go. >> joining you are discussion, claire mccaskill.t this afternoon, we have now learned that jeffery clark is saying he may have committed federal crimes and has to use the fifth amendment rather than answer questions about them. >> yeah. you know, this is one of the things that has always bugged me. when you are a state prosecutor, you have to respond to 911 calls. when you are a federal prosecutor, you get to sit back at your desk and just decide which of the various cases you want to find federal jurisdiction on. as a result, the state prosecutors handle lots of cases and they have to go quickly. you have to make decisions quickly. you have to democrat detectives have to investigate quickly. the federal government is not used to moving with dispatch when it comes to seeking justice. they are used to going really, really slowly, and that's what the trump lawyers are count ogen the trump gang is counting on the fact that they can take over congress before it is decided whether congress will still have the power to subpoena and do ove

only eggland's best. ♪♪ >>> i'm joined now by claire mccaskill.>> performance art, grift, endless trolling. people who are cynical about politics say it can't get worse. according to dan crenshaw, who is a pretty conservative republican, some of the party is getting worse. i'm curious what you think about all of the above. >> yeah, well, i agree with the view that dan crenshaw is the pot calling the kettle black. he's not exactly been standing up to the big lie and other extreme nonsense that has gotten the republican party in its grip. it's going to be really interesting. i notice that matt gaetz said he was going to nominate donald trump for speaker. many people don't realize that a non-member of congress can in fact be speaker of the house. it will be fascinating to see if whether or not you support donald trump for speaker is the primary issue of the midterms. i could see that happening. unless donald trump shuts it down and frankly i don't see him doing that. because he loves the attention. we all know that the only thing donald trump loves m

i want to listen to claire mccaskill earlier on our today. >> we know trump was watching tv. he watched tv all day long for 4 years. he watched all of the channels. we can go through and we can put the images at a specific time and we can then fill in the text messages, the phone calls that were flooding the white house saying get him to call them off, give me those facts, give me those timelines and give me a jury. >> that -- she laid out an incredible set of things that i hope the committee is doing but what is the benefit of a time line like this. >> i have great respect for the former senator and i think much of what she described, the impeachment trial ultimately did did work in terms of compiling the timeline. i suspect that the committee is doing what she has described, putting together by virtual of the document request that they have gathered so far, putting together those missing pieces so the congress can understand what happened on that day and obviously the inaction of the president in a critical few hours during the course of that assault on the capitol is derel

and claire mccaskill is back with us former democratic u.s. senator from the state of missouri. good evening, and welcome to you all. ashley, i want to start with you, and the reaction of meadows hold back. not thoroughly surprising, but it does follow his sharing of substantive potentially records and documents. >> that's right, and i think we actually talked about this on your show last week. when he was planning on participating, it was a little unclear just how i'm forthcoming he was going to be. he seemed to at that point try and thread the needle between basically not being held in contempt as bannon was, but not actually giving anything up and anchoring former president trump. the things that have changed and that is fascinating, mark meadows came out with a book. this is a book that he truly, he truly thought the former president trump was going to love. of course that was a total misread of the situation. former president trump is furious with the book. meadows we have been told is beside himself, he's trying to get back into trump's good graces. and if you want to unde

senator now nbc news and msnbc political analyst claire mccaskill. e so glad claire could jump on to talk about the death of long time senate majority leader harry reid, her former colleague, his wife of 62 years announced in a statement that reid passed away peacefully while surrounded by friends following what she called a courageous four-year bat well pancreatic cancer. combative but soft spoken, reid was elected to the united states senate in 1986 after serving two terms in the house of representatives. he held the role of senate majority leader from 2007 to 2015 and was a pivotal figure on capitol hill touring the administration's of both george w. bush and barack obama. president biden worked for two decades in the senate and eight years while vice president paid tribute to a person he called a great american and a dear friend. in a statement the president wrote "if harry said he would do something, he did it. if he gave you his word, you could bank on it. that's how he got things done for the good of the country for decades." president biden al

