so in the areas where there was not a proposed civilian position to be funded, you did do an analysis with the department and it shows generally that in those positions that were not proposed to be funded by the mayor's budget office in terms of a civilianized position, there are currently assigned with a light duty is on a police officer. so we would not be able to hire a civilian, the mighty, and put that light duty officer back on the beat because there light duty. >> that is correct almost uniformly. i think there're five positions not being staffed by light duty officers. the vast majority are. supervisor chu: ok, thank you. any questions from the committee? ok. colleagues, we do have recommendations before us. i'd think in terms of the civilianization question, i do have some outstanding questions about options outside of these positions, whether there are any positions that are currently being done by uniformed officers where it might make sense for civilians to fit in those. i am wondering if the chief had talked about that? do not have a proposal in this moment, the future th

intelligence officials have indicated that they think no more than sixty civilians have been killed in almost ten years of bombing in this campaign and that's ludicrous it's absolutely not the case until we've identified around one hundred seventy five children killed just in pakistan and we think the number of civilians killed in pakistan is a minimum it's just under five hundred maybe as high as i under there are huge numbers of people we simply don't know their identity we don't know their status and for the us to continually claim that it's not killing civilians is simply untrue i think it's wrong and they need they do need to be held to account for this ok bill what do you think is this strategy working. yeah you know this is i absolutely agree the obama administration is is making political hay out of these drone strikes it allows it to correct itself as being strong on terrorism but it's really a stopgap. it's it's a cheat to. in order for them not to make hard choices which is to actually get in the case of pakistan to control its own territory or do something about it itself a

the would-be military civilians and the contractor force. -- would be military, civilians, and the contractororce. it would be a requirement by dod to include an assessment of overall personnel. when we last issued a report looking at, we noted that dod had taken steps in terms of providing guidance to use the least costly extra personnel to achieve the mission using the military requirements. as you know, there's also a mandate for g8 out to look more closely at that guidance and do an assessment of the methodology that makes the determination of the least costly way to go about making that determination. but there is not a strategy or number in the strategic team capital plan that we ever feare -- in the strategic team in capital plan that we have reviewed. >> mr. vollrath? >> the question, if i have it right, is what positions or jobs or skills to our government civilians perform that are more aligned with what they would be doing versus with the military would be doing? >> correct. >> in a simple step, it would be many of the base support requirements, acquisition requirements. when i tal

almost all of them depend on these civilian signals. i had two of the lieutenants of the austin police department in my office on tuesday. they were asking me for guidance on what i would do with their newly purchased uav. what i recommend the use it during game day, to monitor for suspicious activities around the football stadium? would i recommend the use it for swat activities, perhaps hostage situations? i gave them my recommendations. if you have risk on the ground already, i would get those eyes in the sky. but if there is not ongoing, risky activity on the ground, i would probably think it -- keep it down. >> could criminal activities use this technology to thwart law enforcement activity? >> the spoofing technology? >> the gps technology the students have come up with. >> i want to make a point that this is not easy. this has taken us years to build and perfect. the trouble is that civilian malefactors or others can get hold of what are called signals simulators. they can do almost everything we did. these are readily available.

let's start with the senate passed language that directs civilians rigid civilian -- it would be expectedbers provided, the simple math would suggest more than 39,000 civilian full- time equivalents would be eliminated. next we have sequestration and nobody wants it to happen. we have been talking about it for a while and it appears there is little to the planning associated with the legislative mandate. assuming an exemption from personnel, we calculate their would be an approximate reduction amongst all other counts. simple math would suggest an additional 89,000 civilians would be eliminated. when you add the two figures we're talking about more of a 128,000 people. some of the pentagon have indicated sequestration alone could be one quarter of a total of the workforce for almost 200,000 people. particulate without the underpinning with a long-term damage to the workforce, let us not forget what would have to be calculated. this of calls from the first quarter of the year. a proposed any effort without the necessary details of support the proposal. and a kiss of the senate -- both appe

we're the third largest civilian oversight agency only surpassed by chicago and new york civilian oversight agencies. it was created by a board of supervisors-sponsored charter amendment in became fully operational in 1983. we were originally an office in the san francisco police department, but it was later placed under the direct supervision of the police commission as an independent agency. the police commission is also a civilian body. the function is to build trust with the community by being a bridge between the public and police in matters of police conduct, as well as police policy. to that end, we have a mission to ensure police accountability by conducting fair, timely, and unbiased investigation. we also make recommendations on police policies and practices and conduct mediations between plaintiffs and police. this office investigate civilian complaint against san francisco police officers and make policy recommendations on the police department policy. in california law enforcement agencies must have a procedure to investigate complaints by members of the public. they serve the

