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if you can afford japan tv, john wil ciocca makes this week. peter bread every morning in the nairobi. slum of con gay me, it's a typical breakfast here, but the bakery was recently forced to double its prices. value i'm, it will go out. that's why our customers are disappearing. dumble, they laziness his bad guys. he amended, we're not earning enough money. when his boss runs the bakery with 4 employees. prices for flower and sunflower oil. we're already going up. but now he says it's much worse due to russia's war against ukraine. international prices for wheat flour have jumped dramatically enough. what did you learn? what did you were paying attention to the war? because we need to know what's going on. and that would be that some of the products we use come from both countries and, and everyone, the whole world is concerned. now you hope and it's likely the poorest that would be hardest hit kenny's poor already have to spend half of their already low income on food. here around a 3rd of imported wheat comes from russia or ukraine. and peop

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from defending the russell rural, rural, making phone 630000000000 dollar war fund. worthless for ciocca, russia's access, consulting versus access to technology that will sap at economic trenton weekend. it's military for years to come. tonight, i say to the russian oligarchy in the crop leaders who built billions of dollars off his violent regime no more. the united states i needed united states department of justice assembling a dedicated task force to go after the crimes of the russian oligarchy were joining with european allies to find and seized our yachts luxury apartments. their private jets were coming for you or ill be gotten gains in tonight. i'm announcing that we will join our allies and closing off american aerospace to all russian flights. her i, sasha, adding additional screens on tooth . no idea what's coming. was already lost 30 percent of its value. the russian stock market is lost. 40 percent of us value and trading remain suspended. russian economy is railing and putting long is the one to blame. together with our allies were providing support to the ukrainians in th

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threatening eastern europe with welcome to to the ports, and here are my guests today. daria so hard ciocca russian journalist based in berlin, working for us best tv. and caroline are bigger i so she ologist and journalist from poland also a fellow at call too early about alabama. foundation in warsaw and robert boss academy. here in berlin and niche from slovakia, senior fellow at the german council on foreign relations award. welcome to all of you. so this was already had a profound effect on the eastern european countries in many, many ways. colina, you've just returned from a poland yesterday, i believe. tell me about what, what you felt there and what's what the mood is like. so i felt immense amount of fear and at the same time, immense amount of empathy. so you have fear because if you ask whether eastern europe will be attacked by putting well, thus part of the eastern europe already thinks, yes, we are already at war. so there is this fear which is connected with our geography and also with the historical experience of the region that tells us if you cranes it on fire than we are

if this is alive from ciocca district to the most of the capital here, we can continuously hear the fighting gun fire. and the shelling, shelling from far by the russian army and fierce gun fighting between the russians and ukrainian within close range. there is no several defense or ambulance here in this district. that's why the majority of presidents have already fled ukraine. the 2nd biggest city hurricane was one of the 1st areas to be targeted by the russians . after they began their invasion, a blogger, that was recording a video message when a math, when a missile exploded above him. yes, the glass, not nikita domain, called to the ground. he then scrambled to seek shelter, feeling more missile strikes. let's take a look at where things stand as the war enters its 10th day. the areas in red show what russian forces control, including sup, just held areas in the east and next crime in russia, forces have encircled the poor city of mighty u for, with food and water running out. having captured hansen then now trying to seize the nearby city of michael life, while in the north, russian

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i also spoke to under the asa ciocca, a member of the ukrainian parliament for the opposition party on us. his father was also a parliamentarian and voted for an independent ukraine in 1991. so that you told us how today's invasion by russia is the latest battle in a long struggle for independence. we shall continue the jobs which you have previous generations of. great and did you can, enters will fighting for our land in 19 twenties, in 19 forties, 19 fifties, and now in 2022 we continue this fight. so it's very, very long story and we are huge nation. we're still 40000000 people in the center of europe being in the largest country, the europe, and definitely we are not going to step back. so neither me nor my father, if you would stay here with me now or no other pretty little additions, will agree on a compromise we do on a integrity. and so what energy of you, great know lends in both of us, which were internationally recognized united, united you up until he also took an opposition member of the ukrainian parliament there. he's a look now at some other developments in the conflic

they did it in between the ciocca. they did it in the areas in doc, for and they think about the categories are serious about them, attempt to bring all sides together and to facilitate a kinds of agreements between the dozens of people have been injured in corsica during clashes between police and protest. this was 1000 people to part the demonstration on the french island rallies had been taking place. the days after a prominent nationalist figure was attacked in prison, yvon calona is in a coma, after being strangled protest. this was the government responsible. he was in prison for murdering a poet mission. in 1998, china's place 17000000 residents of shins, n on the lock down. the southern tech hub sits across the border from hong kong. the chinese government moved to lockdown, chins, and after 66 new core, with 19 cases were reported. the city central business district home to tech james as hawaii and 10th, it has also been sealed off. of course, you can find out much more about the stories were falling on our we

