james clapper has been there for all of it. he is a controversial figure in lots of different circles for lots of different reasons because he's been at least tangentially and centrally involved, in many cases, in just about every intelligence story that's made the news in the last 40 years. and intelligence stories rarely become news when something is good, it's because something went bad. in this book, james clapper is scathing about president trump, which is remarkable itself, coming from a career nonpartisan military and intel guy who has served under every president since john f. kennedy. but -- listen to this. this comes right at the end of the book. the last giant intelligence story and scandal that clapper was right in the middle of things for was obviously the russian attack on the 2016 election. you heard me read the part where he said that was the reason why he decided to write a book. the book explains in great detail what the intelligence community new about the russian attack, how they responded, what decisions we

i've known clapper for years. clapper used to be a serious professional.ow is pathetic. >> sean: what about brennan? >> brennan was a member of the communist party of the usa. only obama would pick an exclusive communist to be the head of the cia. not sure who he thought brennan would protect from who. here's the point, brennan is this problem, comey has this problem, clapper has this problem, and all of this, the truth you'll find out, it goes right into the white house. >> sean: there is no doubt. >> i have zeroed out. >> sean: if the truth comes out, it will go right to the obama white house, and rice and power and ben rhodes and the rest of them. >> given the way they ran a very tight operation, does anybody believe that valerie jarrett didn't know the stuff? >> sean: "the new york times" trying to do catcher, which i thought was vindication in a way but in another way, just trying to spin it, they revealed very early on when that trip took place to great britain, that in fact there were deep negotiations with downer with the state department that had

clapper has a lot to and for. so what clapper is saying we weaponizeed the intelligence community to spy on a campaign. we were concerned about the russians. but what about the $500,000 that clinton got for a speech in 2010 he gave to renaissance capital that is connected to the k.g.b. by this bank? did they have spies with bill clinton at the time where people investigating the clintons and the clinton foundation during that time? i don't think so. this is a very well-orchestrated, it appears, plan. so spy on a presidential campaign. this is well partisan. this involves brennan, clapper, u.s. and foreign assets. i think we are only seeing the top of this iceberg. i would like to see this unravel. i have questions what is going on in england at the time in the united kingdom. >> sean: you have a lot of reporting i know is coming as you have been telling me. look, david, look at this from the legal side. this is a politically target targeted. they didn't have spies in hillary campaign. weaponizing the powerful tool

he is turning the tables on officials like james clapper, comey, clapper playing defense on cnn, denyinge committed crimes. clapper saying the intent was not to spy on the trump camp but to see what the russians were doing. that's a change from march 20. all of this to call clapper a lying machine. today he added it was good for firing james comey, the president calling tremendous lies about surveillance and other matter. notice comey today shifted his own story as well. look at this tweet. facts matter. the fbi use of confidential sources, tightly regulated and essential. it happened but regulated, attacks on the fbi and lying about the work will do lasting damage on the country. how will republicans explain this to their grandchildren. >> they tried to stop them from meeting about the classified intelligence. chuck schumer insisting democrats being added. white house officials shut that talk down saying democrats get a second briefing after memorial day. the president told reporters he wants truth. >> we are calling it spy gate. a lot of bad things have happened. i want them all to get

so clapper has a lot to answer for.ut basically what clapper is saying, we weaponized the intelligence community to spy on a campaign because we were concerned about the russians. sean, what about the $500,000 that bill clinton got in 2010 for a speech he gave to renaissance capital, which come by the way, is very well-connected to the kgb? did they have a spy with bill clinton at the time, were people investigating the clintons and the clinton foundation during that time? i don't think so. this is i a very well orchestrated, it appears, plan to spy on a presidential campaign, and it's was very well partisan, it involved john brennan, clapper, it involved foreignn assets, it involved u.. assets, and i think we are only seeing the top of this iceberg. i would like to see this unravel. i have a lot of questions about what i was going on in england t the time.. >> sean: you have a lot of reporting that i know is coming, as you have been telling me. david, let's look at this from the legal side. this is a pollute to politic

