claire shipman, i have known for a while. what is your definition, now, of success? >> i am most proud of having achieved a life between a balance of a career and the four kids i have, and my husband, too. it is having work that i find interesting, and that satisfies me professionally, and also having time for a life. having achieved that balance, and setting out to achieve it, is what i feel is really a success. >> if you turn the clock back 10 or 15 years, when it was a woman's obligation or duty to get a job, get on a treadmill, are those is familiar to you? >> very much so. my mother, if there is one thing i remember, she died when i was 20, she wanted my sister and i to work. that is what she wanted for us. she wanted us out of ohio, where we grew up. i never heard anything about having a family. i never had any doubt that i would work. i never thought it would be an issue. i thought i could achieve what i wanted to achieve. i woke up at age 35 and i thought something is missing. i am glad i caught it when i did. >> we're talking now about the job, a partner, a