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and number two, the proposed citywide c.f.d. does not create a new funding source and merely finances the cost of existing infrastructure impact fees. the eastern neighborhood working group reports also proposed that c.f.d.'s be used for an addtive source of funding in addition to the impact fees were already getting and in addition to existing property taxes. it would need to be approved by 2/3 of the voters and would be in addition to the proposed citywide c.f.d. thunderbird proposal. the issue being if the property opts into the it in the existing fees, would this reduce the desire or ability of additional owners as an addtive source of funding as recommended by the working group? commissioners, that concludes our presentation for you. for this item, the department is asking that you move to recommend approval with modifications and considerations to the issues we raised in the report and we would al recommend modifying the recommendation for the c.f.d. and he can help with language if you would like to include that in your m
and number two, the proposed citywide c.f.d. does not create a new funding source and merely finances the cost of existing infrastructure impact fees. the eastern neighborhood working group reports also proposed that c.f.d.'s be used for an addtive source of funding in addition to the impact fees were already getting and in addition to existing property taxes. it would need to be approved by 2/3 of the voters and would be in addition to the proposed citywide c.f.d. thunderbird proposal. the...
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and we want a citywide policy so we're not doing these things in an arbitrary fashion. vice president olague: commissioner lee? commissioner lee: i would to acknowledge that if you can think outside the box to produce additional revenue fund, it's got to be you because this is a good way of funding public works projects outside the general fund to fix the potholes, the sidewalks, the infrastructure and create jobs, but i have to say i am amazed every time you come here you have stimulus one, two, and three and somebody public has never done before and i think the city should acknowledge the work you have done with this and you got someone to donate money to do this which is very important given the next several years that we know we will have a slow economic growth. i want to thank you. vice president olague: i have a question and i know this is at the board in a week or -- >> two weeks. vice president olague: yeah. i guess my question is, and if you can answer that one first. >> i would remind that i haven't gone through the analysis or recommendations, so i would like
and we want a citywide policy so we're not doing these things in an arbitrary fashion. vice president olague: commissioner lee? commissioner lee: i would to acknowledge that if you can think outside the box to produce additional revenue fund, it's got to be you because this is a good way of funding public works projects outside the general fund to fix the potholes, the sidewalks, the infrastructure and create jobs, but i have to say i am amazed every time you come here you have stimulus one,...
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also it is a good idea to get this sort of citywide c.f.d. process started. and i was involved there and you can amortize the costs and the substantial cost of developing the district and having a citywide c.f.d. that's smaller project and the much. practical way and the smaller projects to have access with inexpensive money and pays the fees and that are teetering on the brink of being able to move forward. and that extense to raise the impact of equity fees cannot defer but finance through the c.f.d. district. and these are well thought out and good public policy and i urge your support. thank you. >> good afternoon, commissioners. i would like to see more detail in the basic math of what the cost to a buyer per $100,000 over 20 years, calculated at 30 years and at 5%. and in the projects i have been involved in and none in san francisco and reflect in the purchase price and what the price goes down and it's not that hard to figure it out. and i think that would be a good thing to show. and the impact on the general fund because it has what's valued as mino
also it is a good idea to get this sort of citywide c.f.d. process started. and i was involved there and you can amortize the costs and the substantial cost of developing the district and having a citywide c.f.d. that's smaller project and the much. practical way and the smaller projects to have access with inexpensive money and pays the fees and that are teetering on the brink of being able to move forward. and that extense to raise the impact of equity fees cannot defer but finance through...
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it is a citywide and local amenity. the sports fields are citywide. it provides recreational facilities for the baby itself. this enables the completion of the bay trail. there is loss of design work get to be done in the details. -- there is lots of design work to get done -- to be done in the details. we want to extend the recognition of maritime history throughout the entire length of the trail as it goes around hunters point. we have focused in one area with this maritime cultural history park. the other aspect to the parks and open space is not only the celebration of maritime history but also the culture of the bayview. as we develop a detailed plan for each of the parks and open spaces, we will be working to flesh out the details. one of the early part to be developed is referred to as the north side park. it is approximately the size of delores park. that is the proposed location for the african marketplace. there are many other such opportunities to reflect the very rich culture of the debut. i am going to stop at this high level overview and
it is a citywide and local amenity. the sports fields are citywide. it provides recreational facilities for the baby itself. this enables the completion of the bay trail. there is loss of design work get to be done in the details. -- there is lots of design work to get done -- to be done in the details. we want to extend the recognition of maritime history throughout the entire length of the trail as it goes around hunters point. we have focused in one area with this maritime cultural history...
