in fact, as university of chicago law professor said in the new york times citizens united is on every liberals list of opinions that ought to go. other liberal justice could allow them to force americans to comply with laws that violate the deeply held religious themes. for example, a new justice could provide the 5th vote to overturn the recent hobby lobby decision which recognize the right of owners to resist laws on religious vows such as obama care contraception mandate. we all know, of course, the free-speech protections are being eroded and deleted in this country. you know, on college campuses across the country speeches and being protected is a cisco it always did and muzzle anybody who disagrees with it. incredibly important precedents under the first amendment establishment clause, of course i'm talking about supreme court cases allowing prayer at town hall meetings or permitting low income parents to receive public school vouchers to defray the cost of the child's private school including religious schools, another liberal justice degree literally the 1st and 2nd amendments

with the citizens united is on every list of opinion. and they would not be far behind. and other the growth justice -- liberal justice to hold their deeply held religious view. to provide that his hope to recognize the right of the odors as a corporation such as obamacare contraception mandate. but that free-speech protection and on college campuses across the country because of the speaker's view point to many people today want to shut down or anybody that disagrees. it is an incredibly important precedent to be at risk. we're looking forward to the supreme court cases of town hall meetings for parents to receive public school vouchers for the cost of the child's private school including religious groups and of course, another liberal justices agreed nearly that he or she said they are not in the constitution at all. and even reasonable restrictions on abortion is through the democratic process would be swept away. and those on the partial birth abortions but the partial birth abortion is that practice that the crashes the nine foreign baby school killing is still in t

citizens united was 5-4. there are some other things that maybe you can do that would marginally help. but, you need a constitutional amendment. we should put it in now. every candidate for president now has endorsed it. i was just reading yesterday, bush said that he would eliminate citizens united. donald trump, every stage he makes -- speech he makes, i do not want your money, i want your vote. and you know hillary clinton and bernie sanders, they are for it. we should have a constitutional amendment. ask every candidate, are you for it? do you want to deal with this issue? you should do the same for every member of congress. if we did not pass it quickly, we could start a movement. talkse me, bernie sanders about a revolution, we need a revolution in this issue now. oft: we will do canvassing the former members about the constitutional amendment and other ideas as you indicated, there are other possibilities that might be pursued. i would like to get to those before we go to questions from the audience. c

weren't registering with the federal elections committee as they were supposed to do, and then citizens united comes along and what citizen is united was, was a movie about hillary clinton made during the 2008 campaign, and it said that about her because it was against her, and they went to the fec and said we went to know if we're going to be put in jail if we publish this and that's what the whole case was about. i have to point out the irony. when mccain ran for president do you know how much money he had available to spend? because he is a taxpayer and used public financing? >> guest: i'm sure it wasn't enough. >> host: $84 million. and barack obama, 745 million because he didn't take the tax-free money. so i'm giving this information to see how the political -- the republicans' political veins were exploding. we have to figure this out. now, i was at oral argument -- i have to tell you -- when the first time it was argued and here's scalia, and scalia says to the solicitor general, wait a minute. i don't know. if i write a book, 400 pages and on every page about hillary clinton i tell wha

corporations have spent almost no money since citizens united. the problem with citizens united, at least the way it's been interpreted by courts is that it's given individuals an unlimited ability to spend whatever they want on corporate -- on political expenditures. and that is the big problem. >> the question still stands private bigness as i've described it, not just meaning corporate bigness, but concentrations of wealth. >> i go back to my observation that one of the most admirable chak terroristics of louis bran disis his capacity of growth. it's a snapshot, a process, a moving picture. something like citizens united implicates three things that brandeis felt strongly about -- speech, but also judicial restraint, deference to legislation, and the effective operation of democracy. and i think that brandeis, were he in this millennium to address the issues and citizens united, would have evolved to the view that one, substantial deference is due to the congress and the president who share a responsibility for constitutional interpretation, a

but it doesn't stop with citizens united.his court has voted on the side of corporations on the interest of workers, unions, consumers, and the general public in case after case. it's made it harder for consumers to band together to sue a corporation, even if they are collectively suffering from corporate behavior. so 2 million comcast subscribers in philadelphia were told they each had to hire a lawyer if they wanted to sue for fairer prices. 1.5 million people, working at walmart, each had to hire a lawyer if they wanted to sue for sex zrims. that's a burden that the vast majority of people cannot afford. i know this sounds a little technical, but it points to an alarming trend. the court used to, in the 20th century, anyway, protect the little guy against the rich and powerful. more and more, it's doing the opposite. protecting the rich and powerful against the little guy. one study found that between 2009 and 2012, the one party most likely to convince the party to hear a case out of all the top petitioner from every part