journalists and others and there been bombardments by the government of civilian population centers about the violation of the war i think one of the reasons the red cross stepped up over the weekend to press this point about civil war was to make clear that these acts now ask to be used as war crimes and there is a possibility. of an accounting for them before an international. backed up vote for the government of syria and for the rebels. so in that sense what does u.s. or cia involvement really mean if now these can be considered international war crimes and people are calling it a civil war because what we know from reports as far is that the cia is definitely involved they're gathering information and getting intel right trying to figure out who exactly is who on the ground some reports out there would say that they're helping to facilitate some of the weapons shipments that are making their way into syria that might be coming through turkey via saudi arabia or architect are by that the u.s. is also involved there and do we know anything else how much how much more involvement

todd humphries, who was our first witness today, shows that civilian medical -- civilian systems can be hijacked with a small investment of money and time. these findings are alarming and show a gaping hole in the security of the unmanned aerial systems. now is the time to ensure these vulnerabilities are mitigated to protect the aviation system -- the department's mission is to protect the homeland. they are uninterested or unprepared to step up to the plate to address the proliferation of the unmanned aerial systems in u.s. airspace. the potential threat for our national security and the concerns that our citizens have of how the drones fly over cities will be used, including protecting civil liberties under the constitution. in discussions with by subcommittee -- with the subcommittee staff, they said the department does not see this function, as part of their mission with no part of the unmanned aerial systems. i cannot imagine how they would find that there is no role when there is a terror plot afforded by the fbi to attempt to hit the united states capitol and the pentagon. wh

all of us depend on the civilian signals. i will tell you i had two of the lieutenant in the austin police department in my office on tuesday and they were asking me for guidance on what i would do with their newly purchased uav. what i use that? would i recommend they use it during game day as they want to monitor for suspicious that they believe around the teeth of a stadium? would i recommend they use it for a s.w.a.t activities of the hostage situations? to give them my recommendations if you have risk on the ground already, i would get those eyes in the sky. but if there isn't an ongoing briski at dignity on the ground, i'd probably keep it down. >> you think criminal elements could utilize this for law-enforcement surveillance? >> i think they could use a type elegy -- the spoofing technology? >> gps technology students have come up with. >> i want to make a point this was nec. it has taken us years to perfect see us. the trouble is civilian malefactors or others can get a hold of what are called gps signal simulators a

where are the civilians going? >> they're scattering to the four winds, in some cases civilians flee to what they believe are safer villages or towns where their relatives are. some of them run across the border to nearby turkey. in the case of this battle where you're hearing heavy artillery, constant machine gun fire being sprayed all other the place, we're watching this from a vantage point we believe is a safe distance back. what's striking is that just maybe two miles away from where the battle is raging -- there was a huge explosion just now -- just a few miles away, families are kind of sitting on their balconies. children are walking around. there was a call to prayer recently and they're behaving as if nothing happened. i have seen a constant stream of motorcycles loaded with families coming from the direction of the battle itself. in some case it is five, six family members on a single motorbike which is a sign of how frightening it must be closer to where the battle is raging. >> you just said there was

i am defending innocent civilians. i feel confident in what i am doing and morally i feel c competent in what i am doing. >> they are not only preventing civilian deaths but preventing future deaths. >> he is 25 years old been here 2 and a half years. what is a blue eyed new yorker doing fighting in israel? >> i came to serve in the military to serve in the jewish army. i was brought up with a strong jewish identity. i consider myself a proud american. america is a country that let jews live freely and prosper for a very long time. but at the same time it was important for me to jab the first opportunity to live in a j jewish country to liserve on a jewish army. >> what is the biggest rumor you would like to dispel? >> it is a monster that drags people out of their home. it's really every dguy on my tem the only thing they want to do is go home with their girlfriend be at the pool or the beach. no one wants to be here but we know we have to be. everybody is optimistic for peace everybody wants to take a vacation. >> yo

criticised for killing civilians in drone strikes targeting pakistani militants and us president barack obama might now see these and north holdouts go i've noticed what the debatable definition of targets. pointing in syria as government sources advance on the rebel controlled areas near the capital and in the country's largest city aleppo while washington applauds the opposition gains and promises to increase support. al you have been lakers have a difficult road ahead of sales plummet across the continent leading to thousands of painful layoffs. you saw in russia and around the world with me thanks for joining us first u.s. drone strikes have killed more than a hundred and fifty supposed militants in pakistan so far this year and zero civilians that's from a recent new america foundation however critics say the obama administration with its definition of militant is blurring the line between what's classed as a civilian and a threat washington correspondent can now explains. if you believe this chart as seen on c.n.n. american drone strikes in pakistan have been so precise that they

