cindy is on a mission. cindy is on a mission. cindy is going to find and see her granddaughter and she will not be denied, and that's it. tracks down amy huizenga, tracks down casey and say, you will take me to my granddaughter now! she tries to rely on the old song, she's at zani's. i don't want to wake her up, ze's add zanies, at zani's. despite everything sing difficult says, the threat of cindy anthony to call the police, same old song, zani, zani, zani, zani, zani, until finally her brother, lee anthony says to her, hey, let's play this out. i'm the police officer and you're you. ms. anthony, take me to your granddaughter. no, she's sleeping. huh-uh, take me to your granddaughter -- your daughter, and convinces her of the reality that this story simply will not stand, cannot survive. your lie will not succeed, and in a pattern which you will see repeated in the face of a lie that simply cannot stand, she comes up with a new lie. yes, there's a zani, but zani kidnapped caylee. kidnapped caylee 31 days ago. it's interest that

cindy reaches out to casey to find out where she and caylee are. again and again casey avoids her. >> you know, she had an explanation every day of where she was and a reasonable explanation. >> but cindy grows desperate as days turn to weeks and still no caylee. then george finds out their car, the white sun fire casey has been driving has been towed. concern gives way to panic when they get close to the car and smell something. >> they get there and they say there's this overwhelming stench just coming from the car. you're three feet away and you can smell it. >> george is a former sheriff's deputy and later tells police he knows the smell. >> it smells like a decomposing body. >> after retrieving the car, cindy anthony finally tracks casey down through a friend and confronts her. >> when casey came to the door, you know, i asked her where caylee was and she said she was with the nanny, and i said let's go pick up caylee, and she said no, mom, you know, it's kind of late in the evening. i told her, i said one of two things is happening, you know,

>> cindy anthony. she called me up and i said cindy, i can't tell you i can help you because we have got a law enforcement has to approve our coming in. >> judge jeanine: cindy is the one that called you in but you are now suing casey. jose baez was also present when they told you casey wa case cas missing. are you suing jose as well? >> casey there was and jose baez told me the same thing, we know she is alive out there some where hopefully you can get her located and bring her back but you can do whatever you need to do to it find little caylee but you cannot ask my client any questions about h her missing daughter. >> have you ever talk to her or ask her questions or you didn't? >> no, i didn't because jose baez said no but every day casey is saying you heard anything. >> judge jeanine: i have a few more questions. tim, the orange county sheriff's confirmed there is a tampering with a witness investigation involving a volunteer with your organization texas equisearch. the concern is that you filed t

he had the phone records for both cindy and george anthony's cell phones. as you recall cindy anthony said on the day that caylee died basically that now we know caylee died she found the pool ladder attached to the pool and she immediately called george to ask him. now they say there were no such calls made between the cell phones. we heard from a forensic pathologist who said -- i'm sorry a frepsic anthropologist who discredited the critique on the medical examiner's autopsy. dr. spits said dr. g's autopsy was shoddy. and now this other expert says, no. it wasn't. she did the right thing. she did not have to open caylee's skull as dr. spits recommended. pretty big points tackled right there by the rebuttal witnesses yesterday. >> absolutely. i know we're going to get into that with our legal analysts what that means. how about tomorrow with closing arguments? they're definitively set for sunday morning? >> reporter: they are. it's supposed to start tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. beginning with the prosecution then the defense's turn and then the prosecution gets t

it was palpable how her heart went out to cindy anthony. is that going to play in their deliberations as to guilt or nonguilt? that we are punishing grand patients, ultimately, -- grand parents, , if we take their daughter away. will that play? >> i think that will. the conversation i've had with my mom, there are a lot of grandmothers with grandkids around the same age as caylee. my mom keeps saying, she has her thoughts. she has her opinions on this at the end of the day, she said, i can sometimes understand why she sticks her neck out for casey. it is her daughter. it is your child. i don't have kids, i can't quite relate to that yet. i would give my own life for my niece. it is different we people say, you're a parent. >> judge jeanine: holly, susan thanks so much. >> coming up, the prosecution place out all the reasons why the jury should not believe that casey anthony was the amazing mother the defense has tried to make her out to be. we are going to play that tape for you. plus, judge perry threatens to throw the lawyers out of the c

