director clapper: there could be. what we see is, they are very sensitive to opposition demonstrations in the street. they are very sensitive about a color revolution occurring in russia itself. that is another reason why putin reacted to the situation in ukraine, because he believed we instigated that as another color revolution. ukraine is right on his doorstep and that, in turn, posed an existential threat to russia. senator reed: changing gears, the iranians have an explicit presence in iraq today, and we have forces there. in the next few days or weeks there are two possible triggering events. one would be more aggressive action against assad regime in syria. another would be the resolution of the negotiations with the iranians on their nuclear program. do you have any views with respect to what might happen in iraq, with respect to iranian forces which are now sort of -- not cooperating with us, but -- director clapper: is your question that is there a connection between the nuclear -- senator reed: would there

it's important to compare director clapper's testimony with that of the secretary of state earlier. director clapper our director of national intelligence, said there are more deaths are from state-sponsored mass killings, more people displaced from their homes and a higher rate of political instability last year than we've seen in decades. in fact, 2014 was the most lethal year on record for terrorism. we are now facing unpredictable instability as the new normal, according to this administration 's director of national intelligence. the white house foreign policy team however seems unwilling to accept these harsh truths. listen to the words of secretary of state john kerry our chief negotiator with iran. he said in contrast to the words of our director of national intelligence secretary kerry said we are actually living in a period of less daily threat to americans and to people in the world than normally, less deaths less violent deaths today than throughout the last century. it's hard to square the testimony of our chief negotiator with iran with the words of our director of nat

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that's director p clapper. now, only a few days before secretary of state kerry told the house foreign affairs committee that quote: we are actually living in a period of less daily threats to americans and to people in the world normally. less deaths, less violent deaths today than through the last century. now, secretary carter, are we living in a period of less daily threats to americans? >> um, senator, i didn't -- i haven't seen that particular -- >> that's the exact quote. >> secretary kerry or what the context of that was but i would say two things. one is to get back to what director clapper said about an uncertain world and one in which things new and different threats are constantly emerging, i would agree with that completely. and i just simply done know what secretary kerry said in that particular instance, senator, what the context for it was. but we certainly have serious threats to the united states around the world. i guess it is a good thing that we have combated terrorism as vigorously as we h

it's important to compare director clapper's testimony with that of the secretary of state

that's director clapper.y a few days before secretary of state kerry told the house foreign affairs committee that quote, we are actually living in a period of less daily threat to americans and to people in the world. less deaths, less violent deaths today than through the last century. now, secretary carter are we living in a period of less daily threats to americans? >> senator, i didn't -- i haven't seen that particular -- >> that's the quote. >> -- of secretary kerry or the context of that was. but i would say two things. one is, to get back to what director clapper said about an uncertain world and one in which things -- new and different threats are constantly emerging i would agree with that completely. and i just simply don't know what secretary kerry said in that particular instance, senator, or what the context for it was. but we certainly have serious threats to the united states around the world. i guess i'm -- it is a good thing that we have combatted terrorism as vigorous as we have since 2001.

keeping tracks of threats against america is the job of james clapper the direct your of national intelligence. today in an interview on my pbs program, i ask him how he balances calls for better surveillance with accusations that the government goes too far. >> i've been on the receiving end of virtually all the post-event critiques and investigations to include 9/11 and since. and i do find some irony in light of all the other fault over the last two years that a common theme of every one of those critiques has been that the government should have been more intrusive. it's true of the christmas bomber. it's true of ford hoot and it's true of the boston marathon. >> rose: that meant to you what? >> it means that we're supposed to do more intensive surveillance of people who live in this country. >> rose: so the irony is they want you in terms of those specific instance, there's a call for more intrusiveness, and yet the response to the edward snowden disclosures is too intrusive? >> exactly. >> rose: do you have the tools and the resources now to do the job we expect you to do with respect to

that is director clapper. only a few days for secretary of state kerry told the house foreign affairs committee that we are actually living in a period of less daily threats to americans and less violent deaths today than in the last century. secretary carter, are we living in a area of less daily threats to americans? secretary carter: i have not seen that or what the contents of that was, but i would say two things. to get back to what director clapper said about an uncertain world and one in which things new and friend threats are constantly emerging i agree with that completely and i just don't know what secretary kerry said in that particular instance or what the context for it was. we certainly have context around the world. it is a good thing that we have combated terrorism as vigorously as we have since 2001. we made a lot of changes changes in intelligence and the artman of defense so we have upped -- in the department of defense, so we have upped our game considerably. opponents and terrorist continu

