you'll approve and help to fascinate the vendor and permitting process for the property owners for all landmark buildings. >> i want to make a suggestion. >> commissioners if i may as a worthy

well, andy and i-- can i have a cigar?

does in fact define tobacco products and listed in the long list along with cigarettes, pipe tobacco, cigar, it describes what an electronic cigarette is also permitted from being sold. the reason i bring these up are the fact that electronic cigarettes are different than traditional cigarette, electronic cigarette, this is an example of one electronic cigarette. this is in fact the electronic cigarette at issue that was sold to the minor the way i illustrate it if you notice, this is the actual smoking device, charging device, it does not contain anything in this package whatsoever that is consumable. this right here is called the e-juice or vaping liquid and that is a separate item that would have to be purchased. separate item that would have to be purchased and inserted into the device. the reason i bring this up is to illustrate that there's a bit of a lack of clarity in the mailers given out to the tobacco retailers in the city and county of san francisco and specifically 19n of the san francisco health code is the language that defines electronic cigarettes. that text was never in th

finally miguel jimenez golfer is a man that likes cigars and whiskey.ope the golfer likes beer as well. 8th home at the open espanza. get it close that's the plan. scratch that plan. jimenez gets a hole in one. second this season. he wins 12 indications of beer. that's 288 bottles. i, too would moon walk to that ! >> 288 bottles. >> that's a chichi rodriguez move. >> there you go. >> some of the region's top athletes were honored at a banquet in penns landing and rick williams and cecily tynan were on hand to emcee this event columbus boulevard. tonight a chance to pay tribute to members of the international student athlete academy which uses sports to help students learn good decision-making and right decisions in athletics and in life. that's exactly right. "jimmy kimmel live" next on channel 6 followed by "nightline". jimmy's guest paul jimati and science bone fullfelder. for "action news" i'm jim gardner, good night, have a great weekend. "action news" continues at >> dickey: from hollywood it's “jimmy kimmel live”! tonight, paul giamatti “science b

one of the things they did at this particular home as a fundraiser was carve furniture out of cigar boxes. one day, i was taking some of our board members on a tour, and they were admiring this and commented that they used to have dollhouse furniture just like this as a child. than their mother took it away from them because she was saying they were going to break it. as they were looking at it and admiring the furniture, start reading the label and see who it was donated i, it was their parents. this was the dollhouse furniture that was taken away from them as a this was their dollhouse furniture. it was opened in 1896 as a confederate museum. chosen to be here because of the people that come to this particular area. appomattox is one of the top draws for civil war historians or people who are just interested in civil war history. so we wanted to give them another experience out here where we could bring more of our collection out and bring that collection to appomattox. i have been it with the museum for 15 years. four years as the director. and loved the job totally. it has been absolu

>> police say it was the disposal of smoking materials, they say the lit cigarette or cigar thrown near a pile of trash made that building go up very quickly. >> and that thing was long gone before the fire companies got here. >> it was more police fire and ems than they'd ever seen. >> i saw the smoke, fire engines coming up. excuse me, and police and everything. they had the road blocked off. i couldn't get up there. >> the fire started when smoking materials were discarded near trash and recycle bins. the plastic bins dry brush and trash caught fire fast and officials say a fuel tank also near the deck where the group gathered exploded. the two men managed to rescue two juveniles. but the three women, 52-year-old sally rimmel and her sister were trapped. a family member said the women were unable to escape through the same area the men crawled through. police say the women died before firefighters arrived. >> reporter: and the west caln township manager told me the fire department got on scene about three minutes a of the call came in. the first responding fire company honeybrook fro

"captain peterson flicked the ashes from his cigar. he had just finished breakfast. the captain expected a foggy day and began to study his charts. he wanted to acquaint himself with the course to michigan city. it is in indiana not a usual , destination for the eastland. peterson had just passed ericsson who was hurrying to the his breakfast in the mess room. they had a full day in front of them. the busy summer season was half over. it was a saturday. and the eastland sat at the dock near the clark street bridge not their usual one on the chicago river. they were about to board 2500 western electric workers on holiday. they would leave promptly at 7:30 on a two hour cruise to their picnic grounds 40 miles away in michigan city. the eastland needed to leave on time. after michigan city, had to get up to st. joseph's, another michigan town, to pick up another load of passengers and return to chicago. then back to michigan city to ferry the western electric picnickers back to chicago. then another two-round trip. some 400 miles of nearly back-to-back trips in the next