-- citizens united. [applause] and when we talk about the economy today, everybody here understands that we live in a competitive, global economy. we need the best educated workforce in the world. it is incomprehensive to me and again, i ask you to think outside of the box -- incomprehensive that hundreds of thousands of young people, qualified young people who want to go to college are unable to do so because their families lack the money. that's pretty crazy stuff. and that is why in the year of 2016 when we talk about public education, it's not good enough to talk about first grade through 12th grade. we have to got to make public colleges and universities tuition free. cheers and applause] is this a radical idea? i don't think so. germany does it. scandinavia does it. they are investing in their young people. investing in their future. i am criticized for saying -- well, i think this is an important step forward. i think we have to substantially reduce the burden of student debt. and people say you w

comes along and with citizens united was was a movie about hillary clinton made during the 2008 campaign, and it said that about her because it was against her and they went to the fec into simply want to know if we are going to be put in jail if we published this and that's what the whole case was about and i have to point out the irony when mccain ran for president do you know how much he had available to spend because he was a tax payer and public financing? >> guest: i'm sure it wasn't enough. >> host: $84 million. barack obama 745 million. so you can see i'm getting this information to see how the political come help of republican political danes were exploding like we've got to figure this out some way or another. now, i was at an oral argument i just have to tell you the first time that it was argued i was there for the second when the tube at the first one he was justice scalia and he says to the solicitor general to wait a minute i i want to know if i write a book 400 pages and every page i tell what happened in real life but on the last page if i say don't vote for hil

supreme court but push it to come up as soon as possible. >> one of the things citizens united gave rise to is super pacs. i've been surprised by what a disaster they have been. literally hundreds of millions of dollars lit on fire. $145 million to get jeb bush, four delegates. are you surprised how seemingly ineffectual that kind of big money has been thus far? >> i think that's a wrong characterization of the situation. the political world is changing rapidly. what the establishment has learned, what the democratic accomplishment, the media establishment is the world is not what they thought it was. with the middle class disappearing, people working longer hours for low wages, people working for the future of their children, you're seeing a lot of discontent at the grass roots level all over this country. trump is tapping anger in a very destructive way. we're trying to bring people together to create an economy that works for all of us, not just wall street. to underestimate the long term impact of citizens united, of the koch brothers, of sheldon adelson would be a serious

and vegetations by private people or corporations, i have always been puzzled why critics of citizens united get so upset. so we would not say recognizing the right to abortion but we would never say you can spend money on abortion. civics is in united say is said to have a right to free speech that is when they're really wanted to protect that speech and of how we say you can spend money can you get away with that? just like you cannot spend any. >> the democrats did not like this. >> because the study showed that citizens united would have a worse effect for support for the democrats because unions spend more money than corporations. they got such a burr under the idea but also labor unions. >> host: even though the president. >> to be allowed foreign corporations to spend without limits. but who was with the? and becket was murdered so who will win the from citizens united? the irs. >> so we have an article by a lawyer for verse state legislator representing those for the nonprofit status from the irs for these kinds of purposes we're talking about. in to slow them down without explanatio

the same debates we are having over citizens united now. the rule to break the idea you needed to be a property owner in order to vote. it was a move to enfranchise white men without property and affect the working class. it was led not by citizen movements but by canny, suave political insiders like martin van buren in new york. one state senator said i bet i can get van buren to give a straight answer. he said mr. van buren does the sun rise in the east? and he said i am not awake that early so i cannot say. he won the right to vote without owning property. john roanoke fought against adding to the voting roles and his model was he said i am an ari aris aristocrat and i hate liberty but want equality. the united states was the most profound democracy and there were mass political parties with really high voter turnout. democraci democracies were a fad and people understood more people were left out. the next breakthrough was during and after the civil war. a war when hundreds of thousands of african-americans served the union army and in

