so what are we going to do about compromising this matter into something where the citizenry can accept ians one of the strength i had as committee chairman was that i always would see to it that i got the left and the right to compromise together on legislation. the end result was we passed enormously difficult legislation after huge fights. we passed it with very la ate votes. that is still doable but it requires leadership and it reqeelres people be elected in congress. >> you had some less than kind things to say about the supreme courans >> i thought they were quite kind. as a matter of fact i thought they were not only deserved but truthfully, if they had listened, perha tw it would hav been helpful. >> following on, what do you think motivated the citizens united decision? >> money. and the fact that almost the entire court was selected on the basis of ideology and not legal training or anything. i probably shouldn't say any more. so far i have been overly kind. the supreme court staying in that particular mode is where it rembe ans. >> what has been below last point in your cong

but if you look around, you will find that the news media, the public at large, the citizenry in general all have their faults in this and their reason for feeling guilty about this. look and see what the listener ship of the president's state of the union message is on tv and you will observe one thing. that it is usually timed to fall after and instead of super bowl or something of that kind. i am not going to tell you the super bowl is not important and not good to watch or listen to or not exciting but i am going to tell you that from the standpoint of the nation's well-being it is not important. and so what we have to do is to get the american people to say, you know, we want you to do something and when you have a town meeting and have them get up and they say what are you going to do about compromising this into where the citizenry accepts it. one strength i had as committee chairman was i would see to it that i got the left and right to compromise together on legislation. the end result was we passed enormiously huge legislation after huge fights but we passed it -- enormously --

your class is but, in fact, we've discussed as a society that having representation for the entire citizenry and have a representative who will hear the points we want to make is one of the things that holds society together. and the society needs to include everyone. now if you look at your own agenda it says you're going into closed session as defendants, of course, this is preposterous reduce there's no defendants in the lawsuit you're the petitioner you're a party at all that raises a number of significant issues. first of all, you can't be petitioner's without taking action to initiate a lawsuit. when did you take action to initiate the lawsuit? i've been following this commission closely i don't think you've done so, in fact, if you've not taken action to initiate those lawsuits as petitioner's you're not parties at all if look at the petition one of the provisions for going into closed session is to discuss with your attorney as a party to the litigation. all of this would have been much more clear if you had put in the date in the agenda of the times when this lawsuit was filed it's

behind the scene negotiations need to take place but i also think like you said, we have an engaged citizenryyou can't just pay lip service even if you're coming with a half baked or fully baked project, you need to bring people in and make them feel part of it sure. i want to say we invited somebody from the port, port commissioners to come on. they declined. the port executive director did issue a statement and say port staff will thoughtfully review each of the grand jury's propos proposed recognitions and the san francisco waterfront is a shared responsibility. what are some of the recommendations you're making and do you feel like they will be taken seriously? >> i do think that they are going to be taken seriously. the thought the statement that the executive director that monique put out was a thoughtful statement and i think that she heard what we were saying. she has done some amazingly good work, you know, when you think about the port and everything going on in the past years, the ferry building, all the exploring, parks going on, she's really done an incredible job and when she ra

danger in trusting or befriending or reaching out to or even forgiving the rank-and-file of german citizenryour job in germany" reflects that tough tone saying to american soldiers, these people aren't your friends, don't trust them, don't be cruel to them and don't be abusive, but do not extend your hand in friendship. do not socialize with them. do not go to their houses. >> one quick point, the andpective came through providing the audience some historical perspective on your army's role throughout europe and by today's standard, it was not politically correct. >> absolutely not. there was a real belief in enemies. there was a film made under capra's authority about japan, sort of the equivalent about japan, a film that involved from a movie called "know your enemy" that was deemed so brutal and so incendiary that when it finally arrived in japan, right after hiroshima and nagasaki, macarthur said we will not show this. we have already made the point and we do not need to do this. >> mark harris, i want to ask you about a private snafu, 26 cartoons, not designed for children. what is the

qualcomm and so anytime you see businesses and big government you know scooping up data from the citizenry even if it is used for a good thing which this has the potential to be it makes one nervous because one good thing today can very easily be used as a bad thing in the future knowing that they have the capability when they say it's very easy to do to you know readjust to these a little bit to pick up and you know the city of chicago has a lot of you know cameras around that city you know we don't have necessarily be assurances that they're not going to take advantage of that yet i mean they've said hey we're going to be above board we're going to have community meetings about this they've done a very good job of keeping it above board but at the end of the day like i said today is good could be used for evil tomorrow and that's a bear and we have to pay attention to situations like this now besides the city of chicago are there other entities that are sort of behind this initiative yeah you have the mentioned earlier the urban center for the computation of data you also have the univer