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this is part of the citywide in this stations. can see the reduction in terms of salaries and benefits including the layoffs. we continue to have a big discussion across the country with regards to health care. we continue to see strong increases -- sharp increases in health care costs. that is a big part of our expenses as well. we did go to our contractors and vendors and ask them to reduce their payments to us. we're getting a lot of cooperation. that will save us $4 million. we're trying to put money back into materials and supplies. there's no sense in sending a bus into service if it is going to break down on the streets. that inconveniences' everyone even more. we've seen the parts and supplies inventory cut to the bone. we need to invest in that next year to have reliable service on the streets. those of the main items i want to highlight. transit will have operating costs. we do expect to save money in the long run with them. the service reductions of 10% will take effect on may 1. and mentioned this at the beginning. $56
this is part of the citywide in this stations. can see the reduction in terms of salaries and benefits including the layoffs. we continue to have a big discussion across the country with regards to health care. we continue to see strong increases -- sharp increases in health care costs. that is a big part of our expenses as well. we did go to our contractors and vendors and ask them to reduce their payments to us. we're getting a lot of cooperation. that will save us $4 million. we're trying to...
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citywide, there's a huge cut proposed. it is true we have lots of resources. they are not coordinated. the safety net is defined differently depending on who you ask. ultimately, it is a morass in which the greatest struggle for someone with mental -- [tone!] -- making their way through that system. supervisor chu: are there any other comments? with that, public comments are closed. let me just say supervisor avalos mentioned that nevada county and san francisco do not think we did do things exactly the same way. part of what this legislation does is it means sitting down with public health and figuring out how sentences would navigate through the system. to give you an idea of how said francisco -- and figuring out how seven cisco would
citywide, there's a huge cut proposed. it is true we have lots of resources. they are not coordinated. the safety net is defined differently depending on who you ask. ultimately, it is a morass in which the greatest struggle for someone with mental -- [tone!] -- making their way through that system. supervisor chu: are there any other comments? with that, public comments are closed. let me just say supervisor avalos mentioned that nevada county and san francisco do not think we did do things...
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point we have to be advocates and cheer leaders for our own district and for regions of our city and citywide that i think warrants a level of attention it wasn't getting. with the experiment of foot patrols, we clearly had demonstrated the success of the strategy. this isn't novel. this was practiced for generations. it's a tried and true strategy. so good that that's why other major cities are now returning back to this very strategy and they're not having the discussion -- or they're certainly completing the discussion that, is it extra money that's needed or is it the fact that they want to reorient how policing is done? san francisco is not los angeles. we are a tight city. we have many distinct areas within our city that is well, i think, underscored by the many villages that sort of are adjacent to 10 district police stations. each one deserves its own strategy. and what bothers me is that any time a captain comes and goes -- and we'll certainly ask, how many captains in the last year in various stations have been lifted in the middle of the night only to see a new captain the next day
point we have to be advocates and cheer leaders for our own district and for regions of our city and citywide that i think warrants a level of attention it wasn't getting. with the experiment of foot patrols, we clearly had demonstrated the success of the strategy. this isn't novel. this was practiced for generations. it's a tried and true strategy. so good that that's why other major cities are now returning back to this very strategy and they're not having the discussion -- or they're...