. >> the disaster rouse citizens united -- the disastrous citizens united. >> it's weird because citizensations bought all the elections that occurred? i didn't notice that. mitt romney won or carly fiorina was able to buy her way to success. it doesn't work like that. >> in terms of free speech to honor justice cal *. antonin scalia. he went out on a limb where flag burning is protected. protected. he side on that case. liberals on college campuses are trying to crack down on our speech this very day. john: corporations saying please don't regulate me out of business ought to be a form free speech, too. >> corporations should be able to say we are worried about a bernie sanders presidency. we have this idea that certain times of political speech are not protected. that's the point of the first amendment, is to protect people when they need to say something about their elected leader. >> free speech is dealing with the most repugnant speech. john: on social media i asked for your ideas. he did walk this one back. >> reassuring. on twitter daniel said making america great again. unless don

and then citizens united comes along. the citizens united was a movie about hillary clinton made during the 2008 campaign. it was against her. but to the fcc in several months now for going to be put in jail if they published it. i thought the whole case is about. i have to point out some of the irony. when mccain ran for president committee know you know how much money he had available to spend because he's a taxpayer financing? >> guest: i'm sure it wasn't enough. >> host: $84 million. barack obama 705 million. so you can see in giving this information to us the how the political republican political fans were exploding. we've got to figure this out one way or another. i just have to tell you the first time i was there for the second one, too. the first time it was argued and scully is said to the solicitor general, wait a minute, if i write a book and every page about hillary clinton, but on the last page if i say don't vote for hillary, is that bad? you know the solicitor general said? yes, just as silly. -- justice s

theyey agree on the citizen's united supreme court decision that governors campaign finance should be over turned. and both felt that donald trump's idea of a wall is not a good idea and bernie sanderer calling it vulgar and hillary clinton saying that it is probably something that wil never be approved any way. but, once again, there are things as we mentioned that they did fire back on each other. about. let's go ahead and take a listen. >> tonight, i am looking forward to the opportunity to discuss how we knocked down the bearriers that stand in the way of people getting ahead and staying ahead. starting with the economic ones. my focus is on more good paying jobs, wit rising incomes for families. and how we prevent corporations, from taking jobs out of our country, by em posing an exit tax and making them pay back any tax breaks that they have gotten. >> i am running for president of the united states, because given the crisis facing our country, it is just too late for establishment politics and establishmen economics to over turn, this disastrous citizen's united supreme court d

this ties in, thoughts on citizens united, will it be overturned? spee2 i guess the answer to whether that will be overturned depends on who was on the court. i think this is a very key moment for a lot of big issues and citizens united is certainly one of him.w d hillary clinton said she will appoint someone who will overturn it. bernie sanders said the same. i don't know donald trump has said anything about one where the other. he claims to be self funding, i don't know if that is an improvement to have to have the leaders running in order to make it to the presidency on their own or if it's better to have billionaires behind the scenes earmarking, either way, as far as i'm concerned it's a huge problem for the country. both democrats and republicans,o and i think the lack of transparency for the company because whether it's dark money like the name of this book is going through, it's a hugeof dol problem. there's millions and millions of dollars of secret money sloshing through american politics at this point.with >> host: contrary to predictions

>> one thing i do is get rid of citizens united, completely. i think it should be back to one person, one vote. and for years we lived under a rule that corporations couldn't give money to political candidates, but i think we have to go back to something. i think getting rid of caucuses wouldn't be bad. i spent a lot of time on the air on "hardball" talking against voter suppression, this new republican love of i.d. cards. a partisan advantage. i think caucuses are very complicated and they only draw a small percentage of people to them. they're not democratic. so no voter i.d. cards and no more caucuses, just vote. and let the people who have always voted to vote. we should encourage people to vote and we discouraging them with citizens united. they do see a tremendous number of ads, even trump was right about that. all you see are ads, and they're all negative. they don't help people vote. they just suppress the vote. i would get rid of everything that suppresses the vote. i would get rid of the caucuses and get rid of the voter i.d. rules. i

