today, congressman ckusinich asked have you guys heard about medical bankruptcy, 80% was associated to medical costs? and they said nothing. >> so what's? what's your point in all of this? >> the business mod for insurers is intended to attract healthy people, not sick people. and they do everything in their power to keep sick people out. >> that's what insurance is for. it's for healthy people to help them in case they get really sick. >> but insurance only hurts when you have enough healthy people to outdo the costs of sick people. >> we have 85% of 300 million people insured. that's a lot. >> most are in employer-based coverage where you have a balance. in the large employer market, insurers can't cherry pick. we have to make sure that's the rule across the board. >> why don't we do a plan then zooms up on the people that have freelance insurance, and the 14 million of the uninsured who want it and can't afford it. why don't we rifle shot into those guys instead of sweeping with a broad brush across 300 million americans health care? >> amen. >> that's what these bills do. they woul