whose case did george and cindy help, if anybody's?g us jim hammer, diana 10 miss and bernie grimm and ted williams. ted represents brandon sparks the son of the man who found caylee's remains. jim, who did george and cindy help or hurt? >> i think it cut both ways a little bit. i think the problem for the prosecution beyond how did this girl die, if she died at someone's hands, who? you get three people involved. then the possible scenarios start multiplying. was it something in the pool? did the girl drown? did the father have something to do with it? the jury begins to say who did it, what happened? i don't know. i gotta vote not guilty. >> greta: ted and be candid. >> i will be candid. let me give you a ted williams news alert, i believe and i think it will come out in some stage in the future, that cindy and george were gonna do anything and any means necessary to save their daughter from having a needle in her arm. as a result of that, cindy came out with the chloroform and i believe that was part and parcel to help -- >> greta:

cindy anthony's employer testifying cindy's work computer record show she was logged on at the time sheme searching for the word chloroform on her home computer. you guys got it all covered there. good to see you both. tom, let me start with you. pretty damaging for the defense, right? >> devastating. the question is why didn't jose baez subpoena send imrecord himself in advance of trial before he decided to question cindy and try and put this testimony that seems to deflect the motive and cause of death that the prosecution was going with from this client. it's just an absolute disastrous misstep by a defense attorney and the defense team appears to have not done its homework. gretchen: i think anyone in the field of law would see this is a major mistake for the defense. >> i do, but there is an amazing war story. i was in a trial and my client's wife testified and they impeached her with a time card that she was at work. i called the owner and said they punched her in because they had no vacation policy. you be lob this stuff. it could be "a" somebody else logged onto her computer. it

george, cindy, casey all took hand in raising caylee. we know cindy went to work.then the grey area comes in. >> greta: at that grey area, i realize that george isn't charged in this case. what i find interesting is that some jurors thought he might be responsible, not just for an accident, cover-up but for a murder. >> it was one of those things because he was there and there's a grey area there. he was in question for us just being -- having some character issues when he was on that stan. he was there. he was there at time on that day that all the grey area is happening with us. that puts him in that mix. it put him in the mix for us. >> greta: coming up, outrage and anger from people and from the prosecutors. there was huge disappointment. prosecutor jeff ashton is here. what does he think about the trial? what was his relationship like with cindy and george anthony? what really happened in that smirking situation? you hear directly from jeff ashton. defense attorney cheney mason describes his client as likeable. likeable. and much more, coming up. motorcycles,

they were going to attack some key testimony from cindy's cases mother, cindy anthony.k to our panel. is this routine for this kind of a trial, guys? joey let's start with you. should we expect more last minute hold ups. >> first of all, jon as we've seen in this trial nothing is routine. it's quite a zoo over there. let's start here, look it's at the rebuttal case and what the prosecution has to decide is when is enough enough? i think that ultimately they have to come to grips with whether they feel comfortable enough inletting the case go to the jury and letting the jury decide. this is important for both sides and primarily you have a weary jury, jon. they have been there for a longtime, it's been, what, six weeks or longer, they've been sitting there, they've been patient. the judge has made certain promises in terms of we're going to get it done by the 4th of july. you have to balance the need for additional testimony in order to rebut points the defense made with the need to get a weary jury the says so they can make a decision, because a weary jury is an and rej

we get that and understand, but why does cindy feel the need to lie to cover for her daughter? if these searches aren't sinister, if this chloroform wasn't used on this baby, if this is not part of how she died, why do you have to lie about it? why do you have to cover it up? and as for the holes, i brought you a present tonight, okay? i got this thing that i made up that i show to my jurors when doing a closing argument. as you can see, it is a puzzle. what is it a color of, don in. >> spiedy. yes, it's spiedy man. look closely at it and you'll see there's a piece missing here. there's a piece missing over here and eefrb and hereof. so the bottom line is although you don't know what every single little piece of the puzzle looks like, you know what the big picture looks like. therefore, i think what the jury is going to do with those questions that jane just raised, they are going to think about it, but then they're going to go, you know what? in the grand scheme of things when i look at this entire puzzle, because this is what they're going to argue to them, you might not know

george, cindy, casey all took hand in raising caylee. we know cindy went to work. the grey area comes in. >> greta: at that grey area, i realize that george isn't charged in this case. what i find interesting is that some jurors thought he might be responsible, not just for an accident, cover-up but for a murder. >> it was one of those things because he was there and there's a grey area there. he was in question for us just being -- having some character issues when he was on that stan. he was there. he was there at time on that day that all the grey area is happening with us. that puts him in that mix. it put him in the mix for us. >> greta: coming up, outrage and anger from people and from the prosecutors. there was huge disappointment. prosecutor jeff ashton is here. what does he think about the trial? what was his relationship like with cindy and george anthony? what really happened in that smirking situation? you hear directly from jeff ashton. defense attorney cheney mason describes his client as likeable. and much more, coming up. [ male annocer ] things see