of cases that their money supported organizations the funded a number of cases including the citizens united case. there has been campaign finance limits for a long time. a push to get the law revisited by the court. you can definitely see the influence of koch funded organizations in generating cases. >> host: a lot in the media koch brothers are active in criminal justice reform. >> guest: they funded the judicial crisis network. to t -- keep the democrats from obama specifically from naming or confirming a new supreme court justice. the thing that is amazing, the reason i hope people get a chance to look get the book including the charge in the front is so much money on so many levels. you practically need to be a forensic accountant to follow it. >> host: this is the chart and there's another one in the back of the book. here is the charge on the opening cover of "dark money: the hidden history of the billionaires behind the rise of the radical right". it is where the money goes, the groups that are involved, you can't figure this out for yourself and there's a similar chart that continu

people are disgusted with this citizens united supreme court decision that allows billionaires to buy elections. so i know that people feel strongly about those issues. >> right. >> but in terms of putting together a campaign, what i have to ascertain is can we build the kind of grassroots movement that we need? can we raise, not as much money, obviously, as our opponents, but enough money to run a strong campaign? >> isn't it ironic that you're the preeminent voice against the pernicious influence of money and politics and yet money and politics may be the hurdle? >> look, let me be very clear and say this with sadness -- >> yeah. >> the koch brothers are the second wealthiest family in america. they are worth about $85 billion. they will spend at least $900 million on this campaign. you have other billionaire families who will spend very widely. and it may well be, and i don't want to frighten people, it may well be a moment where they are too powerful, they have too much money. >> it may be impossible. >> it may be. they own the country, they own the economy. they are about to own,

i will appoint supreme court justices who reversed citizens united.he supreme court, i am 100%supportive of president obama's rights -- right to nominate a justice. we are also going to fight hard to make sure that we get comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship. we will change what doesn't work in the v.a. because our veterans deserve nothing less than world-class health care. we will not let the republicans privatize the v.a. and we will not let them privatize social security. [applause] hillary clinton: i want the young people here to believe and know that the social security trust fund will be there for you when you get to the age where you can draw from it. i will keep working for sensible gun safety measures. [applause] hillary clinton: i am absolutely amazed at the refusal of the gun lobby to work to try to protect lives. you can do that in a constitutional manner, make no mistake about it. our country did it for about 200 years. we have to get back to doing it together. let me say a quick word about foreign relations and nat

finance system that allows dillion errors to buy elections together we are going to overturn citizens united. them especially front runner donald trump just two days before ohio's primary the democrat make hopeful have too many young black people dying after counters with police like tamir rice just 12 years old will playing at a park we have a broken criminal justice system we will have to reform that criminal justice most came to support one candidate others the we will have the power to create a government that works for all of us not just the 1 percent. thank you all. much thank you and god bless you. hillary clinton he's been friends with her. he also remembers bernie sanders back when he ran for president right now no endorsement for him both hillary clinton went down to this down the street to osu these candidates know all high will be tuesday. the road to the white house going to the state of ohio. through ohio. hillary clinton also covered down here in northeast ohio picking an unscheduled appearance in highland those this morning. who went two for strong family mente she also spoke

and citizens united has replaced bush v. gore as a bit of a rallying cry at least. and yet bush v. gore endures for many of us. just when i think people have stopped thinking about it or stopped asking about it, i'll give a speech somewhere, just like last summer in connect where the first question was, and what about that bush v. gore? so it endures and mainly from folks on the left. but we're here today to take into account both sides and look at not just what happened back then but how the ruling has reverberated through the years. and joining me, i'll start with my immediate left here. judith browne-dianis, co-director of the advance project. she was on the ground in florida and ever since to ensure voting rights. next to her, rick hassan, university of california irvine law professor, and a prolific writer on election law. just this morning, crack of dawn, he sent two more pieces that he had just written commemorating bush v. gore and i think probably your name comes up second with that if we google it. along with justice scalia saying please get over it. then pam carlin, co-d

gore opinion that citizens do not have a right to vote for president of the united states, and what that means for us as citizens since the case has been decided. how that has been reflected in aws passed by congress. what, if anything, we can do about this reality that we do not have a right to vote. joan: do you want to start? pamela: the backdrop to this is the supreme court, in a case that upheld the exclusion from of women declared itself , unanimously of the opinion that a constitution does not confer a right of suffrage on anyone. you cannot deny people the right to vote on account of race, gender, or inability to pay a i actually think that, as is true of a number of rights not enumerated in the constitution directly, we do, from long practice, have a constitutional right to vote. a different supreme court would recognize that and enforce it in the way the supreme court recognized that right when it held in harper that the virginia poll tax was no good. for a lot of this is changing the public discussion about the right to vote. that changes who gets elected. who gets elected det