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just to name a fureks she was appointed to the san francisco board of education by late mayor and citywide elections she was elected to a four-year term in 1978, 1982, and 1986. each time elected with the highest number of votes. she also served twice as the school board president and was the first latin american woman elected to the public office in the city and county of san francisco. >> she is the recipient of many awards, most mostly the medallion from the republic of venezuela. rosario, thank you so much for your years of service to our community. [applause] the next award started in november 1991 as a group of gay lay teenos organized to address the various needs of the community. the group met at a monthly basis at various homes until they found a regular meeting place. they established the name which is an acronym for the group which translates to association of united gays impacting latinos, latinas towered self-empowerment. it has a environment for gay and bisexual latinos. they have diverse in culture,ant spiritity. they promote health, well-being and community development that
just to name a fureks she was appointed to the san francisco board of education by late mayor and citywide elections she was elected to a four-year term in 1978, 1982, and 1986. each time elected with the highest number of votes. she also served twice as the school board president and was the first latin american woman elected to the public office in the city and county of san francisco. >> she is the recipient of many awards, most mostly the medallion from the republic of venezuela....
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there are citywide changes to the mandatory policies.if those changes were made and the redevelopment agency commission elected. >> can you read that amendment exactly where it would go? >> you would add a new sentence to the end of the proposed amendment. that would say nothing here and would require the agency or developers to make a change which would violate an existing project agreement? -- agreement. we would support the idea that we would take out the waiver of punitive damages in large part to make these documents consistent with other comparable project documents. if you look at mission bay and the treasure island documents which this board recently endorsed, they did include waivers of consequential and special damages that were included and did not include a waiver of tenant to damages. we are willing to fix that to conform to those other agreements. we would also support the amendment regarding heating and cooling. there are a key changes. one, on the advice of the city attorney, these should not be in the findings. these sho
there are citywide changes to the mandatory policies.if those changes were made and the redevelopment agency commission elected. >> can you read that amendment exactly where it would go? >> you would add a new sentence to the end of the proposed amendment. that would say nothing here and would require the agency or developers to make a change which would violate an existing project agreement? -- agreement. we would support the idea that we would take out the waiver of punitive...
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we would then identified as best practices -- identify those best practices for citywide early childhood education. this would be for san francisco and elsewhere. we would evaluate the duplication of services among city departments, and also those gaps in any program services, those services that were utilized and in underserved communities within the city and county. we would then also look at federal, state, local, or private foundation funding sources for programs for early childhood education service, and look at the city departments that are applying for these funds and how they are using this funding sources. we would also look at any potential overlaps or gaps in providing funding for these various early childhood education and care programs, and look at the department's oversight of the funds and the providers. we would not actually look at the nonprofit providers of these services, but look at it only from the city's perspective in providing that oversight. in terms of consistent criteria for evaluating the program performance, the use of the program evaluation and making progra
we would then identified as best practices -- identify those best practices for citywide early childhood education. this would be for san francisco and elsewhere. we would evaluate the duplication of services among city departments, and also those gaps in any program services, those services that were utilized and in underserved communities within the city and county. we would then also look at federal, state, local, or private foundation funding sources for programs for early childhood...
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currently, the only citywide contribution of the club is the unfortunate wall that overshadows a large section of the embarcadero. is that a wall, a fence, or a combination? it is important to remember the civic responsibility our city has to the waterfront. the importance of this area and the need to replace certain parking lots with developments that benefit the port and city and create visible neighborhoods -- there has been more than enough public input during a number of meetings. i urge you to put it to use and move forward with progress along the west side of the embarcadero. if i may, i have heard a few references to an alternative plan this evening. i advocate you please not consider this plan was created behind closed doors, representing a special interest pursuing their own agenda. hundreds of san franciscans have made a good-faith effort, spending many hours attending meetings and submitting commons for a transparent study that considers the entire community's point of view. i respectfully request to move forward with that plan. president fong: matt harris? >> good evening.
currently, the only citywide contribution of the club is the unfortunate wall that overshadows a large section of the embarcadero. is that a wall, a fence, or a combination? it is important to remember the civic responsibility our city has to the waterfront. the importance of this area and the need to replace certain parking lots with developments that benefit the port and city and create visible neighborhoods -- there has been more than enough public input during a number of meetings. i urge...
