clarence, you're saying short-term fix. i think it will look like a short-term fix, but this feathering-in is real. and you can put all of this just like -- chris: let me ask you a question. does anybody win if we have this catastrophe we're talking about? does eric cantor or the tea party or the red hots, does anybody win if we have a real catastrophe? >> i don't think anyone wins. because i think that the catastrophe is so apocalyptic that nobody is a winner here and everyone looks as though they are failures. i do think, to bob's point, that if people perceive that things are improving, it's how they feel the trend is going -- chris: do you think obama can get re-elected even with bad numbers? clarence? >> it depends on who is running against him. the current feel, obama still has greater credibility. the election is over a year away. somebody else could also get in. chris: before we break, there's one major republican candidate who actually will cast a vote on the debt ceiling fight. u.s. congresswoman michele bachmann

such is the case with clarence butterfield.e for two years and now his trial is only two weeks away. >> it's a pretty hideous charge. i'm just being charged for, you know, killing my daughter. >> i found her dead about 11:45 on december 26th. i tried to revive her. but she was icy cold. it's like she had been dead for quite a while. all i did was look at her for two hours. >> why didn't you call the police. >> every time i call the police is i get arrested or hassled. all they would have done is i would have got arrested earlier. they weren't going to believe she was like that when i walked in. >> butterfield has pled not guilty. >> it can't get much better than that, right? you can go around the world and not find anything close to this. i don't think they're really looking really hard to find the one-armed man. you know the one-armed man, the movie "9 fugitive." i said you've been in homicide for 12 years and you've never seen "the fugitive"? i thought that was kind of lame. >> he's not only accused of murdering his 21-year-o

thank you clarence page and alex wagner. appreciate you being here. >> thank you. >>> up next, how can an al qaeda terrorist in afghanistan, a triple agent, if you will, manage to infiltrate the cia and kill seven operatives? we're going to talk to the author of a hit new book that takes us inside the 2009 attack. that's next, and this is "hardball" only on msnbc. >>> the u.s. government's remaining shares in the company meaning the government's $12.5 billion bailout ended up costing taxpayers $1.3 billion. >>> we'll be right back. 8gg@ú >>> welcome back to "hardball." it's been more than two months since u.s. special forces shot and killed osama bin laden. in the wake of that success, it's easy to forget the long, hard road to get there. back in debt of 2009, the cia thought he had the ultimate double agent who would lead them to the top echelon of al qaeda but turn out to be a triple agent, buried so deeply into the cia when he detonated the bomb he was wearing he killed seven cia agents as well as himself. "washington pos

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clarence? >> first let's distinguish between wealth and income. wealth includes income, property you own, your entire estates. the biggest fact or is real estate the last 25 years, from the mid-80s when we saw the real fruits of the 60s, with the doubling of the growth of black middle-class, we just began to acquire some wealth. how and other properties in a sense. then the 90s and the lasts decade of the housing bubble -- yeah, and also about a third of the market over the lasts decade or so really subprime loans, a lot black folks took a harder hit on that than the white folks did. so that was why you saw this widening of the gap here in recent years. what can obama do about it? i think knowing cordell west, he would like to see some direct payments. that ain't going to happen. fact of the matter is obama is on the right course, which is a color-blind approach aimed at helping people based on income and opportunity, try to help people across racial lines, knowing that the need is in the black community so the black community will be held. >> ame

clarence gets hired. did you have a similar experience getting into the business?>> not exactly but i got in on the the same energy. beginning with a 1965 riot you are talking about the time when for reasons we should not go into in depth most major metropolitan newspapers saw no need to higher anybody black some most of them didn't have anybody black on the staff. the l.a. times noticed this in 65 and they were looking around the newsroom and can you send someone out who has a sense of community and won't be in danger and the only one they could think of was a salesperson who they immediately set your journalist. go and cover it. what he wrote was representative of what you expect from someone who had no idea what journalism was. there were a lot of stories like that in the washington post, one major newspaper -- if you had one or two people but most had nobody. after that there was a sense of a huge story and huge community. our reporters don't understand it and too and comfortable out there. we need to hire some people to do it. i was hired differently. i was to