i remember having you on, and you called her spendy anthony instead of cindy anthony. >> well, it isat she absolutely lied and she committed perjury and she did so to save her daughter es li daughter's life, and we get that, and we understand it, but the jurors are sitting there asking themselves why does cindy feel the need to lie to cover for her daughter. if these searches were not sinister and if the chloroform was not used on the baby or part of how she died, why do you have to lie about it and cover it up? as for the holes and don, i brought you a little present here, because i have a thing that i e ma-- that i made up th i show to the jurors when i do a closing, and looking at this puzzle, can you tell what this is? >> it is spydy man. >> and you can see that there is a piece missing over here and here and the bottom line is that although you don't know what every single little piece of this puzzle looks like, you know what the big picture looks like. so, therefore, what the jury is going to do with the questions that jane just raised, they are going to think about it, but the

did they prove cindy anthony lied when she said she was the one searching for chloroform on the family computer? her ugughterer'se could hinge on that one detail. >> a royal weekend. royal stories across two continents and monaco longtime bachelor prince albert is married in an elaborate ceremony despite rumors that his bride tried to run away. >>> can anyone else make wearing a maple leaf this good. >>> party in the usa. a scorcher of a holiday weekend with record highs across much of the country. race to the beach. in some communities that heat and dry weather may mean no fireworks on the fourth? >>> and happy fourth of july weekend, everyone. dan harris is on assignment but we're happy to have dan abrams with us. dan, if there were ever a weekend to join us, this is the onon a lot of legal news going on. >> unbelievably, the casey anthony case, strauss-kahn. we're not even going to get to amanda knox. >> fireworks in the courtroom. >> when you start the show talking about prince albert talking about rumors she might run away. you never know. >> what do they tell their kids? >> exact

july 15th, the car is discovered, cindy is on a mission. cindy is on a mission. cindy is going to find and see her granddaughter and she will not be denied and that's it. tracks down amy huizenga tracks down casey and says you will take me to my granddaughter now. she tries to lie on the old thought she is at zany's i don't want to wake her up. she is at zany's despite everything that cindy says despite the threat of cindy anthony to call the police sticks to the story. same old. za zahny, zany, zany. finally her brother lee anthony says to her, let's play this t. i am the police officer and you are you. ms. anthony take me to your grapd daughter, no, she is sleeping. awe ue. take me to your granddaughter and convinces her of the reality this story simply will not stand. cannot survive. your lie will not receive. in a pattern in a face of a lie that simply cannot stand, she comes up with a new lie. yes, threes a zani but zani kidnapped caylee. kidnapped caylee 31 days ago. >> the cornered the accused mom even lies to the cops. >> initially the police treat her as

and remember how cindy anthony explained away the neck breaking video? did not search for neck breaking, but i do recall that there was a pop-up that was showing a youtube regarding a skateboarder, and i recall it saying a neck-breaking feat. >> reporter: again, the expert said not possible. >> this is not the result of a pop-up but is the result of a human being specifically entering "neck" and "breaking." >> reporter: and then there was the timing of those searches. cindy claims she left work early and went online. >> were you home on march 17th of 2008 between 1:43 and 1:55 p.m.? >> if those computer entries were made, then i made them. i was home. >> but her boss backed up by company computer logs and time sheets testified that too was not true. >> no. >> reporter: now the jury has the day off today but both sides are hard at work as they prepare for tomorrow's closing arguments. those closing arguments are expected to last a half a day for each side. so by tomorrow night, the fate of casey anthony could be in the hahas of the jury. dan and bianna. >

we know it's not cindy's mother because cindy's mother -- cindy's mother had been in the car once, but cindy's moth ir's hair is treated and this hair is not. this hair could only come from caylee marie anthony. remember, the testimony is that the hairs actually taken from caylee's body also had the band just like the hair from the trunk. the only difference was the hairs from the broad difficult, the roots had completely decomposed, where the one in the trunk had not. as hard as it is to accept, when casey anthony was at blockbuster on june 16 walking arm in arm with her boyfriend tony, caylee was in the trunk of her car in the early stages of decomposition. when casey returned to the house on the 17th or 18th, she backed her car into the garage with the intention of burying caylee in the back yard. she went to brian burner and borrowed a shovel. based upon the dog alert ms. the back yard, she in all likelihood actually took caylee's body back to the back yard and set it down for a period of time. was digging too much work? perhaps. she decided instead to toss caylee's body in a swamp