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we have major constraint on our budgets, and terrible decisions need to be made citywide. within the parks department, this is a time when many the best ideas possible, finding as many resources as we can, to come up with ideas that the public will support. >supervisor campos: thank you. next speaker. >> i just want to thank you for taking the time to adjust the language here and allow for it to continue. also, i appreciate the efforts that are being made to try to distinguish this from the budgetary process. i think that is an ongoing struggle, but i appreciate your support in trying to keep these charter amendments separated in determining policy versus it becoming a budgetary process. thank you for the effort. supervisor campos: thank you. any other member of the public that would like to speak? seeing none, public comment is closed. again, a lot of discussion has been had about this item. different perspectives have been presented. we have heard from many people in the public about this item, which tells you tell level of interest. i know there are differences of opini
we have major constraint on our budgets, and terrible decisions need to be made citywide. within the parks department, this is a time when many the best ideas possible, finding as many resources as we can, to come up with ideas that the public will support. >supervisor campos: thank you. next speaker. >> i just want to thank you for taking the time to adjust the language here and allow for it to continue. also, i appreciate the efforts that are being made to try to distinguish this...
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. >> four engines will be cut citywide and the city and the union will likely head for binding arbitration this fall. >>> it is 5:05. no sign of survivors in a military plane crash outside anchorage, alaska. a fireball and plume of smoke rose hundreds of feet rose over an air force base following that crash last night. there were four people on board the cargo plane. one witness said he heard a huge bang when the plane went down less than a mile from where he stood. >> we could tell that he was going down. he wasn't going to make it. so we all began hollering that, you know, in excitement and fear and everything else because he was heading straight towards us. >> the plane was on a training run for an upcoming airshow they were crashed. a board of military officers will lead the investigation. >>> the weather is helping firefighters in kern county this morning. that west fire near the town of tehachapi is now 25% contained. temperatures are down, winds are calmer so if the weather holds they expect to have it fully contained by tomorrow. still, the fire is threatening about 150 structures.
. >> four engines will be cut citywide and the city and the union will likely head for binding arbitration this fall. >>> it is 5:05. no sign of survivors in a military plane crash outside anchorage, alaska. a fireball and plume of smoke rose hundreds of feet rose over an air force base following that crash last night. there were four people on board the cargo plane. one witness said he heard a huge bang when the plane went down less than a mile from where he stood. >> we...
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. >> and in the san jose fire department it will be felt citywide but no more than inch and 30.hese stores will shut for good and this station is one of the busiest. on the final day, the engine had three calls, and the three hours. >> with that these cuts, the will not be enough people to man the truck, the station, and with a smaller staff. it will only be opened periodically. and union leaders failed to come to a compromise with the city. and they also said that it is difficult for seasoned to lose. >> the young folks, expected to come and be here for at least 30 years. it was not even there ritter, our reputation as to not let off. >> and with cut parks and other parts of the city with a sit-in negotiators said there are no. .. and of those agreements are ever going to be remade? those 50 that are laid off will have special treatment and considered special. >> with fog along the coastline, with a few breaks in the sun breaks to the san mateo and also in the north. temperatures are warmer out there this afternoon especially inland. 10 degrees and we saw yesterday, 80 degrees
. >> and in the san jose fire department it will be felt citywide but no more than inch and 30.hese stores will shut for good and this station is one of the busiest. on the final day, the engine had three calls, and the three hours. >> with that these cuts, the will not be enough people to man the truck, the station, and with a smaller staff. it will only be opened periodically. and union leaders failed to come to a compromise with the city. and they also said that it is difficult...
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the add backs predominantly citywide. it was not just about the district or constituent. it was about the city. they all sure that in common. to all the members of the board, thank you very much. it was a unanimous budget. [applause] you can read between the lines. [laughter] some of us got it. from labor to the elected family, to all the department heads, if only the meetings were recorded, to the incredible leadership of steve caba. [applause] i think dufty created a facebook fan club. steve has been the constant, the one that held all this together and kept as all the same page when we were starting to get off the script. he is someone who does not need to be lauded cuts he has been lauded appropriately before. thank you for your work, the long hours with the team and the committees, all the work you did with the department heads to help get us here. finally, where is the budget director? [applause] he is looking a little haggard for good reason. the grace of god for anyone who wants that job. he did another outstanding job. i think the board will agree that you need t
the add backs predominantly citywide. it was not just about the district or constituent. it was about the city. they all sure that in common. to all the members of the board, thank you very much. it was a unanimous budget. [applause] you can read between the lines. [laughter] some of us got it. from labor to the elected family, to all the department heads, if only the meetings were recorded, to the incredible leadership of steve caba. [applause] i think dufty created a facebook fan club. steve...