business and we are trying to create an informed public we are trying to show that we have an informed citizenry that can we take good sound decisions of policy i mean if you could just put pictures of kids and cats fighting dogs and little children messing around in the on the beach i made sure i mean we can you know how much can we say people try to do everything i mean i really always supposed to save people from themselves the good aussie go ahead. well i'm going. saying you can't save people from themselves the media or the public i will say one you have to give them what they want or you're going to be out of business george last word before the break well no i mean i really don't think that way i really don't think we should be in the business of catering to the lowest common denominator because then i mean the you know let's just have it will just tabloid newspapers every well let's just have you know all you know let's have nothing but scandals i mean that's already all i know you know saying no we're going to go that was going break it's like after that short break we'll continue our d

and we are trying to create an informed public we are trying to ensure that we have an informed citizenry that can we take good sound decisions of what of policy i mean if you could you just put pictures of kids and cats fighting dogs and little children messing around in the on the beach i mean sure i mean we can you know we have how much can we say people turn themselves in to everybody i mean i really always supposed to save people from themselves who had also go ahead. well i'm just saying you can't save people from themselves the media the pebble what they want you have to give them what they want or you're going to be out of business george last word before the break well no i mean i really don't think that we i really don't we should be in the business of catering to the lowest common denominator because then i mean the you know let's just have a little just tabloid newspapers everywhere let's just have you know or you know let's have nothing but sex and scandals i mean that's all right you know i don't let you know saying no where will you go that was doing great this hour after t

this report makes it look like they're more prepared for war rather than prepared to protect the citizenry can you we've actually highlighted as you saw some of the mistakes that the swat teams have made when children are present but are these kind of a greater sign. with the issues of their tactics sure you know what our good friends at the a.c.l.u. they've done a fantastic job of submitting this report and just sort of confirming what i think many of suspected for a long time which is that the police are looking more and more like military you know and we remember that military forces and police units are two separate institutions and they have separate mandates and separate responsibilities but instead what we're seeing is that weapons and equipment that's specifically designed for the war zone is flooding in to local police and so when they have it they're going to want to use it and we've seen the rise of swat teams a rise of all these aggressive tactics that you've done such a great job highlighting here and then also we're seeing that as they increase their usage of it it's not beca

truth or to witness the truth, to bring the public to be active member misheard of a an informed citizenry has not change. more important today than ever to shine a spotlight on these efforts. it is my pleasure to introduce the moderator for this evening the chair of the selection committee. [applause] pohjola [applause] >> for those of you who'd don't know senior adviser previously with editor of foreign affairs with a long list of accolades including the washington correspondent , editor and publisher of the "chicago sun-times" and publisher of the "new york daily news." a fellow at j.f. kennedy school of government and at columbia university, a former chairman of the international center for journalist and former chairman of human rights watch the 2010 drust dan fagin in my extreme pleasure to invite him here tonight to. thank you speesevenspeeseven teen. [applause] >> good evening. katchis so glad to see you. i have been with the bernstein award for a number of years and i am struck by the quality of books we are given in an end is very hard to make a decision summer quite different bu

because we have a genuine opportunity to solve our problems through political process and engage the citizenry. it is critical to prosperity. >> certainly one of the things that has helped you in this election process you named abdul rahsin dosdem as your running mate. he was instrumental after 9/11, a strong man who controlled the militia. you yourself called him a known killer a few years ago. you called him the kind of power broker that afghanistan needs to get rid of. how does that jell with the way you have portrayed yourself as a reformer taking afghanistan and making it a modern country? >> first of all, bought into my reform program. he's not engaged in corruption. thirdly, if we are going obring genuine peace to the country we need to include people who have been engaged in conflict. and fourthly, he has been the only person in the past that has publicly apologized to the public and has been willing to take a new lease on life. he is a leader with charisma that has transformed him self from a political party and has paved the way to take leadership in civilian ways. he is going to com

