nobody's going to get to mr. clack. because if you have a disagreement and you will down with the regime is as i was saying, many supporters, what does he in cuba, mister back, what replaces it? and who replaces that? i'm from where? well, i think that's really the key question. the government has been able to take some time or children's remarkably well. solution gregory is absolutely right. there are significant portions of the election that are still very loyal, not mention the armed forces and those are forces. this is not a black and white situation, but rarely, rarely are. i think that what we see is the increasing perspiration and explosion of the spatial. i think historically, what is the free time lapse of the system? and i believe so either civil war, united states and driven, she's very, very few people want to go down that route. i get every day with i'm pretty mostly there. so perhaps a bit separated from, from some elements. there is not feeling in my view of yours, in the selections style, for the total d

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but then again, when you shifted to the east, there's a top prosy versus democracy argument called clack. and i think that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. it's only focused on europe at this point in time. go ahead. well, lou night, the states use the same argument against china. i mean it's, it's terrible. in the last few decades, china has been the mangan ties with japan, you know, there was a trail april, some meeting on the president's own japan, south korea and china just recently. things seem to be moving up, you know, looking up. and now they're like just a success or chinese so great. you're in south china, sea or chinese. so aggressive is trying to see. and they even don't look at the names that these are actually supposed to china. what you are, right. you know, i think that the problem with much deeper than just foreign policy, all to put it there in systems use certain frame just sort of weaknesses all the nations that they control. the not is used germans pension for collectivism and for collective sacrifice. sometimes, in the same way, you know, the american authorities

nobody's going to get to mr. clack. because if you have a disagreement and you will down with the regime is as i was saying, many supporters, what does he in cuba, mr. clueback, what replaces it? and who replaces that? i'm from where? well, i think that's really the key question number. government has been able to take some time or children's remarkably well educated solution. gregory is absolutely right. there are significant portions of the election. there are still very loyal mention the reports and those are the courses. this is a black and white situation too, but rarely, rarely are. i think that what we see is increasing frustration. an explosion of frustration, i think, historically, what is the problem free time? at least the civil war united states and then she married few people want to go down that route. i think every day would be mostly in there. so perhaps a bit separated from, from some elements. but there is not of feeling in my view, in the selection style of the total dismantlement of the system, which

but then again, when you shifted to the east, there's a top prosy versus democracy argument called clack. of things that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. it's only focused on europe at this point in time. go ahead. well, the night the states use the same argument against china. i mean it's, it's terrible. in the last few decades, china has been many times with japan. you know, there was a trail april, some meeting on the president's own japan, south korea and china just presently. things seem to be moving up, you know, looking up and now they're like, stay, success, or chinese. so gratian in south china, sea or chinese, so abreast of east china sea. and they even don't look at the joke, different names that actually seems close to china when you are right. you know, i think that the problem is much deeper than just for in 40. see all the different systems use certain frame. yes. so the weaknesses of the nation is that the control, the not is used germans pension for collectivism and for collective sacrifice, sometimes in the same way you know, the make just using these thank demand in

point that, you know, policing, what you described as the energetic policing of poor and working class clack communities helped to create because we've seen the studies, that black men in particular with criminal records have no chance in the conventional job market. in the above ground job marketment and so the constant surveillance policing arrest, imprisonment perpetuates its own cycle and making people employable and necessitating the creation of an underground economy and all of the attendant problems that come with it. >> exactly. >> this is really what it means to be systematically flawed. >> exactly. and that, and prisons themselves, too, it's a constant feedback loop. >> there's a question here, what do you see as the link or is there a link between the black rebellion since the 1960's, during the 1960's and the prison upriding that starts to happen around the same times? >> yeah, certainly. i mean, this is the same crucible period that i'm talking about, and the prison uprising, when prisons themselves are becoming blacker and browner and becoming a new organizing space, frankly, w