there are no regrets on citizens united. i'm not sure about what might happen if guns comes up again but, i would be very surprised if they backtracked on the district of columbia gun decision. they won't probably backtrack on the fundamental holding that it is an individual right. >> there is a question of what that means. >> right. i think it will be very interesting to see what they say on questions that are coming about gun regulation. and what kind of scrutiny the court should give to gun regulations. so, no, i think this is, this court, not many regrets yet. >> what surprised you the most that you uncovered as you were -- you've got a few interesting tidbits here. >> you should tell me what they are. >> what surprised you the most? some back stories? take citizens united, for instance, how, as the case was reargued as we know. >> right. >> didn't seem to be all that significant on the first round. in fact it was on nobody's list as one of the major cases of that term. so what happened there if. >> i think that was very

people hear citizens united.ow it allows unlimited political corporate funds, but they don't know how it came about, can you fill us in? >> it's not just political action committees. it's political spending. it's electioneering. it allows organizations that were previously prohibited on spending money. >> john: but they can give directly to campaigns. >> what citizens united did do is allow political spending right out of the coffers which is very hard to track is other money that is spent politically and a freeded up a lot of that have money and it's impossible to track. >> john: and we have hillary clinton hate to thank for this. >> citizens united, an extremist right wing organization called " "hillary the movie." it was a take down of hillary clinton. the entire intent was to cast the campaign finance laws that were passed in the 90s. >> cenk: they didn't do it for art, really? >> citizens united group had a long history of doing political politically motivated commercials. they were the group behind the will

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and we need political entrepreneurs. >> this is where citizens united comes in. it allows the giving to on political parties monies. i'm not personally a tea party fan, but i felt that the fact we can get ideas from progressive groups on the left, those that can challenge democratic and republican parties. so doesn't have to be these two with their current views only. there could be some competition that is a good thing. the next time that you read the bashing of citizens united, at least think about competitive element that it introduces. >> with that thought of competition is a good thing, we now open it up to questions. we have a microphone. >> a lot of times change is spread by either a crisis in this country and other times technology advancements help. how do you see those playing a role in the future? >> it is a great point. where the country has risen, there have been economic crisis is, one of the reasons we were for the rule changes is if i can be candid to manufacture a crisis -- politicians have very difficult times of dealing with long-term present v

where if money wanted to get in they couldn't get it it was just one method or another method citizens unitedin the attending cases with that provided another method the super pacs the system though on a systemic basis has a problem in the sense that people. you want something can give money and get what they want that's what has to be picks not necessarily who's giving in terms of citizens who are trying to get something back what form they're using a super pac a five twenty seven whatever it is so citizens united i think is probably a little bit overblown in terms of presentation of the problem the amount of money again i have never witnessed money that wanted to get into the system that couldn't get into the system my entire life and so how do we get it out of the system well i think what we do is we the legislation we're working on is barring those special interest people who are properly registered lobbyists or their clients from giving any money politically on a federal basis super pacs campaign committees candidates whatever it is basically reduce them down to a constitutional minimum

where if money wanted to get in they couldn't get it it was just one method or another method citizens unitedin the of attending cases with that provided another method the super pacs the system though on a systemic basis has a problem in the sense that people who want something can give money and get what they want that's what has to be picks not necessarily who's giving in terms of citizens who are trying to get something back what form they're using a super pac a five twenty seven whatever it is so citizens united i think is probably a little bit overblown in terms of presentation of the problem the amount of money again. i've never witnessed money that wanted to get into the system that couldn't get into the system my entire life and so how do we get it out of the system well i think what we do is we the legislation we're working on is barring those special interest people who are properly registered lobbyists or their clients from giving any money politically on a federal basis super pacs campaign committees candidates whatever it is basically reduce them down to a constitutional minimum

about citizens united which obviously granted to corporations person a do you think that that's overblowndo you think that it did as much damage as people say in terms of opening the floodgates i really don't because i've been involved in politics really actively on the federal level since the one nine hundred seventy s. and i don't remember an election ever any election where if money wanted to get in they couldn't get it it was just one method or another method citizens united in the of attending cases with that provided another method the super pacs the system though on a systemic basis has a problem in the sense that people who want something can give money and get what they want that's what has to be picks not necessarily who's giving in terms of citizens who are trying to get something back what form they're using a super pac a five twenty seven whatever it is so citizens united i think is probably a little bit overblown in terms of presentation of the problem the amount of money again i have never witnessed money that wanted to get into the system that couldn't get into the system