we do that by fighting for a supreme court that will overturn citizens united and get the dark now outof the political system. and need to take a hard look at our government and doing whatever it -- where there's gridlock, we should break it. this is what democrats did with the nuclear option. and we broke a logjam of historic proportions and enabled the confirmation of 96 traditional nominees, leaving judicial emergencies across the country. they wanted to get rid of the nlrb. our guiding principle should be responding to the needs of hard working americans. if our government institutions have outgrown certain norms and tradition wes should evolve to meet the needs of the modern era, inspire a new generation of americans to get involved in public service. we can only affect the best people by showing we are committed to in the new ideas and real results with real people. most of all, we should reuss the urge to weather down foreign policy solutions. we should resist the urge to move to the right. a few months ago i met with the new governor of louisiana. i asked him, the governor elec

. >> host: professor claire, did the citizens united case contribute to the downfall of the parties opening up money from other sources? >> guest: one of the problems with that case, there's a massive increase in negativity and advertisements for example. in the media coverage of candidates. we have found that over time campaign coverage, advertisements have become increasingly negative. this helps to fuel the turn towards independence. in fact independence. in fact we find that americans read about negative issues there are more likely to call themselves independents. >> caller: i enjoy the coverage, what i like the most is when they mentioned that we need to bring the issues to the public and the media. i have turned my tv off and stopped watching even c-span, happen to be watching c-span to tonight and was really pleased to find you had this festival going on with this discussion. i am a democrat and i have volunteered in many, many elections and campaigns. the reason i don't want to sign in my yard, i don't want to volunteer anymore is because it doesn't do any good. money, you waste yo

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virtually unanimously, the supreme court upheld in the citizens united ruling. having said that, there are some great ideas here. that includes the idea that they should allow contributions to be tax-deductible. i think that is something that is of interest to republicans as well and i would use that as an example. a tea party reform group called take back our republic support tax credits. i think that's a strong possible area of common ground. i also agree it is way overdue to let parties coordinate with their candidates. i think that is something you can an act today. i know there are dangers to that in there probably would be people who argue against it but i think a lot of lawmakers would rally around that. we could narrow the definition of federal activity by state parties, but with the caveat that it needs to be done with extreme caution so federal elected officials don't turn state parties into personal slush funds away they did before mccain-feingold. in closing, i would say nature we talked not just to one another, but voters in this process. i think th

we've got to overturn citizens united -- >> wait a minute. i just think it's worth pointing out that the leaders of the fossil fuel industry, the koch brothers, have just paid to put up an ad praising senator sanders. there are a lot of different powerful interests in washington. i've taken them on. i took on the drug companies, i took on the insurance companies. before there was something called obamacare, there was something called hillary care and i worked really hard to get comprehensive health care reform and they beat me. >> we're going to move on -- >> i have a long record of standing up to special interests and i will continue to do so. >> we're going to move on to the next question. [ audience boos ] >> you have 30 seconds. >> there is nobody in the united states congress who has taken on the koch brothers, who want to destroy social security, medicare, medicaid and virtually every federal program passed since the 1930s more that bernie sanders. and i am proud that the gentleman who is head of goldman sachs, now, he didn't give me $2

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so in looking at citizens united and the issues raised by that decision, how do you tackle that and what do you say to issues of campaign finance? >> well, i don't like the idea that billionaires pick who is going to be president of the united states. i think we need an overhaul of our whole campaign finance system. okay? [applause] you know what? i really would like if we could figure out how we could limit the amount and just force the ability to attract a whole lot of smaller contributions. i don't know what the limit ought to be but i will tell you that in my sense, we've got to have a reasonable plan that when we put it in we don't turn around a year later and say that's a lousy plan. that's what happened on these other campaign finance reforms. it wouldn't be my number one issue. my number one issue is this issue of jobs. and to that end i would have a plan to freeze all federal regulations for one year except for health and safety, force the congress to vote on anything over a hundred million dollars. i would have the vice president, he or she would be unwinding all these rules th