i couldn't really get a job in the civilian world. it was just hard to readjust getting back in and waiting for my disability rating. not trying to -- we're not trying to get a job. >> it's been really wonderful watching my husband come around and alabama a different person. it's given them a new sense of purpose, more drive. they each have their own story to tell. kind of nice to get somebody else's perspective and learn somebody else may be suffering just a little more than even they are. >> i was able to come off my medication as far as posttraumatic distress disorder and a lot of meds i was taking for traumatic brain injury. a lot of my guys will tell you the same thing, their blood pressure has lowered and come off their meds as well. >> getting better sleep at night, going to bed. i feel like i'm actually doing something, feeling like i'm actually useful now. before i didn't want to wake up for a job, doesn't want to go to work. now i'm probably 90% of the time i'm getting up before my alarm goes off. >> we find therapy in diffe

criticized for killing civilians in drone strikes targeting pakistani militants that u.s. president barack obama might now see these and little deaths go unnoticed with a debatable definition of targets. will stop fighting in syria as government forces advance on rebel controlled areas near the capital and in the country's largest city of aleppo while washington applauds the opposition's gains and promises to increase support. and the man who once filled to put as she landed potato behind bars could soon be working to keep i'll tell them they stand there we can still holed up inside the ecuadorian embassy. international news and comment live from moscow this is. thanks for joining us u.s. led drone strikes have killed more than one hundred and fifty suppose militants in pakistan so far this year and zero civilians that's from a recent new america foundation paul however critics say the obama administration with its definition of militant is blurring the line between what's classed as a civilian and what's a threat how washington correspondent get an edge chicken reports. i

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criticized for killing civilians and drone strikes targeting pakistani militants the u.s. president barack obama might now see these and north all deaths go unnoticed with a debatable definition of targets. and the man who once fought to put at chilean dictator behind bars could soon be working to keep julian assange out of them they says the weekly exegesis still holed up inside the ecuadorian embassy. russia and around the world this is with me thanks for joining us syrian government troops seem to have regained the upper hand in fighting rebel forces in and around the country still major cities fierce clashes are taking place now close to damascus as the army advances on a city captured by the rebels during their offensive on the capital last week at the same time more government troops are moving towards the country's largest city of aleppo where fighting has been intensifying for several days now claiming dozens of lives authorities say there are solidifying their control of the commercial hub such reports contradict hillary clinton her earlier hail to the gains made

criticize for killing civilians in drone strikes targeting pakistani militants your president barack obama might now see these unlawful that go on notice in the debatable definition target. and the man who wants to put atlantic tator behind bars legal. to bring plea and i found out the president. has three pm here in moscow this is r t coming to you live i'm an isa now a with our top story this hour and washington is once again stepping up support for syrian rebels hillary clinton made that clear in a statement where she also hailed the opposition's territorial gains that's as the russian foreign minister lashed out at the u.s. for its stance on syria saying the comments on last week's blast in damascus practically justify terrorism. and you can weigh what's cause we don't understand why our western partners refused to condemn the terrorist attack in damascus moreover susan rice used to this incident to prove that the u.n. security council could no longer hesitate over the resolution on chapter seven so basically she is saying he would support such terrorist attacks until the securit

criticizable killing civilians in drone strikes targeting pakistani militants and us president braga banner might now see these unlawful dads go unnoticed for the debatable definition of dog. fighting in syria's government forces advance on a rebel controlled areas near the capital and in the country's largest city of aleppo while washington up north the opposition to get in and promises to increase support. and european make is have a difficult road ahead of sales plundered across the continent leading to thousands of painful layoffs. international news live from moscow this is all she was me thanks for joining us u.s. led drone strikes have killed more than a hundred and fifty supposed militants in pakistan so far this year and zero civilians that's from a recent new america foundation poll however critics say the obama administration with its definition of militant is blurring the line between what's classed as a civilian and war threat how washington correspondent got an education now explains. if you believe this chart as seen on c.n.n. american drone strikes in pakistan have be

criticized for killing civilians in drone strikes targeting pakistani militants u.s. president barack obama might now see these are lawful deaths go on notice with a debatable definition op target. and the man who once font to put a chilling dictator behind bars could soon join the legal team with keeping julian of sons out of prison. but from our headquarters in central moscow you're watching r t with me and he said now it's good to have you with us two pm here in the opposition capital one pm in damascus and syrian government troops seem to have regain the upper hand in fighting rebel forces in and around the country's two major cities fierce clashes are now taking place close to the capital as the army advances on a small city earlier captured by rebels at the same time or government troops are moving towards the country's largest city aleppo we're finding ran into its fifth day since reports contradict hillary clinton who earlier held the gains made by opposition also announcing that washington stepping up its support for the rabbits meanwhile thousands are fleein