tonight an clue conversation with the director of national intelligence, james clapper. >> major take away for me, after the snowden leaks, we do need to be, the intelligence community needs to be more transparent. my father was an army intelligence officer and i've been doing this a long too many, over 50 years so it's almost genetically an at this time cull >> rose: for the hour. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> rose: additional funding provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> rose: james clapper is here. he is the director of national intelligence. he is responsible for grafting intelligence gathered by the 16 agencies that makes up the u.s. intelligence agency. the cia, fbi and nsa. he testified last week before the senate arms service committee on the worldwide threat to u.s. national security. i'm pleased to have him here at this table for the first time. welcome. >> thanks charlie. >> rose:

that is director clapper. a few days before, secretary of state terri told the house foreign affairs committee that we are actually living in a period of us daily threat to americans and to people in the world than normally. less that some less violent deaths than through the last century. now, secretary carter, are we living in a period of less daily threats to americans? mr. carter: senator, i have not seen that quote a secretary kerry in the context. i would say two things. one is get back to what director clapper said about an uncertain world and one in which things -- new and different threats are constantly emerging, i would agree with that completely. and i cynthia did not know what secretary kerry said in that particular instance senator, or what that context for it was. but we certainly have serious threats to the united states around the world. it is a good thing that we have combated terrorism as vigorous as we have since 2001, and we have made a lot of changes, a new department of homeland security

that is director clapper. a few days before, secretary of state kerry told the house foreign affairs committee that we are actually living in a period of us daily threat to americans and to people in the world than normally. less that some less violent deaths than through the last century. now, secretary carter, are we living in a period of less daily threats to americans? mr. carter: senator, i have not seen that quote a secretary kerry in the context. i would say two things. one is get back to what director clapper said about an uncertain world and one in which things -- new and different threats are constantly emerging, i would agree with that completely. and i do not know what secretary kerry said in that particular instance, senator, or what that context for it was. but we certainly have serious threats to the united states around the world. it is a good thing that we have combated terrorism as vigorous as we have since 2001, and we have made a lot of changes, a new department of homeland security, a lot

james clapper said go ahead and let one of the most embattled provisions to the patriot act expire. don't blame them one another terrorist attack happens. and i think that he's just talking about the fear is. james clapper gave a bald-faced lie as to whether or not he knew that the government was spying on the citizens of this country. would you say to people who tell you that i don't care about this, i just don't want another terrorist attack. >> well terrorism is a real problem. it's a real security issue. we have the occasional shooting from someone who has perhaps been motivated by this stuff were someone who is mentally ill. so terrorists have sticks and stones another way of thinking about it. and that was real and serious especially to the families of those people and a small pinprick of the 300 million people. what is going on is like a cancer on the constitution. it is degrading our societal norms. so we really need to stand by our constitution and to intelligence that is based on law. that the people can oversee. not seek records coming up with secret interpretations. then

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clapper, the most intelligent in history is a fairy tale.orld wide threat assessment is anything but. we are looking at, can't we all get along what i'm told sean is that the classified version isn't much better it hassome intelligence in it. this is anything but a a national strategy document. it's supposed to help shape how you're going to protect american people against the threat. >> that wonderful comment about the president of iran though he were a decent guy, just trying to get the supreme leader to go along with it. bottom line of it is that you just pointed out, it violates every agreement ever made, and there is still the number one threat of terrorism in the world. this doesn't mention that it gives isis exclusive coverage and that says israel is not threatened because they're not covered >> let's take a look at the threats coming from iranian leaders. their position is that israel must be up rooted from the region, then, the rabid dog of israelis, then going back to mahmoud ahmadinejad god willing we shall soon experience the wor