there are many others who are quietly cooperating with the committee. >> claire mccaskill, what is your frustration level right now these days with all of it, with the feds, with the fact that none of the plotters, planners, none of the people behind 1/6 have paid a price? >> it's pretty damn high. you know, here's the thing. the federal government, to use a phrase, brian, that you might recall from your earliest time in television in missouri, the feds move like molasses in january. they are so slow. and there is an awful lot of evidence out there and it just really right now -- the 1/6 committee's biggest enemy is not people taking the fifth, it's not people refusing to cooperate. it's time. time is their biggest enemy. they have got to really put on the afterburners here because all this litigation will be in court as to who has to show up and whether executive privilege is relevant. they're not going to have time to do that if they don't go quickly, especially if the house is lost to the republicans next year. >> ashley parker, even though a war in eastern europe would be the perfec

former senator claire mccaskill and dr. patel, thank you. >>> trump's efforts to block congress from getting white house records as the select committee gets ready for the next contempt vote. on the eve of one of the most consequential supreme court cases in decades, what overturning roe v wade would mean for america and he could be the next speaker, the spineless republican leader that refuses to do anything about the open racism within his caucus and tonight's absolute worst, the organized campaign to make sure the books your children read first get the stamp of approval from the white right. "the reidout" continues after this. "the reidout" continues after this ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event. ever notice how stiff clothes experience the power can feel rough on your skin? it's because they rub against you creating friction. and your clothes rub against you all day. for softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free & gentle. just pour into the rinse di

and our friend former senator claire mccaskill joins us. claire, being away for a week and seeing luke and mike schmidt's scoop about criminality being a very serious element or backdrop for this probe, and the "washington post" reported the same thing, i think, over the weekend. certainly ends the speculation around that. i mean, this is -- this is more than sort of liz cheney's stated commitment to get to the bottom of what the leader of their own party did on january 6th. this represents real criminal and legal peril for everyone involved at this point. >> well, liz cheney has from the very beginning talked about that delay. she has focused on what donald trump did once he saw the images of those people fighting police officers, attacking police officers, breaking in to the capitol, destroying the capitol grounds. he saw that, and he did nothing. now, here's the thing that i have got to point out, though. d.o.j. doesn't need a criminal referral from congress to take action against donald trump. there is no such thing, really. i mean, d.o.

committee and he i worked together and we were -- election night -- no one thought she could win, claire mccaskill, missouri, heavily republican state, and she's won. people talk about it now. those around us there where she was on the screen and i walked up and kissed her right on the lips. so i felt the importance of the senate at that time because of that one election. no one thought we could do that. we became, out of nowhere, and i became majority leader so there were times i felt the importance of the senate. there are many times i could drive to work. that way when you go home, it's behind you. but drive to work. look up at the capitol. used to be, one of my duties as a police officer, cranking up the flags. but now hundreds of them were distributed to people every day, flags flown over the capitol and there's a flag and i'm part of that capitol so i feel that on occasion. >> are there some special spaces in this building that are quiet places of reflection for you? >> for me, i have -- i know this building so well because i worked here as a policeman. so i know places that i used to go stu

committee and he i worked together and we were -- election night -- no one thought she could win, claire mccaskill, missouri, heavily republican state, and she's won. people talk about it now. those around us there where she was on the screen and i walked up and kissed her right on the lips. so i felt the importance of the senate at that time because of that one election. no one thought we could do that. we became, out of nowhere, and i became majority leader so there were times i felt the importance of the senate. there are many times i could drive to work. that way when you go home, it's behind you. but drive to work. look up at the capitol. used to be, one of my duties as a police officer, cranking up the flags. but now hundreds of them were distributed to people every day, flags flown over the capitol and there's a flag and i'm part of that capitol so i feel that on occasion. >> are there some special spaces in this building that are quiet places of reflection for you? >> for me, i have -- i know this building so well because i worked here as a policeman. so i know places that i used to go stu