. >> if soldiers come back and if they feel that the citizenry is owning the war morally, politically that helps enormously. but what they get are these conversation where they can tell the person is talking to at home as if it was the vet's war, and the soldier's war, and it's really not. >> if you spoke with the soldiers, would they say that the war is worth it? >> soldiers don't evaluate the warlike that. they're 19. they're not really investigating national policy. neither was i when i was 19 and in college. >> what do you take away from korengal. >> i asked things like what is courage--what does the word courage mean to you? why do you miss the war? i interviewed them right after deployment. why do you miss the war. what i hope soldiers get to it is greater insight to their reactions to the very confusing combat. soldiers reject the entire concept. one guy said, if you're a soldier and your buddy is in danger. running through gunfire to pull him to safety is not courage. it's friendship, brotherhood. to not do that is simply not being a soldier. in their minds soldier is cowa cow

but if you look around, you will find that the news media, the public at large, the citizenry in general all have their faults in this and their reason for feeling guilty about this. look and see what the listener ship of the president's state of the union message is on tv and you will observe one thing. that it is usually timed to fall after and instead of super bowl or something of that kind. i am not going to tell you the super bowl is not important and not good to watch or listen to or not exciting but i am going to tell you that from the standpoint of the nation's well-being it is not important. and so what we have to do is to get the american people to say, you know, we want you to do something and when you have a town meeting and have them get up and they say what are you going to do about compromising this into where the citizenry accepts it. one strength i had as committee chairman was i would see to it that i got the left and right to compromise together on legislation. the end result was we passed enormiously huge legislation after huge fights but we passed it -- enormously --

it's time to open the floodgates to the citizenry. they're ready to talk. >> to your knowledge, does the fbi have agents who have begun asking questions? have they talked with you? they basically have not talked to any of the victims of the irs targeting scandal. >> they certainly haven't talked to me. we've been wait eing over a yea >> that's incredible. >> and there doesn't appear to be any getting to the bottom of it. >> it seems to be one scandal after another. at some point the american people will surely say enough is enough. >> i think they're saying it, and think they're going be able to say it loud and clear through the bounty project. this crowd sourcing of a $1 million bountty, it's a table turner, it's a game-changer. i think if they think they can sweep it under the rug, they need to thing again. the citizens are ready to stand up. >> the tea party in this mid-election year, i am among those who don't see any power in the tea party. does it have a lot of juice yet just unseen at this point? >> i think that citizens are re

>> i think above everything else if soldiers come back and they feel that the citizenry is sort of owningthe war morally politically, that helps enormously. but what they get are these conversations where they can tell the person is talking to them about -- as if it was the vet's war, the soldier's war and it's really not. >> and if we talk to the soldiers you spent time with would they say the war is worth it? >> the scol engineers don't evaluate the -- the soldiers don't evaluate the war that way. >> what do you think they take away from koringal? >> i made the film so hopefully soldiers could understand their experience a little bit more deeply with a little bit more complexity. i asked what does word courage mean to you? why do you miss the war? i interviewed them right after deployment, what do you miss about the war? i hope what soldiers get from it is the insight into very confusing combat. >> koringal will be available in limited cities later this month. >>> 20 years since the infamous slow speed chase across los angeles. >> white ford bronco. use caution. >> concluded one of the

decided who would be teaching and why it was done without the full knowledge and participation of our citizenryou are right. lou: my number two. you have three. very quickly, i -- we are a nation which truly believes, even if we don't always practice it in public education, local control of public education. it has been good for work. it has been turned upside down by my opinion and in to some federal department of education and federal initiatives. thirdly, in this instance, with common core why in the world could we bring people together to drive an agenda and a program into our public schools? why not have that full on partnership between local education, state education. my god, we could even throw and the parents. >> what a concept, parents who are closest to to kids. i do not disagree with any of that, and that think what has happened is there was this rush. you have it with president obama , president bush, governors. they proclaimed -- lou: by the way, you know i do not have a favorite between those two in terms of public education. >> they proclaimed as opposed to rolling up sleeves an

he long regarded the armies and navies as a threat to the republic to easily use against the citizenry. by the end of the war of 1812, he was suggesting to the congress that the expand the navy and provide for a standing army. >> how would you evaluate them and how was it viewed by the public and the command as somebody that was successful or not very successful? stomach medicine was one of those few that left the presidency highly regarded by all of the countrymen. it was regarded by americans as evidence that we should be recognized on the world stage. they deserve to be recognized on the world stage and the rest of the world began to do that especially as you pointed out after andrew jackson got beat the heck out of the british by the battle of new orleans. one of the most intriguing aspects of the research that you came up with was. i think it is a major contribution from the historical standpoint. he had an affliction that was running throughout his life and yet he was able to achieve both anomalous check this debate coke -- phenomenal objectives as one of the most important found