other the rory the mercedes dual michael schumacher and nicole rosberg even the top six well like clarence loose hamilton and jenson button were seventh and eleventh birthday. now formula one has never been held in russia that's about to change come the year twenty fourteen russia's olympic capital of salt she has with the race organizers staged events of the year when seats one seat in while exhibit have been held in salt and around moscow where the morning this was. just. mercedez along with star jenson button john paul the physicality and russia's first ever f one driver the challenge that all. three of their trades in russia. be amazing in itself and i think we're really looking forward to racing here. as i said this is a real taste of for the fans. for the people to really experience what we can do with the race and the sounds the smells i think so. i'm sure that if you check. the lead up to the plate. so there is a little over three years less and makes it a formula one a race track is in the works however all other parenthesis including the die hard fans are already in order now art

if you go back some time ago to the clarence thomas nomination, there was a consternation among much of the black leadership at that point when he was nominated about whether to criticize this guy or not or whether people ought to just stay quiet and in the hopes he would be something they haven't demonstrated that had any inclination to be. whherr not i asall of cornell's criticism is beside the point. he certainly has a right to criticize them and there's nothing bizarre about that and i think it is something very healthy about it. >> i did talk to a number of people in chicago, black-and-white from the left who do complain and say that barack obama can go to egypt and give a speech or he can give a speech in the u.s. on the middle east and the world talks about the middle east for the next so why hasn't barack obama come to the west side of chicago oregon to detroit and talk about urban america? has he missed an opportunity to you think to put those issues which i think it's fair to say george bush ignored that on a higher plane? >> barack obama has a set of issues the white presi

i immediately recognized it as being clarence. it turned out that he had created a number of just amazing sculptures of trial lawyers. and he went on to do one of clara fults, the first woman attorney in california and became the leader of the public defender movement. and just by happenstance, he called me and had this idea of encapsulating one of the greatest trial attorneys of our times. so, bill? is he here? this is not a magistrate. [laughing] -- not a magic trick. >> i've never met tony serra, so i have to make use of the internet to get a sense of who he was and the imagery. what clearly came over was his passion for justice. and in some cases almost a rage for justice. and initially when i started the imagery with the clay, i tried to show this passion for justice, this rage. but then i had a conversation with jeff about tony serra. and another element came out, his great heart, his deep generosity, and his respect for those he defended. so i've tried to incorporate both of these things in this piece. and i depicted him as

that's why dedicated it to my father who cut me off and clarence thomas at the same time. both of their guidance in my life coincided. postcode that's a good segue back to the hearing. >> guest: yeah, went from a week job and watched the hearings, wanted to root for the tape down for thomas clarence. the television side told me that this was the demand and newspapers told me it was a bad man. i remember eleanor chmiel, patricia schroeder walking up the steps in saying we're going to take a stand against this guy for harassment commit serial harassment. so i watch these hearings. i was a spectator who wanted to see somebody mauled, like lions mauling romans. and i watched day one, day two, the entire team. i went from wanting him to be taken down to wondering what's going on here? i don't understand what i'm watching. i understand the color commentary on the screen where they say this is outrageous. i didn't understand a bumper sticker is going by me on the streets saying i believe any data. i said i believe any to what? what is going on here? i don't understand that's goin

the other ferrari mercedes fuelled michael schumacher and nicole was worth it it looks like six by clarence lewis hamilton and jenson button were seventh and eleventh perspective. that formula one has never been held in russia about that's about to change from the year twenty fourteen russia's olympic capsule of salt she has to deal with the race organizers staged events ops of the year once it's wednesday meanwhile exhibit events have been held in sochi and around moscow where the motive is with. little fists. or satans along with star jenson button jump all the physicality and russia's first one while going to college football. for their trade in russia. one ratio be amazing in itself and i think we'll really look forward to racing here . because i said this is a real taste of. the people who really experience what we can do with a race car. in the snow. i think there. will be back here i'm sure in the future as well in. the lead up to the. so there is a little over three years left until such makes it. a race track is in the works however all i was it's including the die hard fans are al