citizens united should be disappeared.ost: why don't you give us your thoughts on the topic, the syria. pullout of caller: russia entered afghanistan and killed millions of americans and afghanistan's. i hate russia. to get rido anything of people. i've lost my brother. he lost his life when he went to russia. .hey wanted to interfere i have the very worst memory of the russian people. host: thanks for your call. entry inhe russian syria with what happened in afghanistan back in the late 1970's. guest: when russia intervened in 1979, it was a brutal civil war. troops are on the ground for years.o 20 i think it contributed in some ways to do his thing of the ending of the soviet union. to the extent that the russian leadership is learning from that pass, i think syria is a much more limited intervention. in involved primarily airstrikes and strikes from warships stationed offshore, rather than ground forces. handful.st been a moreover, with announcement made a few days ago, now, the back, ands on pulling getting a political

interestingly though, he simply said i'm going to get rid of citizens united. well, it takes more than a president bi mean, you cannot issue an executive order, and he certainly would, if he was elected, he could not do that. and then he said, we will go back to public funding or we willlhave public funding of elections. public funding of elections, and it did notlseem to work very well. because people among them, barack obama, said i will not take the public funding because it has a limit on how much i can spend. so, publix funding is an idea whose time has come and gone. >> and bernie sanders, a call the other candidates has to get his digs on on n uck. >> well, they really dislike each other. recently that the disruptors, the protesters at his rallies, or sent by the sanders' campaign, and it is true that many of those people say yes, i am a sanders supporter, but i was not center for anybody. conspiracy. >> i heard sanders' wife said today that he is heading to the very end of the convention. you think that is likely? >> i think it is. he has the money, and

it belongs to everybody and we need a supreme court that will reverse citizens united and take that for sale sign off the door of american democracy. so my case for hillary is simple... >> former president clinton on the stump at johnson c. smith university campaigning for his wife former secretary of state hillary clinton. just a week out now from the north carolina primaries. talking about one of the issues the supreme court vacancy after the passing of antonin scalia. >> we will continue to listen in and see how long he stays at the podium. >> you can continue to watch on wbtv.com. no one wants to return to their parked car to find a parking ticket. >> what if it was a prank? a warning about fake parking ca paul cameron live in the studio. we are over a week 8 days from north carolina's primary and the battle for the state is on. live with coverage as donald trump tries to rally support in concorde and billy graham is speaking for -- bill clinton is speaking for hillary. and the average college student dprad 8s with $35,000 in loan debt and how employers are helping to solve that pro

they have to be willing to overall citizens -- overrule citizens united. indicatedinton also that the decision has to go. are you at all this comforted by the idea of presidential candidates laying out specific rulings they expect their nominees to make. we have taken issue with the use of litmus tests since the early 1980's when president reagan articulated in his reelection run that he was going to look for judges who met three criteria, were antiabortion, anti-affirmative action and civil rights, and in favor of prayer in school. we'veg as a -- as long as been involved in the field of judicial selection, it has certainly been my position that litmus tests have no place in the national conversation. think it's that, i important for a president -- in fact, critical for presidents to talk about the court and the kinds of justices they would like to see on the court. but i have never supported litmus tests from democratic or republican candidates. basically, when each of us enters a courtroom as a party, we want to make sure that the judge before whom we ar

they agree on the citizen's united supreme court decision that governors campaign finance reform, both of them feel that should be over turned. and both felt that donald trump's idea of a wall is not a good idea and bernie sanders calling it vulgar and hillary clinton saying that it is probably something that will never be approved any way. but, once again, there are things as we mentioned thathey did fire back on each other. about. let's go ahead and take a listen. >> tonight, i am looking forward to the opportunity to discuss how we knocked down t t bearriers that stand in the way of people getting ahead and starting with the economic ones. my focus is on more good paying jobs, with rising incomes for families. and how we prevent corporations, from taking jobs out of our country, by emosing an exit tax and making them pay back any tax breaks that they have gotten. >> i am running forresident of the united states, because given the crisis facing our country, it is just too late for establishment politics and establishment economics together, we are@ going to have to over turn, this di

citizens united says you have a right of free speech during politics. >> at :00 p.m. eastern on sunday bushfirst lady laura chronicles the lives of afghan women since the u.s. invasion. the book the two. -- the book was put out by the george bush institute. go to our website for the complete schedule. military director of and veteran affairs here in ohio, many veterans have come to me to talk about who they want to vote for. it is your civic duty to get out and vote. many things are at stake with the selection so i encourage you to get out and vote for the candidate that best supports your causes of the future of this nation. >> i'm here supporting bernie sanders. he is the most viable alternative to mainstream politicians. he has progressive ideas that are important to the country. i would encourage everyone to go out and support him if possible. issue isst important going to be college tuition as well as jobs. close relatives go to school the need to know how to pay for it when they are leaving college, future is going to look like. as president of the college democ

