as a city employee with dpw, our director issues a lot of determinations. the definition of determination that dpw is what the director decides after a hearing. i think we are all misinterpreting the word determination here. i think this would have never went to a hearing. if it went to a hearing and the director failed to make a decision based on the testimony at the hearing, that, i think, is of appeal -- is appealable to us. i think all we see today is a letter to the director that did not get a response. i feel we do not have jurisdiction in this matter. commissioner mccarthy: any other comments? commissioner clinch: i would like to weigh in at this stage. obviously, this is a complex case. as commissioner walker, i respect the fact that there is a process in place for citizens to that their concerns and one of the reasons we are here. the key important thing for me here in this whole case is -- were the concerns addressed? there is no question about it. every aspect of this case has been addressed. every inspection has been performed. what is interesti