annita mcveigh has been speaking to former abba member bjorn ulvaeus, who's the president of cisac.erable and... at the live industry for instances all shut down at the moment. there are people here who do not know how they will get money for the event in the next few months so it is very desperate. cisac has members who are collecting societies, they have locally set up emergency funds to help curators. we are doing our bit, and the rest of the industry is as well. we are talking about not just the industry is as well. we are talking about notjust musicians, but visual artist, people working in drama and literature. how will you use your experience and influence to help them then? i don't know yet. i have a honeymoon as a president, don't i? it is a strange kind of honeymoon, in the middle of a pandemic. probably more challenging than any of your predecessors. absolutely, but i'm learning. my ambition is... i have always been very interested in technology and music. my ambition is like technology, because i know it's there, to create that for the collecting societies to help creato

let's speak now to bjorn ulvaeus, the president of cisac. one quarter of abba, of course. speak with us. good morning. i read in an interview you never expected to be appointed the president of anything, but here you are, and certainly with your experience you are absolutely in the right position to champion the rights of creators. tell us what youraims are in rights of creators. tell us what your aims are in these unprecedented times. well, everyone is trying to help support the music industry, which is very vulnerable and the live industry, for instance, is all shut down for the moment and there are people there who don't know how they will get money for their rent in the next few months. so it's very desperate. cisac has members who are collecting societies and they have locally set up emergency funds to help creators. so we are doing our bit. and the rest of the industry is as well. we are talking about not just musicians but visual artists, people working in drama and literature. how are you going to use your experience and influence to help them? i don't know yet. i