there have been times when we have disagreed and as with other commissioners, for example cindy wu, i supported and do not agree with. but four commissioners weren't to work hard and who are committed to the city. i do respect every supervisor's broc if to vote against the commissioner with whom they have policy disagreements. i do not think that is inappropriate. every supervisor has to decide for himself or herself what criteria they use and policy views are a legitimate consideration. i think that comparing the situation in any way, shape or form to mitt romney or antonini -- and to attend school in an -- and to then scalia -- antonin scalini is not accurate. president chiu: roll-call vote, please. >> you have to make a motion. supervisor campos: -- kim: usually we do make an amendment and in this case we could not come to an agreement but we wanted to bring this to the full board. supervisor elsbernd has made the motion. second ed -- seconded by supervisor chu. supervisor avalos, no. supervisor campos, no. president chiu, no.

cindy wu? i have a quorum of the planning commission, chase? haas/ ? martinez? we have a quorum of the historic preservation commission. this is on the grants. >> thank you, commissioners. i just wanted to make a few comments of introduction before i introduce her, first, thank you for both commissioners for bearing with us. this was my responsibility for getting * mixed up. i appreciate your forbearance -- for bearing with us on that ledge. yes i have the your coming with us -- coming together with us for the special item. this is a project it that we have been working on for a while, and has offered a partnership with us on this design challenge, to come merida with innovative ways to deal with the -- come up with innovative ideas for the design problem related to the additions and the new construction in the historic districts, south of the market district and how these may be approached. we will have some interesting possibilities and approaches to this challenge. i will introduce driscoll, who will talk to you about the program. and how the design program i

cindy wu told me she was spending 30, 40 hours on the commission.t is thankless, and the people would do it, where they are on the political spectrum and whatever their views are, they do it because they care about their city and their community, and, ron, i know you are somewhere there has recently been a lot of conversation about the commission and commissioners, but across the spectrum, everyone has been set to see you go because you are so respected across the board, even by those who may disagree with you on various issues, and i think people know that you are fair, that you do not show any particular -- you do not tow any particular party line, and you recognize the need for the city to grow and develop, but you are also equally respectful for the character of the neighborhoods, and given your background in labor activism, that is not surprising at all. i so enjoy working with you. i will definitely miss you on the commission, as will a lot of people, but i also know, knowing you, this is not even close to the end, and you will be involved, an