good morning. >> good morning, charlie. >> could you hear what clapper said?> i did. >> what is your assessment of what iran can do today? >> iran is i think, the most effective fighting force inside of iraq. they have trained, supplied 100,000 militia. that compares to 50,000 iraqi security forces who are not very effective. the iranians are on the ground fighting with those militia. general clapper is right. they have sent a lot of heavy weaponry in and providing a lot of funds. they are the most effective fighting force today. >> what are the implications of that? >> as they push into areas i think one of the things you are going to see given the tension is you will see arabs come over to the side of isil. from a propaganda perspective this will be a bonanza for isis. however, over time i think the iranians will be effective because they have more fire power. there is a real risk that we can defeat isis in iraq but we might hand iraq to the iranians in a diplomatic sense. >> we want to talk to you about the tape that we played earlier about the man known ad

general clapper is right. they sent a lot of heavy weaponry in. they are the most effective fighting force. >> what are the implications of that? >> as they push as the shia militia and iranians push into sunni areas, i think one of the things you will see given this sunni shia tension, you will see sunni arabs come to the side of isil. from the propaganda perspective, this is a bonanza for isis. however, over time i think the iranians will be affected. they have more fire power. there is a risk over the long run we can defeat iraq but hand iraq to the iranians in a diplomatic sense. >> we want to talk to you, mike about the tape we played earlier about the man known as jihadi john in 2009. he seemed to be rejecting extremism and fast forward to 2015, he is a poster boy for extremism. how does that happen in that period of time? what happened to him? >> so five years is a long period of time. it is not short. a lot can happen in five years. i think the first thing to remember. the second thing to remember is that we don't really know how he got ra

clapper released that. >> that number, the 40 is accurate, congressman? >> well he's now disclosed that so that is an accurate number, yes. >> there was a move when we were first learning of those that go abroad that hook up with isis that their passport should be revoked. why aren't we doing something like that because they're dangerous to put it mildly coming back here. >> you know, we have stopped a lot of americans that have attempted to go to syria. it is ones that have gotten over there that we don't -- remember, don't have good intelligence footprint in syria, don't know who's on the ground there. the main goal there is to stop not only western europeans but americans that could be traveling out of the region back into the united states. that's a number one homeland security goal and threat to the home land, and that's a great challenge. >> i guess we have this home land funding resolved for the time being. do you think it has injured republicans more to the point, conservative republicans that played into the administration's hands or what are you

what's important right now is what james clapper said. there is an uptick in the level of terrorism. and specific incidents of people being killed. and that threat is very, very real. nobody's trying to minimize it. president obama has put together a coalition of countries that have come together. we're all superfocused on this. and we're focused on the internet cyberspace battle also. we have a center being stood up in abu dhabi. >> mr. secretary? >> yeah. >> mr. secretary, i want to move forward to mosul. i know your efforts by setting up these internets. in mosul, it's a hugely important city. second largest city. when will the iraqis be ready to retake mosul? will it happen this spring? will it happen in the fall? >> um, martha. contrary to what was in the newspaper earlier sometime in the week, we're not going to advertise when that will happen. it will happen. we're not going to talk about the strategy. we're not going to lay out the plans. the iraqis are working hard to come up to speed. there's a lot of effort being put into this.

. >> wayne, the director clapper and fbi director both said these are very very dangerous times right now. yet your president obama and we just heard secretary of state kerry saying no things aren't that bad. >> well eric to say that they are wrong is the easy to say and they are. i mean at one point they said sovereign extremists are more dangerous than isis. isis is a fan at cal religious group it's not just an etiology they are out destroying artifact that are christian, they are out destroying all civilization. they're barbarians. these are nuts. these are crazy people and we've got to stop them and i don't know what the president is thinking when he says they won't use the phrase extremists and won't use the phrase islamic extremists. >> well, that's it. wayne, he will use the term extremist when we had the seminar on violent extremism. >> right wing extremists. >> that's going to be obama's no new taxes. the message has been look away. i mean don't even say the term islamic extremism, islamic terrorism, it's isil, isis violent extremists it's evading 30 plus years of islamic ter

clapper, at the house committee, he was saying that because of the different ways of approaching the syrian crisis, there is a tension rising between turkey and u.s. bilateral relations. would you be able to come on this? how this clash is arising at the moment? >> well i haven't seen those comments. so i'm not sure what the director intended. we've been cooperating for months in the fight against isil with turkey. across all of the lines of effort. that includes on the one hand trying to stop the flow of foreign fighters includes on the financial side also includes on the delegitimization of isil as well as on train and equip. so we have a productive relationship with turkey in the fight against isil and we expect it to continue. >> reporter: there was a letter sent from congressman keatings office to secretary kerry also joined by [ inaudible ] higher ranking members of the house foreign relations committee. it is about establishing a platform. have you seen the letter first of all, establishing a platform between the turkey and the u.s. in regards to human rights problems and rule