clapper has a lot to and for. so what clapper is saying we weaponizeed the intelligence community to spy on a campaign. we were concerned about the russians. but what about the $500,000 that clinton got for a speech in 2010 he gave to renaissance capital that is connected to the k.g.b. by this bank? did they have spies with bill clinton at the time where people investigating the clintons and the clinton foundation during that time? i don't think so. this is a very well-orchestrated, it appears, plan. so spy on a presidential campaign. this is well partisan. this involves brennan, clapper, u.s. and foreign assets. i think we are only seeing the top of this iceberg. i would like to see this unravel. i have questions what is going on in england at the time in the united kingdom. >> sean: you have a lot of reporting i know is coming as you have been telling me. look, david, look at this from the legal side. this is a politically target targeted. they didn't have spies in hillary campaign. weaponizing the powerful tool

back, no james clapper, i'm not lappy and it would be a scandal to boot and even clapper, who has the problem of lying a lot, used the word "spy" when describing illegal activities. let us take a second and general clapper has served this country for nearly six decades as a marine and then in the air force rising to the rank of a three star lieutenant general and served as director of the defense intelligence agency from 1991 to 95 and director of national intelligence in 2010 which he oversaw 16 different agencies. joining me now is retired general james clapper and he is out with a new book titled "facts and fears" hard truths from a life and intelligence. general clapper, thanks for being here. i want to get your response to what president trump had to say about you today. >> if you look at clapper, he sort of admitted they had spies in the campaign yesterday. inadvertently. but i hope it is not true. but it looks like it is. >> did the intelligence community spy on president trump and his campaign. >> >>>, we did not. and that is -- that is a distortion of what i said. i had an av

now clapper has changed that to say there was spying in his words. but it was necessary and a good thing for donald trump because obama officials were trying to make sure there was no foreign influence on the campaign. that's led to new questions for clapper about previous questions he faced in 2013 from a democrat, ron wyden who felt he was mislead by then director of the national intelligence when he asked him under oath whether the government was collecting any type of data on millions of americans. clap per's critics say he lied about that lie when he was confronted by meghan mccain on "the view." >> in 2013 when you were asked about it, you said no. that is a lie. >> no, it isn't a lie. i'm sorry. it isn't a lie. i was thinking about something else. another program. >> that led the president to put out a tweet calling clapper a lying machine. today, he added it was a good thing for the country. he fired former fbi director james comey because of the fbi's chief's quote, unquote, tremendous lies. including the fact that comey's agency led the sur

obviously, clapper, now i see contributor, same thing. think this is very disturbing that you have all of these top officials engaging in partisan behavior and as further leaks, i mean, we keep hearing that mueller is running a straightforward, clean investigation, then how does that get into the pages of "the new york times"? i would love to know. >> sean: when you appoint andrew weissmann, who withheld exculpatory evidence twice, but four merrill executives in jail for a year, overturned by the fifth circuit, and put tens of thousands of anderson accounting workers out of work and blow everything and get appointed by mueller, eddie ought to tell you everything you need to know. ed henry, quick question on the correspondents dinner. why would president trump ever go? i think he's right. i think this whole thing is dead. goodbye. it's buried now. >> i used to think he might go next year ahead of his reelection battle, try to have an olive branch, but i think you are right, he will never go. that was destroyed on saturday night. sarah sand

clapper knew it and he lied.e was never charged like l general flynn with lying.cl this case, perjury. now clapper has been caught in yet another bold face lie. according to a report from the house intel committee, during a closed-door hearing, clapper flatly denied ever discussing that phony clinton bought and paid for steele russian dossier with a member of the media. he also repeated this claim in w march during an interview with don lemon at cnn. take a look. >> i didn't have any contact with media until after i left the government on the 20th of january. so i don't quite understand what i've read that somehow i leaked about the dossier. >> you didn't leak anything about the dossier to anybody? >> no. i mean, i talked about it after i left the government. but not during that period and certainly not between the sixthr of january and the tenth when the president-elect himself talked about it. >> sean: an incrediblean development. the intel committee's reportth found that clapper "admitted to the house permanen

here is jim clapper.cnn about whether he knew the identity of the fbi informant who was helping the united states ferret out foreign interference in an election. >> did you know about the operation or not? >> absolutely not. i did not know about it. nor would it be appropriate for any dni to know about the specifics of informants, the identities of what they're doing on the part of the fbi. there's lots of reason for that, not the least of which is the confidenty and the protection of the informants. >> do you ever feel like you're in the upside down when republicans are arguing that the fbi is bad, that the former dna is a clown, and that the names of confidential fbi informants should be exposed even though they're trying to help the united states just because trump? >> well, it does get you confused, says and certainly director clapper is -- no one really knew who he was until now in my opinion. certainly ruhle rudy giuliani has a large presence, especially in new york politics and republican politics.