i would play something that claire mccaskill said on this network. >> the failure of america to have free available rapid tests is really being shown right now. what happened? who dropped the ball on rapid, cheap tests for america? i need the biden administration to step up and fix that today. >> obviously, the problem is, you can't fix it today, the time to have fixed it was months ago, ann, and the ministrations of they finalize the deal for 500 million test, they will get them out to people next month, but where does that leave us? how significant is that, given where we know where overcrowding is now? >> -- oh, my kron omicron is now. >> we are going to have a tsunami of cases, we will be swimming in rapid test, we should be, everybody should have one just like they do in many other countries, europe is done a very good job at this. if you're going out to dinner with friends, you should be able to rapid test. if you're going to have a gathering with people, you should be able to rapid test, if you're going to work you should be able to, if your child is going to school you should

senator now nbc news and msnbc political analyst claire mccaskill.

i think everyone whole heartedly agrees, claire mccaskill. she has chairman thompson. >> it will come out. >> have you spoken directly to mr. meadows at all? you're communicating with counsel but since he did serve in this body have you spoken with him directly? >> no i have not. we've only communicated with mr. meadows through his attorney. >> that was a small sampling of the text messages read today. what else can you tell us about mark meadows' role on that day and leading up to that day? >> the information we received has been quite revealing about members of congress involved in the activities of january 6th as well as staff. >> are you going to subpoena some of these members of congress? >> chairman thompson if the process doesn't ensure you get more information from mr. meadows how are you going to ensure that? >> that was senator thompson getting into the elevator after saying that information will come out eventually. we'll find out who some of these lawmakers were and we know some were actively rooting for the insurrection including

last time he was there, claire mccaskill really -- >> she eviscerated him. >> that's a very nice word- >> for being a -- >> for being an alleged quackery. >> but in this country, even a snake oil salesman can be a politician. so isn't that -- >> where have we seen that before? and that's what he's really trying to do. hugging donald trump. really going for donald trump's endorsement. i think we saw from the virginia race that gubernatorial race that hugging donald trump might not be the best option if you want to win statewide as well as you really need to be well versed in local issues. you are not from pennsylvania, dr. oz. you are a great surgeon, i'm sure, but in terms of the kind of day-to-day and ins and outs of folks in pennsylvania, i don't know that he's going to -- >> we love people from new jersey, don't we, congressman? they're great drivers. >> the idea of someone like pat toomey who is pennsylvania, i mean, through and through. >> and casey. >> but it is a head scratcher. >> this seat is open because pat toomey was going to be facing a tough re-election in large measure.

elizabeth warren, adam schiff, claire mccaskill.our. with all of those people. >> wow. and you. and you too. >> i have to get out of the way. they have important things today. i just have to turn on their microphones. it is one of those nights. >> i will get out of your, way so that you can get out of their way. >> thank you, rachel. >> thanks, lawrence. >>

i want to play something that claire mccaskill said on this network. >> the failure of america to have free available rapid tests is really being shown right now. what happened? who dropped the ball on rapid, cheap tests for americans? i need the biden administration to step up and fix that today. >> well, obviously, and the problem is you can't fix it today. the time to fix it for this christmas was months ago, so, look, the administration said they finalized the deal for 500 million tests. they're going to get them out to people next month, but where does that leave us? how significant is that given what we know about where omicron is now? >> chris, those 500 million tests are going to be a drop in the bucket when we have a tsunami of cases that are going to be washing over us. we need to be literally swimming in rapid tests at this point. everybody should be able to have a rapid test whenever they need one, just like they do in many other countries. europe has done a very good job at this. if you're going out to dinner with friends, you should be able to rapid test. if you are going