cigars pipes or e-cigarettes.l still be allowed on beach if you're within a designated area. >>> for the first time in nearly two decades d.c.'s funk parade will march up u street tomorrow. the city is not allowed an event to shut down u street for the past 17 years but tomorrow night from 5:00 until 7:00 p.m. people will be allowed to dance and create their own music on that street. there are no floats or cars in the funk parade just people making their own music and moving with the beat. >> sounds like fun, and they shouldn't need to wear those coats and scarves and all that gear. >> we can put them away. not saying we're done with the cool weather just yet. >> why not? >> because i said that before. >> i've said that before. >> the kind of winter it's been but you can put them away for at least a while. i do think you won't need them for at least the next week up to ten days because we have a fantastic weather pattern moving our way. right now a very cool night across our area. 59 in d.c. the winds calm. we hav

one of the things they did at this particular home as a fundraiser was carve furniture out of cigar boxes was taking some of our board members on a tour, and they were admiring this and commented that they used to have dollhouse furniture just like this as a child. but then their mother took it away from them because she was saying they were going to break it. as they were looking at it and admiring the furniture, start reading the label and see who it was donated by, it was their parents. this was thereir dollhouse furniture that was taken away from them as a child, now appearing in a museum.

one of the things they did in this home as a fund-raiser was to carve doll house furniture out of cigar boxes. one day i was taking some of our former board members on a tour through here, two women, and they were admiring this and they commented how they used to have doll house furniture just like this that they used to play with as a child but then their mother took it away from them because she was saying they were going to break it they were being too rough with them. as they are looking and admiring the furniture and reading the label, and see who it was donated by, it was their parent. this was their doll house furniture that had been taken away from them as a child that is now appearing in a museum. the museum has undergonna number of changes since it was first opened in 1896 as the confederate museum. this museum was the next phase of being built out here in appotomax chosen to be here because of the people that come to this particular area. appotomax is one of the top draws for civil war historians or people who are just interested in civil war history. so we wanted to give the

i'm not expecting champagne or these guys to smoke cigars, but at least he is going.: it is important for a couple of reasons. there are officials inside the administration who still think there could be a big push by russian backed rebels and the worst is not behind us. secondly because there are a lot of other bilateral issues in this area that need to be discussed. one of them is yemen, another is syria and and his biggest partner or biggest ally is russia and finally, iran. if the united states and its allies along with russia want to get a deal with iran by the end of june bring a run back into the oil market than they need the russians on board. after we had that tentative deal in switzerland about a month ago, putin cannot exit now we will sell antiaircraft. that cut the u.s. off guard. they want putin on their side particularly when it comes to the process of removing sanctions. lasting united states once is for the u.s. to go rogue and to go into the market before western european companies start to do that. >> talking of european companies, under terrific pr

he said something else not mentioned in the story that if cigars could talk there were four witnesses. i don't know what that means. >> who said that? clinton? >> larry flint. >> that seems more like him. jedediah, are you finally glad it is not just a selection of old white men? >> i dated a guy that loved him. he is a socialist. it's true. i love he is running. he doesn't have a shot. middle america, mainstream moderate. but if he does run he will pull votes. i know people will vote for sanders' academics. people will go out and not vote for hillary clinton so that makes me happy. >> there won't be anyone in ohio voting for bernie sanders. >> it doesn't matter. >> they will take votes from hillary, but not that many. >> you will be surprised. if elizabeth warren doesn't run there is a strong wing that want a leftist. they want a liberal. i want having conversations and they were rooting for warren. if they don't get warren they will look at sanders and say we don't love him and he is too extreme but hillary is considered right wing. they feel she will be no different than electing a

we give the example in the brief as somebody who knows he's selling cuban cigars in violation of an import ban. he knows, in this case that it's an illegal or controlled substance, but that knowledge does not equate. you do not say someone in the case knows he's selling a controlled substance because it turns out unbenoeps to him the cigars have marijuana to him. that's not the way you use the english language saying he knowingly sold marijuana or sold a controlled substance. >> take a case involving a drug that's not analog, but listed in, and say that the facts are these, the distributor gives it to the person who is going to make the distribution and say this is an illegal drug, go distribute it. the person then goes and districts it and tries to evade law enforcement and so forth is caught. now, is it -- is that sufficient? is that evidence sufficient to take the case to the jury so the jury can find -- the jury can decide whether there's circumstantial evidence that person who distributed the drugs knew it was a controlled substance under federal law opposed to one of the few things t

