i mentioned making sure that i had clarence rice. i'd like to have the presentation with a picture of and track and someone took a crew of the starship enterprise and that they are standing on the fridge and they are all with this theme powered laser all of this stuff. they couldn't find the author. silica something not as exciting. that's the kind of impoverished occurring. and now we can't use them. i want you to know we have the copyright law of right now when you are tinkering in the workshop to accomplish the very logical statue but the kinds of things we are building and making today. so how did we can't hear? this is a very interesting thing for me to do because like most people, you just use tools. you use what's to you and we don't contemplate where do those things come from, where did the concepts come from? registered in looking at the copyright to appear burgesses come from? the first thing i want you to know is they are relative ideas. the first genuine copyright act that we have the statute of anne was a british statute

if your name is clarence thomas or condoleezza rice where the faculty said she wasn't sufficiently inspirationaler a commencement address. what you see is, you get stuck in a box and get called nasty names, uncle tom and all sorts of other nastiness. the point is to shut you up. >> it's to intimidate and silence. you've been on the show and we've discussed this issue. how bad is it beyond this cont >> well, i think this is a controversy my dad would say highlighted an ongoing issue. i've had a lot of support from black liberals conservatives. guys like you, shawn. i've been emboldened because people say, raffi's out there working hard and doing the right thing. >> why do you think that it is still acceptable, like, for example, i would argue that christian conservatives can be a target with little in terms of repercussions. black conservatives can be called the worst names and there seems to be little to no repercussions? >> we're pushing back against that now. i think for so long we've been quiet because we're respectful people. now we realize enough is enough, and it's our time to speak up and