that is what citizens united was about. i spend most of life professionally representing corporations that are involved in the delivery of news to people, broadcasters, televi sion stations, museums. no one ever thought that the corporate form was what they used, public broadcasting system the corporation for "the new york times" that no one ever imagined but because of that they would not receive full fledged highest level first amendment protection so that is rather was coming from and you are right there is some conflict between that with my liberal friends and more liberal political and social inclinations. but in this area there is nothing more important than to put that stuff aside, really what side you are on with the ideological but battle in washington when one talks about the subpoena to be served recently it goes to court to to get a search warrant to search the home telephone numbers of the fox news correspondent in washington to tell a federal judge that the correspondent is likely and guilty of violating the e

that is what citizens united stemmed from. that is what citizens in that it was about. most of my life professionally representing corporations that are involved in the delivery of news to people, newspapers, broadcasters, television stations, regimes and the like. no one ever thought that because the corporate form was what they used, the public broadcasting system, the corporation, the new york times was a corporation. no one ever imagined. because that was so there would not receive full fledged high-level, highest level first amendment protections. so that was where i was coming from. certainly right that there is some conflict between most of my liberal friends and indeed some of my liberal political and social inflammations. but i think in this area there is nothing more important than trying to put the stuff aside, really try to put aside what side your on in the ideological battles of washington. i mean, that is why when one talks about the subpoena being served recently by the obama administration, the obama administration goes to court and gets a search warran

and another that might surprise you is why citizens united is one of the best things that happened to the american political system in a long time, despite what you may read in the news media. >> thank you so much for what you shared. tim, would you mind sharing a little more from the japan chapter? there's quite a bit there that is also relevant to their interests. >> sure. >> nothing is boring in the book. there's no white bread. all -- >> all peanut butter and jelly. sorry. >> that's good. so, the chapter on japan, for me, was personal because i was stationed in japan in the military, and i'd been stationed in south korea. so, i had a perspective on how economies grow when they're trying to catch up. my dissertation was about that. what has really y been fascinating when you look al japan's trajectory, the predicts and assessments were that japan caught up to america in the 1990s, which were wrong. the good dat we have at our fingertips now, and data called you can compare one country's incomes in terms of what they can purchase. japan never broke past 90%, and it settled into an 8

successful movement in america right now is the movement to overturn citizens united to get big goes way beyond that because citizens united ratified to doctrine this really goes back to nine hundred seventy six and well if they are going to go back to eight hundred fifteen you know the darkness but you know these two doctrines both of which were invented by the supreme court no legislature ever voted for these that money is somehow the same thing as speech and the corporations should have rights of the constitution as if they were persons and this is the amazing thing and this is a real crisis of our media not of our people the people are doing fine and in fact hundreds of republicans are stepping up it doesn't the republicans it's a little slow video just got. sixteen states have petition congress using their right to petition for the redress of grievances they petition congress to overturn citizens united to make big moves in this area sometimes to go further because five hundred communities big towns los angeles places like that have said we have to move on this issue if i can im

in the rest of the rest of the news the fight to undo the disastrous citizens united supreme court decision and to remove the corrupting influence of money from politics has reached a new milestone five hundred resolutions have been passed across america that have attacked the notion that corporations are people with constitutionally protected rights or that money is somehow magically speech or both but despite the way of a support across this nation to overturn citizens united and all the promises upon which it is based there is still a great deal of work that needs to be done in order to achieve that goal joining me more to talk about the battle lies ahead is david cobb national spokesperson for move to amend david welcome back. thank you tom it's always a pleasure to be with you on this program thanks for joining us let's begin by stipulating that the problem isn't just rolling back citizens united. well timed you know it i know it and most importantly viewers of the tom hartman program and the big picture know it because corporations aren't just exercising power through money in electio

if we see a more enlightened and wise in judgment supreme court, we will see citizens united reverse and returned back to a more honest for election. -- a more honest election. i do not think we have apartheid in our country. but we do have some divisions. >> can i say something on that issue? during the last one year, i have read three books. level,"end "the spirit by wilkinson. it is good for everybody. "price of any quality." -- inequality." nowadays when i speak in my own country, i say we do not need rogue capitalism. we do not need any sort of socialism. we need responsible market economics. it is a nordic country. i hope some of you read "economies" a few months ago, and one subtitle said, if you want to experience the american dream, go to sweden. they could have mentioned any of us in the nordic countries. [laughter] i have a couple of questions for mr. brahami. can you explain what is the holdup on geneva. is it russia and the u.s. disagreeing on the invite list, or is it the u.s. trying to help shift the balance on the ground to favor the opposition? do you envision any so

so is this is this mark the first chip in citizens united the first time that we've seen a federal court say in a really substantial aggressive way what human rights for corporations what a crazy well it could be that i think this may end up with the supreme court it may take a circuit split another so a federal circuit court may have to rule on a first before there's a certain you know they're basically the for the first amendment the free exercise clause the establishment clause progeny cases in that way and the free and the expression and free speech has always been basically you know distinct there's hasn't been a lot of people who just decide first amendment rights it has to do more with which party either isn't all either if you're a person you either get all the rights you get another or that it definitely would go into a new conception of the per person hood argument in maybe a different way for there to be conceptual arguments from a different tack that that gives. the go ahead ok if it was important i was just going to you know at that point if you are giving religious ri