that has to be cindy anthony on the stand.cially when she realized her little granddaughter was gone. and sitting in that courtroom and you couldn't even see her face anymore, just the top of her head because of her sobbing. that without doubt the most e emotional moment in the case. >> sonny, what do you think were the biggest turning points in this trial? >> i think this case was changed at opening statements, at the defense's opening statement. because before this trial began, everyone was saying, how do you defend a case like this? how do you defend a mother accused of murdering her child who behaved so oddly for 31 days? not reporting. and i think when the opening statement was made and we heard about alleged sexual abuse, we heard about an accidental drowning, we heard about this dysfunctional family, that was the game changer. the other i think crucial point was when george anthony took the stand. because in opening statement, george anthony was made to be the villain here. he took the stand not once, not twice, but sev

that has to be cindy anthony on the stand. to hear her 911 calls, especially when she realized her little granddaughter was gone. and sitting in that courtroom and you couldn't even see her face anymore, just the top of her head because of her sobbing. that without doubt the most e emotional moment in the case. >> sonny, what do you think were the biggest turning points in this trial? >> i think this case was changed at opening statements, at the defense's opening statement. because before this trial began, everyone was saying, how do you defend a case like this? how do you defend a mother accused of murdering her child who behaved so oddly for 31 days? not reporting. and i think when the opening statement was made and we heard about alleged sexual abuse, we heard about an accidental drowning, we heard about this dysfunctional family, that was the game changer. the other i think crucial point was when george anthony took the stand. because in opening statement, george anthony was made to be the villain here. he took the stand

cindy is on a mission.s going to find and save her granddaughter and she will not be denied. >> casey's car, 'ban don edaban dond in a tow yard would become the scientific evidence for murder. a car with the trunk that tested high for the presence of chloroform and witnesses said had the unmistakable scent of death about it. a cadaver dog recognized a aroma and a sciencetist who said he was able to detech the odor of human decomposition. >> we're not just relying on his nose. we are relying on science too. we have exploded the myth of the garbage. >> but, would that convince the jury? >> just the smell. there was no blood. no decomp stain inside the trunk. >> the state also warned jurors about following the line of argument that caylee drowned and that george had a hand in it. >> a trip down the rabbit hole where men who love their granddaughters and take an innocent accident and make it look like a murder for no reason. >> the state put up pictures to remind the jurors that the only person's lifestyle was

cindy can't go back to being a nurse. they need to figure out where they can survive financially together as a family and where it takes them they are going to do it together. martha: let me ask you about any further legal action. two questions on that. after the o.j. simpson trial we all remember that the simpson family sued for wrongful death and won. is there any scenario under which george or cindy anthony would try to press civil or wrongful death charges against their daughter. >> that scenario is theoretically there, but if they plan to do if everything is filed it will be a public record and everybody will know about it. martha: there are any indications that charges will be brought against george and cindy anthony for anything that transpired in this trial. >> i've heard rumblings, mr. ashton was on a show saying there were charges that could be brought against cindy. if there are we will vigorously defend them. the state has a right to bring charges if they deem them to be appropriate. the family has already bee

we did talk between jose, cindy and i. there was some corn firm about different things there. -- there was some confirmation about different things. >> greta: do you have any explanation for that? that seems dangerous to put someone on the stand who he has not spoken to? >> do i know why jose does what he does? absolutely not. as far as the testimony that was princed today, i they what he was trying to achieve in saying that george was the one who coordinated and then completed the burial ceremony that the family had. but as you heard the testimony i was a family affair. they all took part in it. and the inference that's where casey must have learned this is what you do with a loved one. >> greta: any worry or concern as a lawyer, for cindy? there was discussion outside the hearing of the jury about her -- when she testified she said that she was the one who had done the research on the computer and is she was home from work today. apparently the prosecution had secured some employment records to show that wasn't true. tha

