great admirer of your book on o'neal, and i can tell you from having read jack farrell's look on clarence darrow, it is another book worth reading that helps us understand part of our legacy in america in a very turbulent and special time. you know, we think of darrow often defined by the movies. there is spencer tracy and in an herat the wind and we know about the scopes trial and there is orson welles as darrow in compulsion. we all know about leopold and loeb, but would you have done is, in both the combination of journalism and the kind of current work you are doing at the center for public integrity, it helps to serve as a perceptive and artful biographer. darrow's principles and passions at times caused him to compromise and violate runcible said he believed and you captured that with some empathy and psychological understanding of human failings. when you go through the book and you read it, you run across characters we admire or find that we would like to have dinner with or be in a carpool with like justice brandeis, emma goldman who was a critic, arthur garfield hays, roger baldwin. th

similarly, clarence darrow was a great defense lawyer, a defense lawyer for labor. when he heard the william jennings bryan was going to work for the prosecution, clarence dara said he had to work for the other side. -- darrow said he had to work for the other side. many people might have seen inherit the wind, the famous movie. unlike what the movie shows you, scopes' never went to jail. scopes' agreed to be a defendant because he knew a trial was going to take place some time -- somewhere in tennessee and he wanted to bring business to tennessee. that is why the trial took place there, because scopes' agreed to be the defendant. >> technology was a factor in the trial. cameras were allowed in the courtroom and it was broadcast nationwide on the radio. >> one of the things that is so remarkable about this trial, not only that it was broadcast on the radio and tens of thousands of americans listen to it, but it was a court room. for bryan to try to defend his christianity in creationism in the courtroom -- and was the context of the courtroom in cross-examination tha

. >> clarence darrow? >> and i am almost 95 years old so i cannot remember his name. but i have this, and he is in my family. i have 6200 names that i have researched, on my computer. i researched them and make sure that they are my relatives. >> i want to let you stay on the line. we will try to get a phone number to get you connected with him directly. she brings up another part of his life, dayton, tennessee, the scopes monkey trial and clarence darrow. >> i was just going to tell nadine that we've put all of his speeches from 1896 online on our digital project. if you like to use your computer to look at the speeches, there are hundreds of them. every speech he gave in that 1896 presidential campaign is online on the "roads in the making -- modern america" website. >> all material from the series is available on-line, 14 weeks looking at presidential contenders. michael kazin. the scopes monkey trial. >> william jennings bryan is known to a lot of americans because he was the prosecutor in the trial in tennessee in 1925, which was prosecuting a teacher, john scope

i cannot know william jennings bryan, but i did made clarence darrow -- meet clarence darrow at t held for him by the women of dayton. we're glad that it happened there, and as i was told, it was kind of started for chattanooga, and chattanooga did not want, so they decided to bring it to dayton. it has brought much economy to the city of dayton. >> thank you for calling in sharing your firsthand account to that famous trial. >> talk about tourism, there is a very good museum in the basement of the court house in dayton, tennessee, about the trial and discussion of it around the world or you can also visit the courtroom itself. i sat in the judge's chair. but the famous cross examination, darrow cross- examining bryan, it was actually held on the lawn outside. 2000 people were probably in attendance listening to and watching the cross-examination. we do not have that kind of trial today. but it was, as he said, a carnival and it did help the economy of dayton a good deal because it needed it at the time. >> talking about the prohibition of the income-tax and the popular election of the

the lawyers were clarence darrow and william jennings bryan. bryan had been a democratic candidate for president in 1896, 1900 and 1908. he was the nominee three times. in fact, the first time he was only 36 years of age. he was a gifted orator and a hero of the little people. but by the middle of the 1920s he's in his 60s, and he has been sort of relegate canned to an aside role in democratic party politics, and he becomes the leader, really, of this movement called fundamentalism. and the apex of this was when the big trial took place in dayton, tennessee. and, of course, william jennings bryan goes down this to work with the prosecution. a footnote to this is that one of the preacher, in fact, the man probably most responsible for getting william jennings bryan to go to dayton, tennessee, was j. frank norris. and one of the last things that bryan did before he died just a few days after that trial while he was still in dayton, tennessee, he dropped dead, was write a handwritten note to j. frank norris in fort worth thanking him for his help,

the lawyers pitted against each other were clarence darrow and william jennings bryan. william jennings bryan had been a democratic candidate for president in 1896. he was the nominee three times. in fact, the first time is only 36 years of age. he was a gifted lawyer and a hero's people called him the great commoner. by the middle of the 19 strong he is his 60s and has been relegated to a side role in democratic party politics and he becomes the leader really of this movement called fundamentalism. and the apex of this is in the big trip to vegas in dayton, tennessee. of course william jennings bryan goes out there to work with the prosecution. a footnote this is one of the preachers, in fact the man most responsible for getting william jennings to go to dayton tennessee was frank morris. one of the last things that brain dead before he died just a few days after the trial, while he was still in tennessee was write a handwritten note to jay frank torres, thanking him for his help, encouragement and going to the trail and norris opened by a handwritten note after he'd g