clapper: yeah, absolutely. ms. wallace: what's the danger, if donald trump walks up and fires bob mueller? mr. clapper: i hope he doesn't do that. it would be a fire storm. i think there would be -- not only on the hill, but in the streets. i really think that would be a bad thing to happen. mr. brennan: i think rod rosenstein is probably more vulnerable and that's where i think devin nunes is trying to do. to find a pretext. since the department of justice rightly is refusing to provide information about sources, very, very sensitive intelligence to the oversight committees. which is something we would never do of identities. you protect them jealously and vigorously. but i think devin nunes is looking for a reason to fire rod rosenstein, which would then pave the way for having someone to constrain bob mueller. and so i really am concerned about what's going to happen in the coming weeks and months. because i do think that mr. trump and others see that, you know, the circle is tightening a bit and bob mueller's i

i see clapper saying there was a spy but he was spying on the russian end. but spying on the russian end if they thought there was collusion meant spying on the president's campaign. i would like to know who he is. >> james clapper said he didn't know anything about it but was using the word spy because it was what the president said and said he doesn't like that term. here is my big picture question. you are somebody who made your name as u.s. attorney in new york. you had a reputation for prosecuting crime as a mayor. if somebody connected to one of your investigations asked you for information about a confidential source you wouldn't stand for it. >> of course. i wouldn't give them the name. if i thought that that information would help induce a guilty plea or cooperation i would lay out for the lawyers or let them see the evidence. very often prosecutors lay out the evidence in order to end the case and say look at this and listen to the tape recording or listen to information. every once in a while will give up a confidential source. if it is true and d

we'll talk to clapper after the newsummary. secretary of state mike pompeo insisted today the trum administration will not tolerate russian interference in the 2018 elections. he told the house foreign affairs committee that there will be "appropriate counter- measures"-- but gave no details. >> we have not been able to achieve deterrence, effective deterrence, with some of these efforts with tthe russians, this administration has taken enormous efforts to push back against russia that haven't been done in an awfully long time, either here in the united states or, frankltn from our ps, who are more threatened by russia than we are in europe and elsewhere. >> woodruff: democrats voiced a doubut the trump team's efforts on election interference. new york congressman eliot engel said the administration is "ging russia a pass". a string of southern and border states held primaries on tuesday, and voters made some history. lisa desjardins as our report. >> desjardins: in georgia, an historic primary night. >> let's get done! >> desj

wyden himself called out clapper for this repeatedly. i think the most damning moment of "the view" appearance is this one. >> was the f.b.i. spying on trump's campaign? >> no, they were not. they were spying on -- a term i don't particularly like on what the russians were doing. trying to understand were the russians infiltrating trying to gain access and leverage. >> i like how he does this. spying. like he doesn't like the term. he is the man who oversaw massive surveillance and intel collected by spies. he has a problem with the term "spying"? are you kidding? the laughing making it very believable. none of this was lost on the president who today tweeted "spygate" could be one of the biggest political scandals in history. then he doubled down. >> president trump: if you look at clapper, he sort of admitted they had spies in the campaign yesterday inadvertently but i hope it's not true. but it looks like it is. we now call it "spygate." you're calling it "spygate." a lot of bad things have happened. >> laura: bad things, mr. presiden

clapper, citing a fox news. quote, @"fox & friends," new bombshell in the obama spying scandal scandal. did others spy on trump campaign. even clapper, world's dumbest former intelligence head, who

james clapper is saying that trump wouldn't have won, if not for what russia did. efforts by countries, including russia, to influence the election. has it ever been the case that the top intelligence officials in the country think that that worked? that it swung the thing? >> no, absolutely not. and i think logic tells us, rachel, that james clapper is probably right, because you got an election that was decided by those 80,000 votes in three states, and we know what the russians were doing and they were targeting voters in those three states. almost anything could have swung it, and you have to assume that if you delete the actions of the russians, donald trump may not have been elected president. >> i highlighted the experience of adlai stevenson in 1960, he says he was approached by the russians, them told him to run again, he said no, and he immediately reported it to the government. was that a scandal when it came to be known? >> it was so much later that it didn't cause the kind of furor that it might have had it been known in 1960. but we now know, this is