could cindy be facing perjury charges? our legal panel is back. jim, would you charge cindy?n, perjury really sends me through the roof. it happens all the time. defendants lie, done get mad bernie, but it is true. witnesses lie for defendants. if the prosecutor did it would look like sour grapes. they lost the big case they ought to think twice. >> greta: while tell you why i would not. the fact that cindy said that car smelled like death showed this was not a mother trying to protect her child, because she wouldn't have said that and repeated it and tried to soften it. i think cindy was mistaken, i don't think she was lying. >> she was all over the place. honestly, this was not the piece of evidence that lost the case. why take more from this woman? her life is bad enough. i don't think they are going to do it and i don't think they should. >> greta: bernie, sentencing is thursday, what would you give casey anthony and why? >> everything you can give her. she lied in a homicide investigation. it didn't get any more important. it was her daughter. she should have stood up an

is cindy trying to cover up for her daughter?rning from orlando is the attorney for cindy anthony, mark lipman. good morning to you. >> good morning to you. thank you for having me. >> some of this evidence might be compelling to some. how do you explain the disparity between her testimony, and the testimony of her employer? >> my client is adamant that she did those searches for chlorofill and chloroform. the dates in question, the 3/17 and the 3/21 dates, those were suggested by the prosecution. and she said if that's what you say it is, then it must be. but certainly my client never said those specific dates. she just knows she did those searches sometime in early 2008. she believes it was march. >> so you're saying, in fact, just might be a misunderstanding or confusion about the actual date? no matter what the date was, she's standing by her testimony that, in fact, she was at home, and doing those searches on the computer? >> absolutely. she knows she did those searches. she stands by what she said. it's a very material thi

him and cindy, he doesn't write cindy, cindy is not going to her apartment at night. cindy never went to her apartment. cindy wasn't consoling her for her brain tumor, but he was. before any of this, then he goes up denying saying it was an accident that snowballed out of control. he is telling her she is dead and still showing another face to the media and the public and he is going around doing all kinds of media appearances. within 48 hours of his so-called suicide, he is in front of the cameras again. if there is one thing you learned about this family, and it's dysfunction is they don't mind putting on another face. lies are what pumps what lives within this family. i told you that in the very beginning, she was raised that way, raised to lie. is it a surprise that she has this fantasy world? is it a surprise that she has all these imaginary friends? is it a surprise she turned out this way knowing the lies and actually seeing them firsthand? mind you, unfortunately they kept coming up on the stand again and again. you got see them on different days, you have to

cindy anthony was shown to be a liar. the issue now is whether or not she will be charged with perjury for stepping in and trying to take the premeditation out of the murder one. you've got three pieces of duct tame and evidence of chloroform. let's assume we forget about the clear a form martha, you have three pieces. i would instruct the jury as a judge in a murder case that premeditation can be formed almost simultaneous with the act itself. you have three pieces, you have to tear them separately, you are thinking. intent does not need to be formed two weeks before. it can be formed not very far from the actual act itself. martha: it's going to go to how deliberate of an act they think this was. whether or not they are throwing out the idea that this was an accidental death and perhaps an aggravated child abuse event, whether it was a single event. how deliberate? when we initially heard about the duct tape it was one piece that maybe they found, it had a heart sticker on it. then you started hearing about it being wra

cindy and if i gave us a tour of their home in august of 2008. inside casey's bedroom covered with photos of her daughter and then caylee's room. >> this is casey's room. you told me that caylee often times slept with her mother, right? >> every night she slept in here from the time she was born. casey breast-fed her. >> this is how the room -- >> this is how the room is always. except for caylee's toys usually being on the bed, a blanket, stuffed animals, those kinds of things. >> on the wall the picture. >> yeah. most of the pictures except for when casey was little, this is casey and lee when they were little. i think she was three months old there. >> greta: who is the father? >> caylee has never had a father. he was a friend of casey's. he's never been on caylee's life. not on her birth certificate. a friend of casey's that lives out of state. by the time caylee was born he had already started another family and he passed away earlier in the year. again, his family never had knowledge of caylee and that was a mutual thing that casey and he h

we rarely talked about cindy and george with casey.to remember, we were all just getting to know caylee and casey. it was only two months when we met casey that all of this happened. we didn't really hear much about cindy and george or at least i didn't. i don't know about tony. i can't speak for tony. i didn't really know much about the relationship between casey and cindy and george. >> greta: tell when caylee's law what is that? >> something i found out about on facebook today when i woke up. caylee's law would make it a felony to not report your child missing after 10 days. the best thing would be a child under 10 to make it a felony to not report them missing after 48 hours. we see in this case, casey is going to get off. there is no accountable. i think with passing caylee's law we can make sure this isn't going to happen in the future. >> greta: i'm not the jury, i'm curious, you think she murdered caylee? >> i have my personal feelings about it. but it really didn't matter what the focus now -- get are they good feelings or bad