decision in citizens united.e have to call it. >> you can't target. >> it's against the law, buddy. >> judge jeanine: coming up, the world waits for birth of the royal baby in england. we're going to bring you the latest developments, ie, did her water break? don't forget to vote in our instant poll. did rolling stone cross the line by putting the boston bomber on its cover. facebook or tweet me @judge jeanine. >>> the great kate wait continues. royal watchers in england and around the globe have their eyes trained on st. mary's hospital where kate middleton is reportedly going to give birth to the next british royal. with me is the author and royal watcher and commentator imogen lloyd weber. i understand that kate is going to be giving birth at the same hospital where her husband, william, was born, of course, where diana gave birth to him. do we know if she's at the hospital yet? >> we will be told when she is inside the hospital. she's giving birth in st. mary's. that's the plan, anyway. that's indeed where di

communicating overseas the united states believes it can take whatever it likes if you're not a united states citizen or there's a greater probability that you're not a united states citizen and analyzing this data data is going into data stores all kinds of things going on so that they can analyze data and see what they might find . on the kind of mass trawling it. exhibition so i think it's pretty outrageous i don't think it would stand up in europe human rights courts i think people would very quickly see that you cannot just take everybody's data on the basis that some people might be guilty that's effectively putting the whole population under suspicion and that is how you put everyone into feeling that they're watched and put some kind of fear an atmosphere of fear. and everybody has profound consequences for and democracy if people feel that they're under constant surveillance and under constant threat of their private information being abused ok t.j. i think everyone knows security is important but are these programs proportionate to the threat. well we don't really know the threat i mean eve

that you know what warrants but if you're not a united states citizen the rights that united states citizens have don't apply to you that's the loophole basically a citizen of europe a member of the european parliament can be treated in exactly the same way as a north korean body rageous t.j. i add in their definition of bad behavior a just and illegal ok definition of adversary i think this is what jim is getting at. who's the adversary or something can be outrageous and not necessarily be illegal so that's why i do have i do what's right it's not illegal for the canadian to be holding snowed in calling snowden a whistleblower what he years or somebody who was working for the government took a vow of secrecy then saw a policy he didn't like and decided to reveal it to the world that. we do know is what he did was illegal and i don't think whether you work for the government in brussels or great britain or anywhere else you want every single individual who works for the government making their own public policy on what they like and don't like going to they don't like it they will reveal it

and another that might surprise you why citizens united is one of the best thing to happen to the american political system in the long time. maybe we should stop. >> it is fascinating but thank you for what you have shared so far. tim, will you share from the other chapter that is relevant to their interest. >> the only way i disagree with him is that nothing is boring in the book. [laughter] it is all peanut butter and jelly. [laughter] >> chapter on japan was personal because i was stationed in the military in south korea so i had a perspective from hall economies grow when they tried to catch up. that was my dissertation. what has been fascinating to look at the japan trajectory is the predictions and the assessments is that japan, up to america. the good data that we have now we really compare one countries income with what they can purchase but it never broke past 90% and settled into the 80% ratio of gdp per capita and america is setting that. that 80% level is the same that we have been hovering around in france and germany so there is the equilibrium that japan found we are both s

recalled moments from the state of the union address in which president obama criticized the citizens united ruling and justice alito thought he was mischaracterized. this is a guy who doesn't have a poker face. >> speaking of poker face, justice o'connor was in the court last week for some of the decisions. i was able to see her face across the room. she had a complete poker face. joan, you wrote a biography of her. how is she doing? >> she has on occasion used a cane. she is 83. she keeps a busy travel schedule. she is involved in her work and talks about alzheimer's, which her husband died of. published a little book earlier this year. during the reading of the texas affirmative action case were picked up where her michigan ruling left a decade ago, she sat with her hands clasped and not showing her feelings at all. that was a 7-1 ruling that did not dismantle or hurt her majority opinion. a lot has yet to play out and how they would interpret it. i tried to get an interview with her afterwards. she said, no. [laughter] she is the kind of person who will eventually say what she thinks abo