i'm not sure about clapper. i don't know, i haven't watched him as well.atching him, he's sure not impressive. >> mr. mayor, thank you very much for joining me this morning, appreciate your time. and you mentioned james clapper, he's actually here with us in the studio, he is going to respond to the president's lawyer, we're going to ask him how he interprets the diplomatic push back and force over north korea as well. stay with us. [stomach gurgles] ♪when you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea... girl, pepto ultra coating will treat your stomach right. nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea.♪ try new pepto with ultra coating. (barry murrey) when you have a really traumatic injury, we have a short amount of time to get our patient to the hospital with good results. we call that the golden hour. evaluating patients remotely is where i think we have a potential to make a difference. (barry murrey) we would save a lot of lives if we could bring the doctor to the patient. verizon is racing to build the first and most

that's what they do. >> clapper accusing the president of distorting his comments. t at the event last night, he told dana bash this. >> to penetrate the political campaign. not to spy on the campaign per se, but what the russians were doing to infiltrate and gain access and leverage. the institutions and values and standards i spent 50 plus years of defending are under assault. i'm so bothered by this, i felt a duty to speak up. >> the president's claims about the existence of the deep state directly contradicted by his secretary of state. here is mike pompeo testifying before the house foreign affairs committee. >> do you believe there is a criminal deep state at the state department? >> i have not seen the comments from the president. i don't believe there is a deep state at the state department. >> thank you. you formerly served as cia director. do you believe the cia is part of the deep state? >> this term deep state has been thrown around. i would say employees that worked for me at the cia nearly uniformly were aimed at achieving the president's objectives an

i think logic tells us that james clapper was right.tes in three states and we know what the russians were doing, targeting voters in those states, and you have to assume that if you delete the actions of the russians donald trump may not be elected president. >> i highlighted the events in 1960 where stevenson was approached by the russians, they told him to run, he said no, and he immediately reported it to the government. was that aed scandal? >> it was so much later that it didn't cause the kind of furor that it might have had it been known in 1960. but these are the things that you look at these events as a historian, they tried it a lot. when stevenson no. the russians went to john kennedy and said he'd like to see you elected and kennedy did the same thing, he said, thanks, but no thanks. 1964 lyndon johnson was president, fourth of september, the ambassador, we have this on tape, calls up johnson and says i saw are you of which, he likes you, how can you help? and johnson said that's not the way we do it in this country. let the

even clapper, world's dumbest former intelligence head, who has the problem of lying a lot, used the word spy when describing illegal activities. the president alleges that clapper let the truth slip out and talked about it with reporters. >> i hope it's not so, because if it is, there's never been anything like it in the history of our country. i hope -- i mean, if you look at clapper, he sort of admitted that they had spies in the campaign yesterday, inadvertently. but i hope it's not true, but it looks like it is. >> so, keeping 'em honest, here is what director clapper really said speaking on "the view". >> so, i ask you, was the fbi spying on trump's campaign? >> no, i -- no, they were not. they were spying on -- a term i don't particularly like -- but on what the russians were doing. trying to understand, were the russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage and influence, which is what they do. >> more now with james clapper, whose new book is titled "fact and fears: hard truths from a life in intelligence." you just heard what the president said about

he referenced james clapper who was on with rachel maddow last night. james clapper made this digs tin -- distinction which is the fbi investigating russian interference with the election. they had people talking with members of the trump campaign. that's a line of distinction the officials are drawing. he said we call it spy gate. that's the name the president has come up with all of this. law enforcement officials continue to draw this distinction. they has not been evidence to back up what the president is talking about. he hedged on the date when asked about that. we know there may be another planned meeting in singapore. the president is going to talk about ms-13. he clearly has russia on his mind. he's been tweeting about it all morning. he walked over to reporters. clearly wanting to get this off of his chest. >> so much going on. we understand there's work going, that diplomats are in the region working on this. as you point out, there hasn't been a whole lot of studying and they seem, especially after the secretary of state's testimony today on