cindy anthony, weeping as she listened to her 911 call. the one in which she reported her own daughter to the police. >> there's something wrong. i found my daughter's car today. and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car. >> reporter: and there was casey's act cue case, that her father and brother molested her as a child. an accusation george denies for him and his son. >> it all began when casey was 8 years old. >> reporter: it was by this claim she explained her bizarre by have your after her daughter died. partying until all hours. entering a hot body contest. even get a tattoo that read bella vita, the beaututul life. her attorney would claim that george helped casey hide the little girl's body after she accidentally drowned. the tension only mounted as the evidence wrapped up over the weekend. even the closing arguments, delivered over the holiday weekend, were unusually contentious, with lawyers from both sides yelling "objection." >> the boned showed evidence -- >> objection. >> overruled at this point. >> reporter

caylee, casey, cindy, lee, or cindy's mother. ok? well, we know it's not casey's because it's too long and casey's hair is treated. so we know it's not casey's. we know it's not cindy's because it's the wrong color, it's not treated, and it's too long. we know it's not lee's because it's too long. lee's hair is short. h this hair is 9 inches long and we know it's not cindy's mother because cindy's mother -- cindy's mother had been in the car once but cindy's mother's hair is treated and this hair is not. this hair could only come from caylee marie anthony. and remember the testimony is that the hairs actually taken from caylee's body also had the band just like the hair from the trunk. the only difference was the hairs from the body, the roots had completely decomposed where the one in the trunk had not. as hard as it is to accept, when casey anthony was at blockbuster on june 16th walking arm and arm with her boyfriend, tony. caylee was in the trunk of her car in the early stages of decomposition. when caylee -- casey returned to th

cindy's employer said she was at work during the time cindy said she was searching at home for the termloroform on the family computer. joining me live from tampa, florida, defense attorney, former prosecutor, joe. >> hi, alex. too we have this witness saying that cindy was not there at home and that she couldn't have possibly been doing these searches on the family computer at the time looking for chloroform. how damaging is this for the defense? >> it's damaging. i just don't think that anybody really believed her. you know, she also got caught on the neck breaking expert testified that you have to actually type that into the search box. she said it was a pop-up. it's perjury. there's clearly perjury. >> is it the kind of perjury, though, joe, that you think could land her in hot water? i mean, there are a lot of people who say, look, this is a mom doing whatever she can to protect her daughter. >> well, in the death penalty case when you commit perjury, it's a 15-year offense. the state attorney is not going to prosecute that. that's not gobbing happen. i wouldn't even think that the

>> no, ma'am, we did not. >> so why did cindy lie? >> those are some of the issues that jose baez could be touching on this afternoon as he continues his closing. after the lunch break let's go live to phil keating hog has been covering the case from the beginning. he is outside the orlando courtroom. what do we expect jose to continue with when continues his closing statement? >> not certain where we going to go. he really did talk to this jury quite honestly, says look, definitely she made mistakes, casey anthony screwed up. she should have reported this accidental drowning to the police. but he says too many things simply do not add up in the circumstancial case presented by the prosecution team. looking live inside the courtroom right now you can see jose baez at the defense table. absent from the see the next to him to his left is casey anthon the 25-year-old who is accused of first-degree murder, aggravated child neglect, manslaughter of a child as well as four counts of lying to police. jay cheney mason, that is the attorney wi

we talked to george and cindy's lawyer in our first hour.y the verdict. wouldn't say whether they believe she was actually innocent and it's just, nancy, so hard to see how after everything we heard in this trial, after all the accusations that were delivered against george anthony that this family can survive in any way. >> well, i think they will survive and there's been a lot of scuttlebutt about george and cindy anthony splitting up i think they are stronger now. >> what about casey? >> i think it's going to be too eerie for tot mom to go back into that home, back into caylee's room which is apparently still intact. past her ashes in an urn and survive in any degree, any normalcy. i don't think itit's going to happen. plus, she'll be a millionaire and go wherever she wants. >> i will think her relationship with george and cindy will be very different. her relationship with her mom is probably going to remain strong. you saw her mom probably lie on the witness stand. >> that was extraordinary. >> for her daughter and yet when it comes to