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engelside station and if there are problems with loitering, with threatening and intimidation, these are citywide problems in many places and you know, this may be something to be soft in other ways, with -- with you know, legislation or -- or more police presence or other things but -- i hear what the neighborhood is saying. i think that it is important that -- that anywhere we have -- we provide security and -- and we also make sure that -- that we make neighborhoods safer. as we do these things. i'm sn in support of this. i like to add those caveat that is we kind of keep an eye on what really happens and what is the reality of car ownership and -- make sure, you know, that we're not creating more congestion. thank you. >> cop missioner lee. >> something -- especially and chinese neighbors, speaking chinese. she's afraid to go outside her house. the issue with the housing we're doing here. it doesn't mean that because they're foster kids or afford ablingable housing that they're the criminal element because we have a lot of that in chinatown. now in other places. the lady mentioned she worked
engelside station and if there are problems with loitering, with threatening and intimidation, these are citywide problems in many places and you know, this may be something to be soft in other ways, with -- with you know, legislation or -- or more police presence or other things but -- i hear what the neighborhood is saying. i think that it is important that -- that anywhere we have -- we provide security and -- and we also make sure that -- that we make neighborhoods safer. as we do these...
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. >> but -- i am absolutely, have always been willing to develop a citywide comprehensive plan for children's services. i want to mention, i worked with ronnie in the past very successfully. i fund raised for $24,000 to pay for the 12 unit that is the park and rec staff participated in child development. we did not have the money in our budget to do that. i felt that it was important to have in good faith, child development course work at st. mary's recreation center and -- i -- there was a -- a positive experience and i wanted to continue to do that kind of shared programming. so -- >> let me ask you one more question then. that is -- from a timing standpoint for your program, as i saw a long e-mail trace over almost a year and a half on this issue with city college, i got the impression you needed to know last june that the he's wasn't going to be extended so that you could -- you could move out and -- so, am i assuming correctly that we have long passed the date that you could find -- that you would -- you would terminate the services or when -- when do you take up again with classes? city
. >> but -- i am absolutely, have always been willing to develop a citywide comprehensive plan for children's services. i want to mention, i worked with ronnie in the past very successfully. i fund raised for $24,000 to pay for the 12 unit that is the park and rec staff participated in child development. we did not have the money in our budget to do that. i felt that it was important to have in good faith, child development course work at st. mary's recreation center and -- i -- there was...
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and citywide there are some captains who have done tremendous things with foot patrols and others who haven't. assistant chief? >> i understand your concerns and i can concur with those, each captain to a certain extent imments community policing in a different fashion as opposed to consistently across the city. supervisor mirkarimi, in the short conversation that we've had, my sense is, tell me if i'm wrong, that the foot beat issue has been a topic of conversation at the board of supervisors for several years prior to the chief and i arriving. you've been given a multitude of promises and now you want something a little more concrete as to what we're going to do. and that's the reason why there's legislation. i would venture to guess that's some of the issue here. supervisor mirkarimi: that's part of my fire. that has evolved over periods of time. as somebody who entered into elected office with a district that was engulfed in violent crime, and depending which year, the second or third highest homicide rate, and the constant simmer of, you know, the incivility and distress. i advoc
and citywide there are some captains who have done tremendous things with foot patrols and others who haven't. assistant chief? >> i understand your concerns and i can concur with those, each captain to a certain extent imments community policing in a different fashion as opposed to consistently across the city. supervisor mirkarimi, in the short conversation that we've had, my sense is, tell me if i'm wrong, that the foot beat issue has been a topic of conversation at the board of...