. >> at dumping to do with cigars.ause] >> that is for the older crowd right there. >> no, no, we don't talk about that. >> that is not good. martin o'malley is expected to announce his candidacy for the presidency next week. how little you care? >> i don't care at all, that's the answer to my question that you have on me. and we are not getting paid for this. [laughter] >> we have standards, what else do we need? and get everyone in their, i was really cynical. i just have a feeling that the republicans are beating each other up, the democrats are going to nominate hillary, i feel like we could just do ourselves a favor and talk about others. >> you want a dictatorship, you just want to put someone in power and never have to worry about this again. >> martin o'malley, i don't care about him. there is an aggressive irish-american running for president, but that is part of the story, we have petitioned the clintons to go on this trip in ireland. kennedy: take mumford and sun's. >> bill clinton, doing this strategically,

. >> it is going to be cuban cigar >> she can find a way to pay.u think that the former president and first lady are having some trouble in paradise we max. >> i don't think anything is different than it has ever been. but she is just not as charming as he is, there is something appealing about him. he is very charming and she is not. but also he is the former president and she is trying to be the president, just a different dynamic there. every time she opens her mouth she sticks her foot in it. >> that is an uncomfortable loafer to try to extract. >> ladies and gentlemen, thank you for being here. the beauty is end the beard. coming up, turning up some very unexpected places. we will explain all of that in tonight's nightcap. and first the author of the new book i was telling you about. sharing insights on one of the most popular presidents of the 20th century. stay with us. hey america, still not sure whether to stay or go to your people? ♪ well this summer, stay with choice hotels twice and get a $50 gift card you can use for just about anythin

it was close but no cigar for u.s. stocks after closing friday within two points of a record.hey slept half a percent on monday -- slipped have a percent on monday. we are joined from pittsburgh by mark. in this environment right now, with the jobs report as you said where goldilocks data set pretty much it is not driving market sentiment and yet we are seeing a bit of a selloff. more volatility? mark: i think so. the percentage of days where the dow has gone up or down and today we had a 30% which is above the average of 23% going back to 1902. volatility is already with us. full valuations in u.s. equity markets are being met at the intersection of changing fed morey, whether in june or likely september. either way the fed seems eager to get on the path of raising interest rates and as a consequence of that the prospects of risk out there. that is enough to induce continued volatility. angie: i guess that is why we -- vix index with interesting trades, investors betting that we could see more volatility. mark: no doubt about it. today is a case in point where we saw a backup

there hasn't been one cigar exception -- single exception. will people say crazy things in the name of religion? yes. that is why they go to court. that doesn't justify government intrusion into all of these groups. it doesn't make sense. >> the argument does make to justify racial segregation and racial exclusion in the 1960's and 1970's is now being made when it comes to gays and lesbians. i'm not saying she is a racist. i'm saying, why can i run my business according to my religious beliefs? that is precisely the argument made with respect to race and interracial marriage in the 1960's and 1970's. they were rejected then and should have been rejected now when he comes to gays and lesbians couples were now facing the same kinds of obstacles racial minorities were in the 60's and 70's. >> in one case when a gay person was excused based on racial claims -- >> look at what happened in indiana. a photographer refused to photograph a same-sex wedding ceremony. she brought a claim under the states religious freedom restoration. the court rejected

sometimes -- can i give you $1000 if i can like this -- light this cigar?s unfortunately, like television, you are always late. but time i get to work i'm an hour late, and that is the way it goes. every day is the best compromise we can make. sometimes chips fall your way sometimes they don't. the plane is taking off at 5:31 way or another. charlie: they say you are in army's lease of critical -- enormously self-critical. david: ultimately i except the responsibility for everything that goes wrong. it is like a guy driving a race car. they build a car, they put the engine in it, they fine-tune it, adjust the fuel flow and then i go out there and put it in the wall. every day i am given the elements of a great car. some days, because i'm human, i just stack it up. knowing the staff of 50 or 60 people have done their best every day, then they put me in the -- car, oh my goodness, he tapped the wall and turned four. i should be responsible. my name is in the credits. i get the big paycheck. charlie: there it is, a remarkable television journey into the hearts