clapper is right. he's right on the history. it's not as bad as world war i or world war ii. be happy we don't have the same 20th century threats, but clapper is right terrorism is bad. >> this is after 21 christians were beheaded and individuals burned for their religion. the jordan pilot burned alive and a threat in our mall. we're in a situation that does not feel safe. >> he said yesterday, if we don't fight isis there we fight them here. he's a democrat, so you wonder where that was coming from, and you have king abdullah giving a report and he leads jordan and the king saw his pilot burned. let's not look at the stats and decide we're safer than ever before, but made the mission clear. >> if isis or dash as we call them try to intimidate the jordanians, that has the reverse effect. look at our history we're a country used to being outgunned and outnumbered. we've always punched way above our weight and if anything, it is a tiger by the tail, and it just motivated jordan to rally around the flag and the gloves have come off. >> the gloves have come off. >> the key is to

iran and hezbollah off the list that is submitted by the director of national intelligence james clapper, to the senate. i guess hezbollah and iran aren't terrorist groupings anymore. lou: it's important to -- >> it's ridiculous. lou: and jim it's also important to remind folks that was an early iranian demand for negotiation itself. and succeeded as the deadline approaches. let me turn to another aspect of this administration's foreign policy when it comes to denial. it seems that they are resistant to putin's aggression whether it be in ukraine or eastern ukraine. they simply don't address it. they don't speak to it and therefore it doesn't exist in the national liberal media. it is a peculiar time which we live. >> putin without the nazi racism is behaving exactly the way hitler did after he became chancellor in 1933. in the late 30s, by going to supposed assistance of people like the germans who are trapped in another country, hitler expanded and expanded and expanded and that was his mode of operations, and it's putin's. we really need a churchill, and i'm afraid we've got a chamber

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and as a matter of record, the president says to jim clapper, we've got a north american nexus to thisthreat? is this only about the middle east? and jim, because of this program, because we were tracking the program through phone numbers, was able to jam those phone numbers up against the metadata program, came up empty, and said no, mr. president, we have no evidence that there's a north american nexus here. which is one very useful for security. but you realize it's also very useful for liberty. because if the president was genuinely concerned that it had a north american nexus, what were his other options? to give him confidence that he could keep you safe. >> a couple of -- a couple of comments. you only talked about the first half of general alexander's testimony, in which he testified under oath, in response to the either house or senate intelligence committee. i don't remember which. that it was 54 or 57 plots that were stopped as a result of nsa spying. the next day general alexander wrote to amend his testimony to say it wasn't 54, it was 3. and when asked to identify the thr

. >> reporter: clapper suggested that the u.s. send drones to libya or partner with france to work out how many isis members are there and what threat they pose to the u.s. and allies. one of the central figures in libya is abdull ha a j. he was the go to partner to over throw the dhik dictator and now a lined with onsaralsharia. this group is seen as a statement of isis strength in that part of the country. and it was designed to further draw in egypt in the conflict. critics say the new position as a safe haven for isis reflects the significant policy failures of the arab spring. >> thank you. >> and a deadly shooting captured on video and what happened in the dramatic moments before police opened fire and the the latest in the investigation. haven't we seen enough snow. and mother nature not letting up and a crippling round could be on the way. now with the xfinity tv go app, you can watch live tv anytime. it's never been easier with so many networks all in one place. get live tv whenever you want. the xfinity tv go app. now wi

you had james clapper testifying before congress, director of national intelligence saying they will return to the fight. >> even today the white house's response is we don't leave anyone behind. if it turns out he is a desserter we will deal with that after the fact. we were pulling back from the battlefield in afghanistan. is that a legitimate argument? >> first of all i don't think that is actually true. secondly, if you look at the cost in this kind of a swap whether talking about snatch and grab operation or talking about a prisoner trade you know that in the discussions with the cuban government about the new policy that they saw this trade and said we can press a harder bargain. you have people risking their lives to look for him and there was probable cause to believe he may have been with them voluntarily. >> even if you say we don't leave anyone behind that doesn't mean you turn them into a hero before you know the facts. >> they have a fundamental problem in this white house and this town of thinking that just because we say something that american people are going to beli

