the next the people that we see our bert acosta and clarence chamberlin.y were identified in the press as professionals. i cost is the fellow with a scarf on, the kind of pardo -- tall dark i. he was a ladies man of the air. and clarence chamberlin was his exact opposite. he was short, he was shy. he wore those pants that go -- that came above the knees. they were called plus force. he wore knickers, or these long socks. he wore a bowtie. he was as fun pilot as a pilot could be. -- i'm pilot as a pilot could be. and the fellow who owned the plane that chamberlain and acosta were flying and did not believe that chamberlain could fit the image of a pilot, a world-class pilot if he was the first to cross the atlantic. because the owner believe that the first person to cross the atlantic would be a world celebrity, big ben chaplin, bigger than douglas fairbanks, you know, the biggest person in the world, and he was right for the time. at this time there were not really any professional pilots. this is what's different about them. they were barnstormers but the