for this we need to grow the basis of development by means of structural reforms to the citizenry andeconomy and now is the time to undertake such reforms. what are the changes we are proposing that are already underway? when the structure of reform of education focusing on equality come a public education and inclusion. two stimulation of economic growth and productivity, innovation and competitiveness and this obviously and attacking the challenges facing us regarding energy. three, tax reform providing on line resources for the state and redistributing more equitably efforts of common development. it almost -- also mostly the specs of the path of fiscal responsibility which is essential that the state is to honor its commitments in the medium and long-term. four, and the end up-to-date one, allowing more scope for democracy participation and guarantees for people in all their diversities. i should like to refer briefly to all these topics. firstly education which fosters equity and democracy. i'm not going to say anything that i will win a prize here but knowledge is essential in a

we need -- citizenry. we need to restore that respect that government officials work for the people and not the other way around. maptsz the -- madam president, the department of justice has a storied history. there is a history of attorneys general standing up to political pressure even against the presidents who have appointed them. listen, political pressure in this town is nothing new. and attorneys general throughout history have had a special mettle of being willing to look in the eyes of the president who appointed them and being able to say i care more about rule of law than any partisan allegiance i might have. when president richard nixon faced charges of abusing government power for partisan ends, his attorney general, elliott richardson, a republican, appointed archibald cox as special prosecutor. likewise when president bill clinton faced charges of ethical improprieties, his attorney general, janet reno, a democrat, reported robert fiske as independent counsel. sadly, the current attorney gen

at stake here is not the prerogatives of the senate, what's at stake here is the liberty of the citizenry if the senate over the years had conceded authority, given up its authority to the president, it has to be stopped. it isn't allowed to do that. the reason we have separation of powers is to prevent tyranny. we should apply it to both parties. they'll have to like it, and love it, if they disagree with its effect on policy. this isn't about policy, this is about the structure of the constitution. >> next up, how much are bill and hillary clinton really worth? and does it matter? when he agreed to cosign for his daughter's credit card... he thought it was the end of the conversation. she didn't tell him that her college expenses were going up. or that she maxed out her card during spring break. when the satellite provider checked his credit, he found out his daughter didn't pay her bills. but he's not worried. now he checks his credit report and score at experian.com, allowing him to keep track of his credit and take a break of his own. experian. live credit confident. finally, the pur

to be teaching and why was it done with the full knowledge and participation of our public, our citizenryre right. >> my number two, you've got three. very quickly. i -- we're a nation which we truly believe even if we don't always practice it in public education and that is local control of public education. >> right. >> it's been proved to work. it is been turned upsidedown by in my opinion an emphasis on the federal department of education and federal initiative. and thirdly in this instance, with common core, why in the world couldn't we bring people together rather than money to drive an agenda and program into our public schools, why not have a full-on partnership between local education, state education and my god, we could even throw in the parents. how about is that? >> what a concept. have parents who are closest to kids. i don't agree with any of that. i think what's happened is that there was this rush. look, you have it with president obama and you have had with governors. they pro claim -- >> you know i don't have a favorite among those two in terms of public education. >> y

but we shouldn't be helping a government that is only governing for part of the citizenry and setting themselves against others. >> should we help with air strikes, drones, some other military support or should we only condition that on maliki finally opening up and doing what he's refused to do all of these years, which is to include the sunnis? sfwl i came out of a classified briefing and i don't want to get into that. the way we ought to do this here in washington is the president should put a plan on the table and make a suggestion to congress about what we should do. just as we did last summer on the foreign relations kmtd, we debated the use of military force in syria. that's how the process is supposed to work. the administration hasn't provided a plan or suggestion, although they are deeply and xon sta constantly engaged to determine what that should be. they need to bring it to congress then let us debate about what we should do. frankly, andrea, as you know, this is -- it's not really about iraq. it has stemmed out of the syrian civil war, which at the beginning looked like

armies and navies as too expensive and as a threat to the republic, too easily used against the citizenry. by the end of the war of 1812 he was suggesting congress expanded navy and provide a standing army. >> how would you evaluate him overall? how was he looked upon, was he viewed by the public by the day of his command when somebody was successful or not very successful? >> contemporaries, madison was one of those who viewed left the presidency, we don't pay much attention to the board 1812. it was regarded by americans, and we deserve to be recognized by the world stage. and andrew jackson beat the heck out of the battle of new orleans. >> one of the most intriguing aspects of the research that came up was having to do with madison's health. it was a major contribution from a historical standpoint. he had an affliction that was with him throughout his entire life and yet he was able to achieve these phenomenal objectives under extraordinary circumstances, one of the most important founders. can you tell us about that, what his problem was and how he dealt with it? >> was one of those