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the northeast embarcadero is a citywide, regional, and state what resourced. when decisions about development and open space are being made, they should be made from this grander and more subtly lighted perspective. this is a perspective that was reiterated repeatedly by the commission as well. design principal 5 -- provide open space concern to the needs of residents and visitors. adequate open space is a fundamental need for all city neighborhoods. our hearts are wonderful foundation for writing open space network equal to in grandeur almost anywhere in the country. the addition of smaller open spaces, as proposed by this study, would provide adequate amenities for this neighborhood. design principles 6 -- to ensure the high-quality design of streets along the embarcadero waterfront. embarcadero's civic importance should be reflected in the quality of the public realm. quality of materials, attention to detail, and connectivity to adjacent streets and open spaces should be elevated above the ground and other parts of the city. design principal 7, the whole w
the northeast embarcadero is a citywide, regional, and state what resourced. when decisions about development and open space are being made, they should be made from this grander and more subtly lighted perspective. this is a perspective that was reiterated repeatedly by the commission as well. design principal 5 -- provide open space concern to the needs of residents and visitors. adequate open space is a fundamental need for all city neighborhoods. our hearts are wonderful foundation for...
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i realize that this has been an epicenter of concern within your district, but of course, citywide, in that there has been a number of very -- varied perspectives as to how we move forward, and some of them are somewhat contrarian with each other, so i'm glad we are able to focus on the next steps with a certain amount of clarity and be able to marshal, i think, the key stakeholders in this discussion and how the city is to help remedy what has been troubling and challenging, so i think this legislation helps us get to that next place. supervisor chiu: thank you. what look to talk about the legislation -- the item has already been called -- remember that last year we passed legislation to expand the authority of the edgerton commission with regard to suspensions, and i think many of us had hoped that that would be sufficient to provide the city with enough tools to deal with the problematic clubs we're talking about, and i want to reiterate, that was made. there are many clubs that do not have a record of violence, and i think it is important to recognize that. while we're trying to ta
i realize that this has been an epicenter of concern within your district, but of course, citywide, in that there has been a number of very -- varied perspectives as to how we move forward, and some of them are somewhat contrarian with each other, so i'm glad we are able to focus on the next steps with a certain amount of clarity and be able to marshal, i think, the key stakeholders in this discussion and how the city is to help remedy what has been troubling and challenging, so i think this...
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resolutions and i would address the area plan infrastructure commission first and then address the citywide c.f.d. resolution second. i do want to elaborate a little bit on the reasons we're having the resolution forming this committee. the area plan infrastructure finance committee or the apif. there was a previous committee you may remember the eastern neighborhoods structure finance group which was created to specifically come up with recommendations for ideas to finance the significant deficit and infrastructure monies that the planning department identified and not only eastern neighborhoods plan but in other recently adopted area plans as i think all of you know very well, the impact fees only cover a portion of the identified infrastructure need. and we have been interested in our office working with the planning department and the capital planning group to find other tools to finance infrastructure development in the neighborhoods. and we can have what we all call complete neighborhood development. so the recommendations from that report were that a consultant study be done on the e
resolutions and i would address the area plan infrastructure commission first and then address the citywide c.f.d. resolution second. i do want to elaborate a little bit on the reasons we're having the resolution forming this committee. the area plan infrastructure finance committee or the apif. there was a previous committee you may remember the eastern neighborhoods structure finance group which was created to specifically come up with recommendations for ideas to finance the significant...
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systems were on the east coast of the united states, often in places that already had developed a citywide water supply system. sullivan: in 1630, boston was basically three mountains, there were very steep hills. waste would run down quickly and dump into the harbor. and the tide would carry most of it away. well, this worked well for a while. the problem was, as boston wanted to expand, it started filling in the mudflats. the water could come rushing down the hill, it would hit the flat area and slow down. at high tide, it couldn't get out at all. it got so bad that the city took over, 'cause the city has a responsibility to protect its citizens. boston built the first modern sewer system in the united states. ours was completed between 1877 and 1884. with this wonderful new sewer system, we were taking our filth and moving it out to the ocean. of course, all of this was untreated. in the 1960s, we were still pumping all of our sewage out to moon island, untreated. we would get swimmers here, never knowing, in the middle of summer, why you would have a cold. well, we were swimming in dil
systems were on the east coast of the united states, often in places that already had developed a citywide water supply system. sullivan: in 1630, boston was basically three mountains, there were very steep hills. waste would run down quickly and dump into the harbor. and the tide would carry most of it away. well, this worked well for a while. the problem was, as boston wanted to expand, it started filling in the mudflats. the water could come rushing down the hill, it would hit the flat area...