joining me now, michael haden and james clapper.eneral haden has been the director of both the cia and nsa, retired four-star general, author of an important new book that we will discuss, "the assault on intelligence american national security in an age of lies." james clapper is a retired three-star general in the air force. he went on to be the director of national intelligence. i want to be clear that both these gentlemen have served with great distinction in both democratic and republican administrations. mike haden, i want to start with you and ask you, if you were a -- tasked by a foreign leader to answer the question, why did donald trump pull out of the iran deal when everybody -- and really everybody said iran was complying with the deal -- what would be your answer? >> well, fareed, you're right. when you say everybody, it's including the american intelligence community, which has said there has been no material breach by the iranians of the nuclear deal. frankly, fareed, if i was working for a foreign government and want

clapper i think is not funny.our advertisers on fox news spend billions of dollars a year to move people's opinions about things, right? if they didn't think that was effective, they wouldn't spend it.he what clapper is saying is that the russians reached through facebook 126 million people. 135 million people voted, okay? the point is, they were trying to move opinions. if you think that doesn't work, then -- >> tucker: hold on, what he actually said was i have no evidence that what i just said was true. he just said that on television. >> no, he didn't. >> tucker: actually, he did say that. >> what he said was we weren't charged with assessing what exactly happened. >> tucker: i just watched the tape, whatever. here's the point. i'm not contesting the coreat claim, though i believe it to be untrue. i'm just asking you in the most sincere way possible, if we believe that the russians are going to do this again and they really are a threat then why aren't we doing something about it? why are we allowing electronic

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known liar, john clapper. sally yates. they're all losing their minds because they're all about to be exposed. brennan saying senator mcconnell, if mr. trump continues along this disastrous path, you'll will bear major responsibility to the harm for our democracy. by the way, we're a republic. you do a disservice if you continue to enable mr. trump's self-serving actions. brennan is up to his eyeballs in all of this. i'm certain that will be exposed. as we have been saying on this program, he's been lying about his involvement with this clinton bought and paid for dossier for months and he lied in front of congress. as for james clapper, he's ensnared in the dossier scandal. and clapper, just like yates and brennan, let's go after the president and attack him. >> it's a very disturbing assault on the independence of the department of justice. when the president -- this president or any president tries to use the department of justice as a private investigatory is not good for the government. it's about what the russians we

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okay, clapper admitting there was u.s.pying on russians, so what did obama know and when did he know it? >> that's right. that's one of the many questions we need answers to. first of all, i don't know why we should believe what james clapper said on spying. he was caught lying to congress about spying on the american people. what's interesting about all of this, when you hear the way, when they come out of the shadows, people like james clapper and john brennan and james comey when they are out of the shadows and on cable tv, running around, giving people their opinions, it's quite clear they cannot stand donald trump, and therefore, there are real grounds for thinking that that attitude, that anti-trump attitude they are displaying for all the world to see was informing their decisions prior to 2016 and during the transition when the idea to them of a trump presidency was unthinkable and unacceptable. so we need to know whether they acted on that. liz: president trump tweeting this morning -- i mean that's the point, ste

clapper knows better and shouldn't of written it. >> could you think the investigation is coming closer to an end? >> i have no idea. i think it would be great to get to a conclusion and got to a conclusion sometime soon. >> let's turn to today's news about the north ore aep north k. your reaction to that? >> i think the president did the right thing. we have seen three generations of north korean leaders engage in similar ploys to get relief from sanctions. it seems that kim jong-un is a chip off the old block. i think the president didn't want to be played with. wanted to make sure the north koreans knew he was serious. provide they didn't continue to play these games they have historically done with other administrations and have gotten away with it. i think president trump did the right thing in canceling the meeting. >> as far as diplomatic moves is your sense that the white house and expectations that this will get back on track eventually. >> i think we all hope it will. there isn't anything that wouldn't be good about korean peninsula without nuclear weapons. we hope this gets b

no, james clapper, i am not happy. spying on a campaign would be illegal and a scandal to boot. but clapper was specifically asked if the fbi spied on top trump campaign. he said, it did not. as part of the investigation. they used and informant to understand what the russians were tried to do in the presidential campaign. >> i don't understand. where are the russians trying to gain influence? >> he asked the question, is mr. trump happy about that? his response is, yes, mr. trump should be happy about it. he should have been happy that the fbi was investigating the russians, not that in the fbi was investigateing the trump investigation. >> if you look at clapper, he admitted they had spies in the campaign yesterday inadvertently, but i hope it's not true, but it looks like it is. >> he needs to try to clean it up a bit when he spoke to reporters about it later, saying clapper inadvertently sort of acknowledged that the trump campaign was fired on. clapper was very clear that the fbi was using and informant to find out what the russians were doing to interfere in the campaign a