just remember the point that i think representative cheney made so effectively last night, claire mccaskill pointed this out. what she really said was look at the time line. mark meadows was ccomplying. he was turning over all these documents until his book, and then his book comes out, and then suddenly he's not talking anymore, and he's not going to cooperate, but yet he's publicly talking, but he's only talking to the spin room for donald trump. and that is simply in congress when there are all kinds of reasons why these communications are privileged and they should be allowed under their constitutional power as representative raskin said, if we can't do it here, when will we ever be able to do it because it's central to what we have the right to figure out whether we can stop insurrections in the future and how to do that. so i do think there is a lot of imperative here for this to move quickly to get to resolution because it is so critically important and because it does implicate a crime. and there's one fact that i wish the committee had spoken to last night, although i thought they

lawrence tribe, cecile richards, elizabeth warren, adam schiff, claire mccaskill.e going to do right here in this hour with all of those people. >> wow. and you, too. >>

. >> let's bring in claire mccaskill.on that certain network once again, saying this was a con pir si that you know i wonder why they are cooking it up now and cooking up these variants. it's like these friends of mine that i talk to who ask them the stupidest questions of vaccines. wait, look at what i have been doing for 50 years. it's complete detachment from reality which is what the big lie is about. just completely shape people up and disconnect them from reality. >> the jarring part of this now foundational part of the republican party is you have them out of one side of their mouth talking about life and arguing that we need to blow up 50 years of precedents giving women control of their own party over life and out of the other side of their mouth they're saying don't wear a mask and don't take a vaccine and ignore science and pay attention to people like you know shock jocks and far-right circus clowns that are trying to make fun of science that saves lives? which are they? are they the party of death or life? i

former missouri democratic senator claire mccaskill and national review editor rich lowery. set up the conversation with a couple of poll numbers. here's the -- our last msnbc poll on views on abortion. and i put -- we have four categories here. legal always, excuse me here, i want to go down here. we don't have it right. the poll numbers -- always legal is 31%. most of the time was 23%. on those that want it more illegal, illegal with exceptions, 34%, without exceptions, 8%. again, there's a typo on the graphic that some people are seeing there on the always. my apologies for that. and then on the issue of overturning roe, 32% are for overturning it, 58% for not overturning it. so i just wanted to set that table. it is a -- an issue that we're divided on, but there is a slight majority in favor of legal -- legal right to abortion. claire, the political significance in your mind of a full overturn come june? >> well, if roe v. wade is completely overturned, then state legislatures are going to have their say, and in my state, for example, they have already spoken. they alrea

is also here, former deputy national security advise or to president obama and former senator claire mccaskill joins us. luke, i start with you, and your reporting. tell me -- i think to someone who isn't in trump world and who suspect a lawyer it is confounding that some of the most devastating evidence about what has been turned over about what was the white house chief of staff was into, if you will is now approximate to face a criminal contempt of congress referral. what is at play. mr. terwilliger is not a newby. he's not a yule joule. he's not of that ilk of the law. what's going on? >> so, it is hard to understand exactly what their motivations are, but according to mr. terwilliger, their strategy was to participate as much as possible with the committee to avoid a contempt charge while still respecting the assertion of executive privilege by mark meadows's former boss, former president trump. so mark meadows is stuck, perhaps, between a rock and a hard place here. he doesn't want to offense or alienate his former boss who has said not to cooperate with the committee and has exerted exe

also joining us, msnbc political analyst, claire mccaskill and bart gelman, staff writer at the atlantic. bart, yesterday, i didn't want to embarrass you today, but i'll go ahead and do it. i said the sort of genre of journalism has a new standard bearer in you and this reporting. i wonder if we can put this piece of reporting in the frame of the election. so much of what you warned about and you quote people for that piece, all of it and more has come to pass. tell me about this moment now and what the future portends. >> the movement now is that we are in a place where republican operatives and conservatives and trump allies are analyzing everything that went wrong in the coup attempt last time. everything that thwarted trump. whether it was georgia, the secretary of state saying no, we will not find 12,000 more votes for trump than actually exist or whether it was court cases or legislatures. and they're going around methodically and finding ways to cure the defects as they see it, that prevented them from having the coup last time. so they're changing laws. they are, they're sort of