. >> reporter: james clapper recently testified that libya is not only a safe haven for isis but at least five other terror groups. it's the kind of freedom to train and fund raise that afghanistan guaranteed al qaeda and taliban before 9/11. also said the u.s. should send surveillance to libya or partner with france to identify the threat posed to the u.s. and >> from an intelligence perspective we i think clearly need to step up our game. >> reporter: after the libyan dictator was pushed out with the support of nato in the u.s. libya descended into civil war. a central player was once quoted by the obama administration and members of congress but leads a political sanction that supports establishment of law. >> some analysts believe the influence of isis is overstate skpd the group will have profound difficulty navigating the complex dynamic of tribes, militias and political groups. >>> a government watch dog report says the nation's air traffic control system is at increased risk of being hacked. the government accountability office says while the faa has taken steps to protect that sy

in an interview james clapper said iran is providing weapons to fight the terrorist group. he also said iran has the capacity to build a nuclear bomb but it's not clear whether the country will do that. >>> recreational pot is legal in d.c. the council is holding an emergency vote to clarify that law. the council will vote on a pot club ban. the clubs allow to pay a membership fee like a gym and smoke inside. under the law the clubs would be considered public places where it would be illegal to light up. >>> and the national park service just announced its prediction for peak bloom dates for the cherry blossom e trees. richard jordan was at that news conference and joins us live from outside the museum. what are the dates? >> reporter: let's cut to the chase. april 11th through april 14th that is the prediction from the national park service on when the majority of the cherry trees will be in bloom. it is cutting it very close for this year's cherry blossom festival because the festival is scheduled for three weeks from march 20th until april 12th. again that peak april 11t

it does more than the clapper. >> a lot to expect out of your bed. >> reporter: a lot to expect out of the weather. we have rain, but we had snow showers earlier. we are transitioning to mainly rain. i had snowflakes on the terrace moments ago that's changing over to rain after wet snowflakes and showers came through this morning. the rain up see moving south of philadelphia is very light at this point. although it will be probably with us through the morning commute in south jersey. it's on its way in right now. taking a look outside, we have cloudy skies across the region. the surface at the airport is a little bit damp. earlier snow showers came through, it did not accumulate on concrete surfaces, but did make them damp. temperatures fortunately above freezing. as we look at the wide map we didn't get much of an impact from the snow. 35 degrees in philadelphia. 34 in allentown. obviously all these numbers above freezing which help us out. as we take a look at anyone more precipitation coming through again, during the morning hours we'll see this popping toward the east. by 9:00, 10:

. >> there are others including the director of national intelligence, james clapper who have said the action he taken by wikileaks are not only deplorable irresponsible and reprehensible they could have major impacts on our national security. why doesn't he just come to the u.s. and face justice? >> well, i might say there's almost no defense in the united states for espionage charges. you basically don't have a defense. and what -- >> but we don't know if he is going to be charged with espionage yet. >> that is certainly the investigation, the grand jury has been investigating espionage, it is an espionage investigation. as far as the u.s. position is here what julian asange published were war crimes, that were allegedly given to wikileaks by chelsea manning and others. >> he also published the identities of journalists and informants who have on both sides of the aisle who have endangered lives. >> that is not the case and at the manning trial they tried to prove that manning had somehow endangered people's lives by giving out this information. they couldn't come up with one instanc

iran and hezbollah off the list that is submitted by the director of national intelligence james clapper, to the senate. i guess hezbollah and iran aren't terrorist groupings anymore. lou: it's important to -- >> it's ridiculous. lou: and jim it's also important to remind folks that was an early iranian demand for negotiation itself. and succeeded as the deadline approaches. let me turn to another aspect of this administration's foreign policy when it comes to denial. it seems that they are resistant to putin's aggression whether it be in ukraine or eastern ukraine. they simply don't address it. they don't speak to it and therefore it doesn't exist in the national liberal media. it is a peculiar time which we live. >> putin without the nazi racism is behaving exactly the way hitler did after he became chancellor in 1933. in the late 30s, by going to supposed assistance of people like the germans who are trapped in another country, hitler expanded and expanded and expanded and that was his mode of operations, and it's putin's. we really need a churchill, and i'm afraid we've got a chamber