in particular, there is no historic clarence for three of the four events of the installation of things on the roof. this is a historic building. a certificate of appropriateness is required. non-was sought. i do not want to go too deeply into that. i want to comment on two last things. one is the issue raised by the professor from berkeley. i think it is a great notion to have a code section that addresses existing buildings. i think it is worth considering. but it is worth considering from a legislative perspective. it needs to be a change that applies to all buildings that are existing in whatever capacity the policy makers choose. lastly, just to sum up the" argument, i do understand how one person could pick section 261 b 2 e out of context and read that as the ability to proceed with that high limit at all costs. the fact is the top of roof is 73 feet. it is 8 feet above the existing high limit. there are code provisions and interpretations that allow for certain the minimus -- de minimus steps to go beyond. for example, the roof deck that is flush with the room service, -- roof s

in particular, there is no historic clarence for three of the four events of the installation of things on the roof. this is a historic building. a certificate of appropriateness is required. non-was sought. i do not want to go too deeply into that. i want to comment on two last things. one is the issue raised by the professor from berkeley. i think it is a great notion to have a code section that addresses existing buildings. i think it is worth considering. but it is worth considering

to mark webber will start from pole position at sunday's german grand prix often hourly beating clarence lewis hamilton and red bull team mate sebastian vettel in a thrilling qualifying battle at the no beggaring where they claimed his third pole position of the season despite some of them from hamilton champion better qualified outside the top two for the first time in twenty eleven the german will go ahead with the ferrari in the alongside the new paymaster say these people rosberg the six. jenson button set him off in a forty third round however all this could change on some thought as the nation's weather forecast an eighty four percent chance of rain the storm. to the race. well the whole all the formal racing in germany the two local heroes from savings to michael she reckoned in the car rules but don't change much only they weren't anything like as fast as today's models but very big is these two moms who manufactured more than half a century ago nicknamed the silver our it was in the less streamlined of these two cars that one fun j o c o two this five world titles the argentinia

one mark webber will start from pole position assad is gerren grand prix after narrowly beating clarence loose hamilton and read both seem a sebastian that's all in a thrilling qualified battle at the number graeme webber claimed his a third pole position of the season despite this for a black hole thing well we're all happy that's all what a fight outside it's up to for the first time this season the german will go. the head of the ferrari do all their own and all along so and delete them lost their status as rosberg was six mclaren's jenson button seven after an aborted for whatever all this could change on sunday after the latest weather forecast predicts an eighty four percent chance afraid for the start of the race. unless they would motor sport but also bikes were jorge lorenzo claim pole position at the log and a second circuit at the us grand prix it could have ended in and sorry a different matter for the spaniard though after he suffered any crash in an earlier practice he walked away on skate however producing a great final act in qualification it's heading chad it was just a

and mark webber will start from pole position at sunday's german grand prix often hourly beating clarence lewis hamilton and red bull teammates asked invest in a thrilling qualifying battle at the no beggaring where they claimed his third pole position of the season despite some of that from how also mark world champion better qualified outside the top two for the first time in twenty eleven german will go third at the ferrari of the longs for the paymaster savings because rosberg the six instances button seven off in a bullshit run however all this could change on some talk as the nation's weather forecast looks and eighty four percent chance of rain in the sky. so the race. well the whole all the formal racing in germany the two local heroes from the savings team michael she reckoned the perils don't change much more because they weren't anything like as fast as the days models but what's really big is these two marks were manufactured more than half a century ago nicknames the silver hour it was in the last streamlined of these two cars that. feel to this five world titles the argentin

webber it will start from pole position at sunday's german grand prix after narrowly beating my clarence lose hamilton and red gold she made sebastian that's all in a thrilling qualifier gotthold and then never again webber claimed his third pole position of the season despite a superb lap from hamilton while world champion tesla qualified outside of the city for the first time this season the german will go third head of the ferrari to offer an on go along so i think he can also say this is make or roll for the six and mclaren jenson button seven three in the forty third run however all this could change the sunday as places where the forecast predicts high possibility of rain for the start of this race. say with modest ford parts on two bikes where jorge lorenzo claimed pole position at the laguna seca circuit at the united states grand prix it could have ended in an entirely different matter for the spaniard go after . he suffered a crash in an earlier practice. he walked away unscathed from that one however producing a great final lap and publication the defending champion with just