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. >> first of all, let me say my provision was struck down by the supreme court, citizens united. so i've been a strong advocate and proponent-- >> stephen: you don't believe i should have been able to have a superpac. >> exactly. ( laughter ) you're absolutely right. >> stephen: but corporations are people. >> how ask that help-- >> stephen: corporations are people. >> how does that help the campaigns of today? has it benefitted-- has it improved. >> the supreme said money is speech, madam. >> unfortunately, they-- they ruled that way. but it is regrettable for the country in terms of the impact it's had on elections. has it improved the outcome? >> stephen: for me it did. i raised a lot of money. over $1 million. >> to the detriment of the country that-- unfortunately, that we've moved in that direction. >> stephen: i agree. barack obama was elected. that didn't turn out well. >> no, it's not necessarily the case in terms of we're going to have different views. and people do get elected. but you know what? you have to work with those who get elected. and you have to work on both

the citizens united supreme court case, which basically took off all the campaign finance restrictions. i got to hope and pray that the supreme court realized they

the moment from the state of the union address, in which when president obama criticized the citizens united ruling, the just i allee to thought he mischaracterized and caught on tv saying not true. i thought it showed it was a guy who, you know, -- as i said, doesn't have a poker face. >> speaking of poker face, justice o'connor was in the court last week some of the decisions. she a completely poker face as a decision came down. joan, you wrote a biography of her, how is she doing? are you keeping up with her at all. i saw she used a cane. she has on occasion used a cane. she's 83 now. she came a lot in june. she keeps a very busy travel schedule. she involves very much in the work, and still talk about alzheimer's, which is what her husband died of. and remains pretty active and published a little book earlier this year, but during the reading of the texas affirmative case, which picked up where had her michigan ruling left a decade ago, she just sat with her hands clasped not showing her feelings at all. as everybody remembering it was a 7-1 ruling that didn't dismantle or hurt her major

passed a case that uses logic similar to the citizen's united logic in attributing corporate first amendment rights and free speech to companies. obviously i disagree with that opinion but it's a controlling nineth district opinion and i am asking for your support. >> i am happy to support this two years ago when it came before us and once again -- what is it? twice a year and you see piles and piles of yellow pages in front of every building in my district and i know throughout the city. i know the folks hold me it's like a dump truck and pores thousands of the books there and they should be able for people who want them, but just the dumping of yellow pages that happens throughout the city it's hostile to the environment. it's bad for our recycling system and i just -- i strongly disagree with the thinking that this type of pub occasion is deserving of what the court says protections and the court has done this to the speech and it is what it is. we are still bound by the laws interpreted by the courts so i am reluctantly supporting this. supervisor kim. >>i want to concur for the supervis

and remember, you can fly citizens united anonymously. applause ] speaking of bad supreme court decisions, voting rights one. all right. what a week it was for americans. guess who i got an e-mail from. congresswoman linda sanchez from the great state of california where marriage equality lives now. hey, steph wanted to know how great it feels when the supreme court gets it right. sometimes you kick ass on the hill. today moved the country forward was a big ole step for equality. congresswoman linda sanchez. >> loretta is her sister. also in congress. >> stephanie: i know that. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: guess who else says -- nationalizing gay marriage now inevitable? charles krauthammer. [ ♪ nah nah nah nah nah ♪ ] he didn't mean it in a good way. >> he meant it in an icky way. >> i guess it's inevitable. like shingles. >> he looks like the kind of person that gets shingles. >> anyone who's had chickenpox -- >> stephanie: "the stephanie miller show" apologizes. we have no information on whether charles krauthammer has ever had shingles.

the citizens united supreme court case, which basically took off all the campaign finance restrictions. i got to hope and pray that the supreme court realized they muffed on that one. >> it used to be that those of us in the middle who prided

go back to originalism and you would never written the opinion citizens united absolutely. one of the things that we've been watching this word snowden saga the whole n.s.a. spying thing and. it raises the question how how did we become the country that people flee from. one to engaging in. dialogues with the press we used to be the country that people fled to. well you know basically in the snowden and many other whistleblowers of late from n.s.a. cia people like tom drake and. syria. these are blowing the whistle on crimes. crimes for example of snooping without warrants dragnet millions of americans email and telephone crimes of incarceration of people without charges of crimes of torture crimes of wars that have been declared killing and injuring millions of people under corporate contracting crimes you know corporate crime and contracts in iraq and elsewhere and who's on the run not the criminals it's not the wrong doers they're pursuing the right doers the truth sayers so that that's when you know that we've lost it in terms of any kind of balance in our country that

likes if you're not a united states citizen or there's a greater probability that you're not a united states citizen and i'm allies in this data is going into data stores all kinds of things going on so that they can analyze and pick that data and see what they might find on the kind of mass trawling it. exhibition so i think it's pretty outrageous i don't think it would stand up in europe human rights courts i think people would very quickly see that you cannot just take everybody's data on the basis that some people might be guilty that's effectively putting the whole population under suspicion and that is how you put everyone into feeling that they're watched and put some kind of fear an atmosphere of fear. around everybody has profound consequences for democracy if people feel that they're under constant surveillance and under constant threat of their private information being abused ok t.j. i think everyone knows security is important but are these programs proportionate to the threat. where we don't really know the threat i mean everyone has their own bias i have a bias as an am

the citizens united supreme court case, which basically took off all the campaign finance restrictions. i got to hope and pray that the supreme court realized they