and then, too, former spy masters james comey and james clapper saying this is what we did. we, as a matter of course and procedure simply spied on political opposition. who are these people and where did they come from. >> well, we know that they came out of the obama administration and we also know they're going to get away with it if we don't have a second special counsel. when you've got rod rosenstein overseeing, for example, the mueller probe, which is reviewing obstruction of justice and rod rosenstein, you know, wrote the memo to fire james comey and they view that as the basis of their obstruction of justice claim, it shows the level of conflict of interest that these folks are willing to tolerate, whether it's the unfair persecution of president trump or the yellow brick road that was paved for hillary clinton, despite her use of bleach bit on documents that had been requested by the congress. i mean, these are outrageous biases in both directions and i think we need someone who is not from the swamp, someone not of the justice department to come in and serve as a

this is what jim clapper said today on the view about whether spying really occurred. let's watch. >> was the fbi spying on trump's campaign? >> they were not. they were spying -- a term i don't particularly like -- on what the russians were doing, trying to understand where the russians infiltrating, trying to gain access, trying to gain leverage? >> laura: if the russians are pulling the strings. >> i've known jim clapper for years. i am astounded how bad he looks now. i'm astounded how dishonest and incompetent he looks. he was a great public servant for many, many years. but when the director -- former director of intelligence tells you he doesn't like to use the word spying you have to ask yourself -- >> laura: that is funny. i didn't think of that. >> he was the director of national intelligence. what do you think he was in charge of doing? he was in charge of spying. and this whole thing is just -- people on the left, i think what happened was people like clapper and former director of the central intelligence agency, all these guys thought they could get away w

. >> the president made refrpbts to clapper on twitter. saying there was spying in the campaign and large dollars were paid to the spy, far beyond normal ... >> even though there was a effort to include democrats they suggest the meet -lgz should have been canceled. >> when one party, nunez wants to distort information for partisan purposes, asks for a solitary briefing there isn't be a briefing at all. >> it appears it's a meeting that could be sharing information. that someone's interpretation could be helpful to the president's defense. >> late today clapper responded to the president accusing him of spinning and distorting what clapper said. he says he took a version of the word spy. saying they tried to figure out if the russians were trying to infiltrate the trump campaign. wret. >> thanks, mike. let's talk about today's meeting, and more with mitch mcconnel. senator, thank you for being here. >> glad to be here, bret. >> if you can, knowing you're hampered by the situation of the meeting. can you tell us built meeting on capitol hil

james clapper. the director of the national intelligence community pretty much lies whenever he opens his mouth. like when he lied to congress with better his agency collected data on hundreds of millions of americans. he said no, not wittingly. and he lied about the trump dossier. john brennan, head of the cia lied and said the steele dossier was not part of the intelligence community evidence on interest fears in the 2016 election. again liars not able to keep their story straight, he was contradicted by clapper. you remember susan rice. her lying started long before benghazi in that despicable video. she lied and said in the final days of the obama administration she knew nothing about the surveillance of president-elect trump and people around him and she knew nothing about identities being unmasked. shortly thereafter she came clean telling house investigators she unmasked senior trump officials. the big toda -- the big kahuna e top, president obama. he allowed the information to be spread acro

i'm not sure that tweet really helps. >> bill: james clapper.ou think this helps, a sound bite from the view just yesterday. listen here. >> was the f.b.i. spying on trump's campaign? >> no, they were not. they were spying on -- a term i don't particularly like, but on what the russians were doing trying to understand were the russians trying to gain influence, which is what they do. >> why doesn't he like that? he should be happy. >> he should be. >> bill: they were spying, a term i don't particularly like to use. how did you hear that comment? >> the way i heard it is i think what clapper is trying to say is that look, this investigation or this spying had absolutely nothing to do or was coincidental it involved the trump campaign. that it was focused on russia. it is a fine line. i suspect in the coming months we'll learn as to whether this was a legitimate investigation law enforcement technique or whether it crossed the line in that it may have been produced at least in part bipartisan motives. that is clapper's perspective. we'll see. >> b

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