happen with clarence thomas in a certain way, right, you know? in a more evil way, many of us have gotten comfortable because rock is in the white house, but he cannot be most effective unless we are on his ass, right? we voted, so i will go home now, and see you in four years. the republicans, the tea party, all these folks, they are on his ass, so if you believe that all that there is power in that position, and there are folks that make convincing arguments about a black face on white supremacy, so there is complications, but can progress be made? can progress be made with that position? absolutely. but while we honor and acknowledge that, we have to look at the masses of folks, and i think jamal represents the conditions of the masses that we need to be focused on. >> did you want to say something? it looked as though you were starting to say something. >> i will say, he said the same thing i was thinking. people ask me how i feel about having an african-american president. i said i had ambivalent feelings. on the one hand, i know that he is

bush before the high court just like it was important to mention that clarence thomas' wife worked in the bush transition team and was busy accepting resumes from people who would serve in the bush white house as long as her husband stopped the recount in florida which he did. and more than a year after the election a consortium of newspapers including the washington post the new york times and usa today did their own recount in florida manually counting every vote in a process that took almost a year and concluded that al gore did indeed win the presidency in two thousand as the november twelfth two thousand and one article in the new york times read all the ballots have been reviewed under any of seven single standards and combined with the results of an examination of over votes mr gore would have won that little bit of info was slipped into the seventeenth paragraph of the times story on purpose so that it would attract as little attention as possible around the nation why because the nine eleven attacks it just happened and journalists a feared that the people with the plain trut

formula one mark webber will start from pole position at this german grand prix after narrowly beating clarence lewis hamilton and the rebel teammate sebastian petzl in the thrilling qualifying battle at the harbor graeme webber claimed his third pole position of the season despite a superb lap from hamilton while world champion that's all for the fight alcides up through for the first time this season the german will go third ahead of the ferrari duel fernando alonso and philippe masan are say this is make or last book were six of my clients jenson button seven three or that their run however all of us could change on sunday as the latest weather forecast predicts an eighty four percent chance of rain for the start of the race. but stay with motor sport but the bikes were jorge lorenzo claim pole position at the laguna seca circuit at the us grand prix it could have ended it in a different manner for the spaniard after he suffered that he crashed in practice. you walked away unscathed however of producing a great final amplification and spending champion was just a fraction of a second faster

mark webber will start from pole position at sunday's german grand prix after an hourly between clarence lewis hamilton and red bull teammate sebastian vettel in a thrilling qualifying battle at the no bird ring webber claimed his third pole position of the season despite a suit coat of black and also world champion vettel qualified outside the top two for the first time this season the german will go third out of the ferrari and under a long slow and fully paymaster sadie's nico rosberg the six and jenson button seven off the ball to run however all this could change on some. they have the latest weather forecast it's an eighty four percent chance of rain for the start of the race. cycling now and get out evans is set to become a stray as first tour de france winner after a stunning time trial victory in the suburbs of grenoble the thirty four year old and two time runner up overcame a fifty seven second deficit to take the yellow jersey from andy schleck with his father frank schleck in third head with a largely ceremonial final stage in paris germany's tony martin one saturday stayed

mark webber will start from pole position as sunday's german grand prix after narrowly beating my clarenceewis hamilton and red bull teammate sebastian patz all in a thrilling qualified battle at the nerva graeme webber claimed his third pole position of the season despite a super blast from hamilton while the world champion special qualified outside it's up to for the first sign of the season germany will go third ahead of the ferrari they will turn out all along so i must say this is nick of all burke was six mclaren's jenson button seven after an aborted third run however all this could change on sunday as the latest weather forecast predicts an eighty four percent chance of rain for the start of this race. to say with noticeboard to bike swear jorge lorenzo clay pole position at the law going to second circuit at the u.s. grand prix it could have ended in and then siren a different matter for the spaniard though after he suffered at the ranch in an earlier practice. he walked away unscathed however if you see a great final lap what he cation the defending champion was just a fraction o