they did it in between the 3 and the ciocca. they did it in the areas in the war. and the think about the categories are furious about them, attempt to bring all fights together and to facilitate a kinds of agreements between the erotic cleans responsibility for the bottles of ballistic missiles is struck in the u. s. consulate in the northern iraqi city of abil rating state tv support. the attacks were aimed at what it called secret is really bases and they were in retaliation for an air strike in syria and killed 2 revolutionary guard members. a us official said there was no impact to the counselors, which is currently unoccupied. a satellite channel near the u. s. considered, went on a shortly after the attack, showing shattered glass and deborah young. the studio for a summer binge of it has been this is from baghdad. this is the 1st time that we're hearing of an attack using ballistic missiles into or out by from iran. the i r g. c has claim responsibility, but they're not explicitly said why the thing that is in response to evil deed by israel. and if it does

they did it in between the ciocca, they did it and all the areas in doc for and the think about the categories are furious about them, attempt to bring all sides together and to facilitate a kinds of agreements between the now more on ukraine and the worn ukraine, and despite the worry of what's going on back home, ukraine's 20 para athletics at athletes rather have achieved their best metal whole at the winter olympics. it finished 2nd in the metal table. ukraine had 11 golds, 10 silvers and 8 bronzes. house china top the standings with 18 gold medals as the games came to a close in between on sunday. so most what hughes in the world numbered to squash player ali farrah has spoken out against the war in ukraine, but also condemned the situation in palestine. egyptian made the comments after his victory in london. never been allowed to speak about politics in scores, but all of us all the notes allowed soil, but we are allowed. i hope that the people also look at your patient everywhere in the world. i mean, the parisians have been going through that for the past 7 to 40 years and her and her

they did it in between the 3 and the ciocca. they did it and all the areas in the 4 and the think about the categories are furious about them. attempt to bring all fights together and to facilitate a kinds of agreements between the 11 people have died in an assault on a gold mine in northern bettina fasfa around 30 gunman. i'm motor bikes, attack the mine in bali after in the south region 2 days ago. gunman killed 10 people at another gold mine in the regions. a gold is makena fast as most important export. it is currently the 5th largest go producer in africa. in 2021, 54 tons will produce that's a 20 percent increase from the year before. at the same time, the country has been gripped by growing insecurity more than 1300 attacks were recorded last year. a twofold increase from 2020 monitoring group say it's replaced marley as the epicenter of the cycle. crisis and charities have warned that some donors are considering reducing funding for begin of fast, so by up to 70 percent, to instead support ukraine. formally, as a consult

system, the inter physical system as well as the concession was sold to the private come to this every ciocca water in the plates is private commodity. one of the 1st things, some of the calculus did was to start crossing off would supply to people. he hadn't paid the bills the number of people who had their water cut off, but failing to pay, the bills has almost trebled in a yeah. one company for example, disconnected 11 salesman's customers, and as far as the company was concerned, they can stay disconnected if they didn't pay the bills, they didn't get the war. so i was, i always just come by know, nicole like on the you have to come up with the times. you think you'll have to make this journey that during the day just come down again. well, probably another bought i mean you go to here, you gotta do cooking. we didn't even have to care for this during the war time. ah, i said to myself, it's disgusting. but from the milk perspective, but doesn't bursa the market can care less if people die of cholera, really that's not their job, the job is making money and leave them not very well. ah fi

his friend is a major international supervisor, michael ciocca. thank you very much for speaking to us there, and that's all i've got for you for the moment from movies. all right, thanks for that. john hall in levine lets me to another are analyst safe on wolf. he is a professor of international security. the university of funding in the u. k. thanks for joining us. mr. wolfe was he will take care. do you foresee this turning into a protracted conflict? yes, i think the, the phones all back at the moment. neither if flush are going to let, this is the question again for ukraine, nor is ukrainian resistance to going going to crumble anytime soon. i think for as long as ukraine can hold out quarterly for a small go with western supplies will be getting in to support the ukrainian resistance and the smallest. thanks, capped off and put the b intensive part. i think we are in here for a really long and potentially quite, quite darkly and cloudy was in a funeral. if the issue is, how long can ukraine hold out? i mean, to put that question to you, how