can assure you there's no chance that box will contain, say, immigrant moms or poverty moms or cindy sheehaneterans moms. these are not the groups we talk about when we talk about voting power. so call it a wild guess, but my sense is that moms undoubtedly will be important in all of their variations. still with me, rebecca walker, eva moskowitz, maria cordova and bill schneider is joining us. we were talking about the challenge of parenting and motherhood. what about the politics of it? what kinds of moms are the moms that candidates start thinking, this is the category i want to talk to and how do they talk to them? >> younger moms, they tend to be independent, they tend to be open to new ideas in politics. a lot of younger moms are single, and they rely on the safety net, which is why most of the time they vote democratic. the safety net is a crucial issue to young mothers and in 0 2004 so was national security. a lot of them voted for george w. bush we called them security mo moms because they thought he could protect their families. >> a different way of thinking about moms. on the ques