friday morning, basically in line learning cimber. today, it rebounded solid six cents. we might be approaching the point where it's just too cheap. i think it will be a great stock. let's take a closer look . the chairman and ceo. welcome to the show. welcome back to the show. when they make these judgments, they don't seem to understand the adversity that you've had for multiple times. give them a background of what you already accomplished, they will understand. >> you put our numbers in any company in another sector, and everybody will give a lot of credit and would appreciate it a lot more. we had 2 billion in revenue. last year, 20.4. that's 10 times, not 10%. already on track for 24, that's another 20%. so that's growth. it's not old economy. >> three times earnings, i think paying down debt is very smart but what would happen? it seems so far that it isn't working. in terms of trying to convince analysts and institutions of what a great value this is . >> i worry about the stock a lot. i just can't manage the company for the stock price. take advantage of what th