signals to civilian g.p.s. signals which are under unencrypted the second goal is i think the more ambitious one let's see what we can do to fix this problem there's a grassroots approach to that where you fix the receivers themselves but there's a top down approach to where we could actually change the satellite signals coming from the g.p.s. satellites and that's going to take time going to take money and political will but that's what we're hoping it will eventually happen so that the problem is solved globally. as you certainly have a great grasp on the technology that we're dealing with i know that in the media it's very rare that a lot of especially the mainstream media even talks about drones i know fox news did this report and you spoke to them recently but. it's i think a lot of people are going to be surprised and i'm wondering what you think i know last month we had a drone crash here on the eastern shore of maryland. but do you think i mean as somebody who spends so much time sort of developing dron

civilians and civilian objects may not be attacked in any circumstances by incendiary bombs. basically the use of white phosphorus is banned in any populated zones the american army claims to have used it only to illuminate combat zones. yet influenza thousands of inhabitants were still in the city during the bombing. eunice arranges to meet me at the martyrs cemetery a former football stadium three thousand five hundred bodies are buried here resistance fighters and civilians alike. this is where eunice played football today he comes to meditate at the graves of former teammates now become martyrs. to not be what they lie about some of the footballers who are used to play in this stadium very dear john admitted that even the coach we called him an old cowboy even he was killed by the americans and oh i think thirteen players from the flu team buried in their own football ground. this man is the caretaker of the cemetery one day in november two thousand and four while bearing the victims of the fighting he made a strange discovery. i did the americans brought me sadness at fi

they described it as a massacre of civilians. and what this really goats to show you is just how difficult it is to get to the bottom of facts inside syria where there is so little yip reporting alawed and so much misinformation being disseminate bid both sides. >> clarissa ward for us tonight, clarissa, thank you. >> jeff: secretary of state hillary clinton met in cairo today with egypt's top general field marshal hussein tantawi and urged him to resolve the issues with morsi of the muslim brotherhood. however with an apparent warning shot to the brotherhood tantawi said egypt will never fall, it belongs to all he gyp shan, not to a certain group. the armed forces will in the allow t unquote. in this country the food and drug administration is under fire tonight. newly revealed records show the agency carried out an extraordinary spying operation on some its own scientists. jan crawford is in washington and has more on that, jan, good evening to you. >> well, jeff, i mean this is really quite a story that's been uncovered by "th

pakistan drone strikes this year but experts point out the dodgy definition that blurs insurgents and civilians. but disturbing discovery in russian with loads almost two hundred and fifty human embryos are found dumped in plastic barrels police say they may have been used for the research. and a heavyweight group for julian assange just legal team the man who indicted chilean dictator for no say for human rights abuses now joins the whistleblower in his fight. oh it's five pm here in the russian capital this is our team nominee for now way with our top story moscow has hit out at washington over its comments on last week's blast in damascus which killed president also a key aides foreign minister sergei lavrov said the u.s. practically justified terrorism is this a calf enough has the details let's essential war of words but a sort of hypocritical stance to some degree when we saw many members of the u.s. administration speaking out almost immediately after various so-called massacres that had taken place on the ground in syria when this latest blast took place killing many high profile member

criticised for killing civilians in drone strikes targeting pakistani militants the us president barack obama might now see these unlawful doubts go unnoticed with a debatable definition of targets. will stop fighting in syria as government forces advance on gravel controlled areas near the capital and in the country's largest city of aleppo while washington applause the opposition's gains and promises to increase support. and european car makers have a difficult road ahead as sales plummeted across the continent leading to thousands of painful layoffs. hello and welcome to. news live from moscow i am you know ship of our time main story now u.s. led drone strikes have killed more than one hundred fifty suppose militants in pakistan so far this year. that's from a recent new america foundation poll however critics say the obama administration is blurring the line between civilian and thrash where there's different version of militant washington correspondent again education explains. if you believe this chart as seen on c.n.n. american drone strikes in pakistan have been so precise that

murderous atrocity against civilians.prisal for the iranian scientist, five of whom were murdered in tehran. but third, it was a provocation. the iranians to do something like this in broad daylight, murdering civilians, they had to think through what the israeli reaction is going to be. israelis ought to think through and ask themselves why did they do this to our people? what do they expect to us do? when do they expect to us do it? that's why iend to agree with charles on this. when the israelis fought to think through how they are going to counter attack against this, not do anything rationally, this is like a red cape snapped in front of a bull. the iranians are expecting a reaction. israelis ought not to comply. i would think here that the old adage, revenge is the dish best eaten cold. >> bret: this is also the 18th anniversary of a bombing of a jewish community center in argentina. 18 years ago killing 85 people. >> which is why that is a large piece of evidence. the iranians whom our own state department says the