clapper said cybersecurity is a bigger threat to our nation than international terrorism and that is probably true but the spending in our government which does get it and is expert is about more on terrorisms fibers of the security. most of us in the room making in this space are not nearly enough. we need more efforts and funding and much more investment and thinking about this. otherwise we will continue. >> last question. >> small company in virginia. a couple comments. i mostly disagree with the panel on metrics. it is measuring outcomes with the framework being rosetta stone is the ideal framework for measuring progress and outcomes among different organizations even though they do it differently and if you want to know how there is some measurement is that everyone ought to be measuring, how do they respond and do they respond to those priority indicators and security breach? because they don't. those breaches there are indicators of compromise. there are indicators. we miss them and it goes back to what mr. fitch said, process control management in the cybersecurity framework

. >> all of a sudden the president is saying never been a safer world and then clapper says it is the most lethal war year in terrorism of all time, 2014. i think the new bumper sticker for the left should be obama lied and people died. >> that was good. i like it. >> juan earlier this week you had a chance to be at the white house. i know you can't say anything from that meeting, but if you could just give us a sense -- are they divorced from reality? do they recognize the contradiction that continues to pop up that they did run him on re-election saying terrorism is calming down around the world. things are better in the middle east. you are worst problems now than a few years ago. do they recognize that? >> i don't think we have worse problems now except with regard to al qaeda. that is i think the flaw in the ointment here. you guys can bring up climate change and all of this stuff. the reality is bin laden was killed by this president. he killed bin laden. i think the american people responded. the second thing is al qaeda has not been able to organize another attack against the

i just asked for any of your thoughts on clapper not designating hamas and iran now as threats to ourof shocksed that they're not included in threats to our national security. i'm curious about your thoughts. also when it comes to dealing with with with. also when it comes to dealing with isil, we're seeing iran and their allies invading other countries. so this muddled mess, one day the shiites are our allies the next the sunnis are our allies. depending on what country if you're dealing in yemen the iran backed forces are our enemy and they're a problem yet when we're fighting against isis they're our allies. it's a very confusing mess. for us in congress to end up, you know, developing an aumf, it becomes very, very complicated and i'm just curious your thoughts on that. >> confusing mess is actually a good term for the environment that we find today in the region. it's a very difficult environment. it is one that is characterized by long term social difficulties as we explained to congresswoman frankel. it's one where there have been long term insurgencies and disruptions of the s

according to the clapper. 180 of them have returned or gone to the region. we have a number i can't disclose publicly here in the united states. they're foreign fighters. in addition to that the home grown extremists who can be inspired and radicalized over the internet is what greatly concerns me. i think unfortunately, it would be not so difficult to pull off. >> thank you very much for joining us chairman mccaul. >>> now joining us general carterham, retired chair of u.s.-africa command. i want to talk to you about the threats to the family specifically. you heard chairman mccaul saying it's possible the threats can be carried out. what does it do to a military community? >> it's disconcerting to the families, the specific families but more broadly across the armed services. to know that those who engage in social media, that that information now can be corrupted and used by a terrorist organization to threaten them. and in worst case what they hope to do is inspire or motivate someone here in the united states to attack or kill these service members or t

yet a week earlier, general clapper said isil remains a formidable and brutal threat.f the threat is real and requires a carefully coordinated strategy to ensure they complete destruction. i look forward to hearing from you in defining the breadth and scope of our mission. i remain open-minded as to what gets the most support but want to understand the details and to fully know that we aren't unnecessarily restraining or restricting our ability to win. to secretary carter in your remarks you state -- and i quote from your remarks, i cannot tell you our campaign to defeat isil will be completed in three years, yet you believe the sunset clause is a sensible and principaled provision. you have heard genor johnson, genor flake, secretary kerry all talk about this. if the aumf is not authorized in three years, the next president would continue using other authorities such as the 2001 aumf. >> that is correct. that is the legal interpretation of the 2001 aumf. although the stated intent of the -- the president is to revisit the 2001 aumf after this one as well. he has said