city librarian herrera, after holding public records unlawfully for two years was only found guilty of perjury after the case was brought before a state agency. during that process there was not e are checked. and we see lists after list, after list. of things that he now says and acknowledges that he received. that is only 2009. and he had to file the same thing for 2010 and 2011. and one of the reasons additional reason that he withheld the public record that he was by law, that he was required to give was because it allowed him to do this for two additional years. ftpc said that we can only go back three years, and if he had not withheld the document thises would have been come to public light two years earlier, and the unlawful behavior would have stopped two years ago, and like i said i would have never even bothered to bring it to you because all that you would have done is cover his ass. >> any other public comments? >> any other nominations. hearing none, i would like to call for a vote on electing commissioner ben hur as chair of the commission, for 2014. >> 2015. >> and 2014/