the citizenry is the best eyes and ears for this, anderson. it's always 20/20 hindsight, we know. if you can, try to say something before anything happens. anderson? >> seems like she saw a lot and could have said something. thanks very much. in addition to hearing what she heard from the millers, kelly fielder was holding a box of documents for them, presumably not knowing the contents of them. if that's according to local paper "the las vegas review journal" saying the documents included detailed plans to take over a courthouse and kill public officials. in a moment, where their goals and views fit into a bigger picture. but first what we're learning about the three lives they took. >> we're a community in tears here. i will tell you these werewolf officers. >> reporter: a community in tears over the deaths of two of their own. police officers who were just out to grab some lunch. officer alyn beck joined the las vegas metropolitan police in august of 2001. his friends say he was a good person whose goal was to help people. >> alyn was a wonderful person. he was the best of peop

an aroused, responsible citizenry with an optimistic, patriotic agenda getting responsive government, that's what america is about. so it's not all up just to president obama, it's up to us too. >> i think there's two major changes in our political culture today that make it much harder for president obama than it was for president johnson. one is that in the old days they used to stay in washington together on the weekends. they formed friendships over party lines. they weren't rushing home to raise money for these escalating campaign costs, which i still am convinced are the poison in the system today. [applause]. i shouldn't say stupid people, but how much time our congressmen and senators spend raising money and going back to do it rather than doing the business of the country. and television access certify bates it. they want museum on either side, districting exacerbates it. they look at each other with tribal alliances now rather than friendships. i think the bully pulpit makes it harder today. that if the president gives a speech it used to be covered on all three networks. ev

enlightened and make you a better citizen that's what the fairness doctrine is about to create better citizenryso i think part of the polarization that we need we now see today in american politics and in america's media is a direct result of the abrogation of the friend of doctrine back in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven yeah absolutely i couldn't agree with you more yeah i think you're absolutely right and then you know you add that to the fact that in eighty two reagan stopped in force in the sherman act and so media started to grow although there were f.c.c. limitations on that and then in ninety six when clinton signed the telecommunications act he blew up those limitations and now we have these empires and you know we'll be right back well we're going to get into this book hear more of tonight's conversations with a great minds with hedrick smith right after this break. i know c.n.n. the m s n b c news have taken some slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's close and

i think we found that to be true in our project, that the citizenry that we would like to again be communicate with and talking to and those who we talked to out our public meetings, they don't have the authority. they don't have the collective ability to be able to make this decision for the neighborhood or for their senior center because it's so tied up in the halls of government. even if the neighborhood in some sense as we put wanted to come to the table, there are walls and bolts and these regulations have sprouted between us that makes it difficult to move forward on our project. so as we look forward what we would like to see, we believe that the our ways within a new transportation bill, ways within the legal structure to come up with some efforts to revisit these regulations, whether that's a sunsetting innocence or whether there is some statutory community, built in review process that goes back and looks at the regulations, whether it's a bracket style commission or something, i think it needs to be a recognition both in the governmental committee, business committee that were harmi

it enables citizenry to be educated, to cast votes to elect their leaders. today, freedom of speech is threatened, as it has not been in many decades. too many people are impatient and will not listen and debate and persuade. instead, they want to punish and intimidate and silence those with whom they disagree. a corporate executive who opposes same-sex marriage, the same physician president obama held at that time, is to be fired. universities who are supposed to be fostering academic freedom, cancel graduation speeches by speakers that some students find offensive. government officials order other government officials not to deviate from the party line concerning proposed legislation. today, sj resnick and, cut from the same cloth, wood amend the constitution or the first time, to diminish an important right americans have that is contained in the bill of rights. it would cut tax on the most important of these rights, cord free speech about who should be reelected to govern ourselves. the proposed constitutional men would enable government to live in funds

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indiscriminate use of force by civil authorities and the people's republic of china against its own citizenry. our nations executive and legislative branches are united in calling for a swift resolution to the political crisis in china without any further violence. the chinese government must be motivated to enter into a dialogue with the protesters to demonstrate a willingness to consider put all reform consistent with democracy throughout the world. as well as governments throughout the world supporting the president's measured and strong response to the chinese authorities repression and atrocities. the congress and the people of our nation wish to express their unequivocal support to the actions of the chinese demonstrators with sincere hope that their quest for democracy may not go unrecognized. >> esther speaker, i yield two minutes to the distinguished gentleman from new york. >> i think the distinguished chairman for yielding to me. the huge demonstration in nonviolent protests over the last several weeks have proven that the people of china have a passion for democracy that is strong