this is a very key moment for about a big legal issues and citizens united.illary clinton said she would try to find someone who will overturn it. bernie sanders has said the same. i don't think i know donald trump has said anything about it one way or the other. he of course claims to be self funding. i don't know if that is an improvement to have billionaires running to make it to the presidency on their own team or if it is better to have billionaires behind earmarking donations for their favorite candidate. either way as far as i'm concerned, it has been a huge problem for the country. both democrats and republicans and their lack of transparency about the money because of the amount of money in the name of this book is going through groups that claim to be 501(c)(4) is a huge problem. there's billions or at least millions and millions of dollars in secret money through american politics. >> host: contrary to prediction, the citizens united decision hadn't triggered a tidal wave of corporate political spending. instead, it empowered a few extraordinarily

s were after citizens united. and they say that donna edwards don't take well, guess what, the one supporting that super p.a.c. is wall street. if we want to keep super p.a.c.'s out of maryland, congresswoman edwards, why don't you join me in putting your name to what you stand for which is -- bruce: rebuttal? ms. edwards: i would. i am very proud to have the support of emily's list. millions of women and supporters across the country who believe that we need more than 20% women in the united states senate, that there needs to be diversity of race and ethnicity in the united states senate. i am proud to have their support. what i will not have is a super p.a.c. spending money on my campaign that then spends $55 million to lobby congress for who knows what and who knows what they expect out of mr. van hollen in return. that's what the realtors are doing. emily's list is supporting a pro-choice democratic woman. to bruce for the war on terror. bruce: thank you, scott. the next question is about isis. this is for you

citizens united? what motivates the koch brothers? are there other motivations as well? >> there is what fills in the back story a small group of wealthy donors was hoping to break down the campaign finance limits with a history one after the next after the next so there was more to it with that concerted effort but in terms of what motivates those koch brothers it is hard to know the answer but i believe after spending so much time that they are urged to the believers with their ideology and if you look at that ideology there is almost no daylight with their self-interest. what is good for pope industries is truly good for america and what is good for industries does it could for their bottom line. to see themselves as job creator and they want to shrink government and want to get the regulations off the backs of businesses with environmental pollution in problems to push back. >> but it is in their self-interest. >> we were talking about how you were not able to interview the koch brothers so what is a question you would ask the most of you have been curious about? >>

[applause] in it is no coincidence to give us citizens united and the voting rights act with the supreme court that believes the one to make it easier. it is great there was a robust debate but ted cruz or donald trump talk about either having justice scalia or so my your. that is unbelievably dramatic to be so high. >>, and what was mentioned with that 2000 election so let's talk about neofascism. unleaded is going on. where do you go with that? but it's again because after the politicians everybody points at each other and i would argue the greatest media critic. in the neck the age of 96 as predicted as the consolidated the media to replace civic and democratic values with commercial and entertainment as the sport it is incredibly important to see the rise of the master manipulators said to be part of that neo-fascist to use that as a goal. i would suggest we have the media that fosters fully dysfunctional. [applause] so unfortunately there are things happening at the trump rallies better so jarring in so unsettling suffering from groupthink to say this is unreasonable. this is what i

just bike bernie sanders is talking about citizens united and the influence in governments, there's everyndication that some lobbyist got that placed into the law at the last minute in 1984 during an election year and now puerto rico is suffering. the same way that it has been for 98 years >>> let me ask that if it was put in there in a way that is hurting the economy, can it be taken out? >> as part of the let gags, both sides were - there was evidence that there was-- litigation, there was evidence that if nelson suggests it is inserted, it happens all the time. it is hard now for us 40 years later to confirm that one way or another >>> puerto rico would need congressional action to move on this, to modify these terms >> exactly. now in congress they're looking at a much broader authority for the commonwealth to restructure its debts and what chapter 9 would give. the discussion is moving in many different directions of the it's all on the table in congress right now. there's the treasurer re-- u.s. treasury wants the government to restructure the debt that is constitutional, the highes