they dumped 30 tons of cigarettes, cigars, chewing tobacco and snuff into a landfill in yolo county.e largest destruction of tobacco products in california history. the state says all of these products were secretly transported into california from other states and countries, which means none of it was properly taxed. >>> glazer received 55% of the vote in the district 7 special election. he defeated fellow democrat susan bonilla. glazer is a moderate backed by business. he hopes to ban strikes by b.a.r.t., labor unions. >>> a new field poll ranks the candidates vying for barbara boxer's seat. harris is in first with 20%. sanchez is in second with 8%. rocky chavez was the choice of 6%. tom dell decaro had 5%. 60% of the voters had no preference. the primary is still a year away. >>> the warriors take on the houston rockets in game 2 of the western conference finals tomorrow. but how much do warriors fans really know about the rockets? >> reporter: a new playoff series means a new playoff test, not only for the warriors, but also for the fans. time to see how they stack up with anothe

i will listen while i enjoy my gelato and cigar. susan: did dolley madison travel abroad?i don't think she ever travel abroad. susan: diplomats were amazed by that because she was so conversant and she was a diplomatic wife so they did marvel that she had that quality. susan: and how did she get her knowledge of french fashions for example? catherine: if you were dolley madison, you could not go anywhere whether it was a city in america or france without having to shop for her. also very early on she became the protege of the french minister's wife and she schooled her as well. edith: she hired a master of ceremonies in the white house who was french and familiar with all of the diplomatic niceties shall we say so that he would explain to her what kind of food was served and what the french taste was and what french cuisine was about so she had a number of people who helped school her in this type of thing. >> the white house staff is all of this come from the money that they were paid or from their personal wealth, all these extra staff and advisors that you talk about? >

he says he still enjoys smoking small cigars and drinking whiskey. and he still drives. not after drinking whiskey. he received a letter from the president to mark the occasion. happy birthday. now back to sara and simon. >> i love that story. >> nice. >> thank you. >> whiskey and cigars. >> less than half an hour before the closing bell. and we've got a rally and we're in fact in record territory at least on the s&p 500. around that closing high 2117.69 is the level to watch. and the dow is still about 1% away from its record high. >>> when warren buffett speaks wall street and the rest of the world listens. up next highlights from that humdinger of an interview with becky quick. the oracle of omaha, along with reaction from a top buffett watcher. >>> also, jeffrey gundlach and he'll talk about the fed policy. i hope the dollar and a lot more. >>> later, as if that wasn't enough, grammy winner pitbull will be with us from the emerge america conference. find out why he wants to turn miami into the next tech hub. ♪ >>> all right. heading into the "closing bell," over 20 m

you can't have cigars pipes, or even e-cigarettes. smoking still allowed on the beach within a designated area. >>> it seems many of you are concerned about hillary clinton's honesty. that's according to a new associated press gfk poll. nearly four in ten democrats and more than half the independents asked agreed that honesty is not the best word for her. a majority of those asked, agreed clinton is strong and decisive. but only a minority thinks she is inspiring and likable. >>> well this morning, musician b.b. king is waking up in hospice care. his website says he is at home in las vegas. we brought this story to you earlier. >> that's right. want to wish him the best. >> yes. >>> and we do want to mention that the wizards will take on the atlanta hawks in the eastern conference semifinals. the hawks beat the nets last night. game one is sunday in atlanta at 1:00 p.m. we're looking at video of the nfl draft, so that's not the right video, but go ahead and let you know the wizards will play their next game on saturday. >> there's you

i think he was germ and couldn't understand him and he smoked smelly cigars and i went to his house andelled like a wet mattress and would jump on me. i hated it. >> did you play sports in school? >> yeah, i was on the swimming team. >> jimmy: wow. >> it makes me laugh. i was a backstroker. >> jimmy: were you really? you had a specialty. >> i had a specialty. they had to give me something. i was the third level backstroke guy. >> jimmy: how many were on the swim team? >> i don't know. it was a big team. >> jimmy: you get to travel with the team? >> oh, yeah. we would go have meets. we had to go training. we went to the we went to the swimming hole of fame. >> jimmy: there is one? >> there is one. incredible. i might be in it. we would go there to train in ft. lauderdale. this was in sort of the '80s. we were all teenagers anding. >> jimmy: it would be fun. you go with the girl's swim team, too. >> yeah. >> jimmy: you go together. what's the camaraderie like? is it roughhousing like in football or are you rubbing sunscreen on each other. >> it was more like, yeah, shave each other and st