i talk aboutna that in the context of clarence thomas who did a lot of winking and nodding. >> host: putting clarence thomas -- you were saying the same thing, the same relationship with black voters and black candidates was going on. >> guest: on a case of this nominee. it's a fact -- people would like -- don't know, for instance, that miya angelou wrote a favorable op-ed piece endorsing clarence thomas on the supreme court because she thought any black person who grew up in the rural south couldn't possibly be that conservative, and it may take time for him to sort of come through. she talks about, if black people, we should rely on the ancestors wisdom on this one. right? and she should support this man and i support him. and as i say, the ancestor -- they're thought objects he got in. >> guest: he would change. people did they really know the -- the record was there but thity -- the idea that it's better to have a black conservative than a white conservative because you think a black conservative at least would be sensitive on the racial issues. the point is that policy or policy

i talk about it in the case of clarence thomas who did a lot of winking and nodding, you know. >> host: it's in the point of the book and putting clarence thomas, and you're clear it's not, but in some respect, you were saying that the same thing, the same relationship with black voters and black can dates was going on. >> guest: well, in the case of the nominee. people would, like, don't know, for instance, that my angela wrote a favorable op-ed piece endorsing clarence thomas on the supreme court because she thought that any black person growing up in the rural south couldn't possibly be that conservative. it may take time for him to sort of come through. she talked about as black people, we should rely on the ancestors' wisdom on this one; right? we should support this man, and i support him. well, as i say, you know, the an sees sores -- >> host: because they thought once he got in -- >> guest: that he was going to change. >> host: right. >> guest: well, i mean, well, people, did they know -- the record was there, but the idea that, you know, it was the idea that it's better among

i think that rationale can be detrimental and i talk about it in the case of clarence thomas who did a lot of winking and nodding. >> host: . [inaudible] in some respects you are saying that the same relationship of black voters and black candidates was going on. >> guest: in the case of the nominee. i mean people don't know for instance that maya angelou wrote a favorable op-ed speech endorsing clarence thomas on the supreme court because she thought that any black person who grew up in the rural south couldn't possibly be that conservative. it may take time for him to sort of come through and she talks about as black people, we should rely on the ancestors wisdom on this one and we should support this man and i support him. >> host: they thought once he got in that he was going to change. >> guest: well, i mean the record was there but the idea that you know, it's better among some, it's better to have a black conservative than a white conservative you would think because a black conservative in lease with the -- on these policies. policies and issues affecting black policies took

that way. >> you mentioned the name that is being floated as the potential source of the leak, clarence thomasy have quoted "new york times" article which says that thomas had a very simpatico relationship with a reporter from cbs who broke the story. suspicion is beginning to fall on him. big problem if it is located in the office of clarence thomas. his wife ran a tea party organization whose principle mission was to overturn the affordable care act. there were calls for him recuse himself. that's what got anthony weiner noticed because he was on the floor saying he should recuse himself. >> the other thing that is so funny about this ridiculous charge is if this is true, the theory behind the leak that basically there was a vote switch and we don't know, if that's true, that would be a good thing. that's how this institution is supposed to work. they trade papers. they trade arguments and at the end, they have a final vote. we all know what happened because typically it is in secret. if there was an airing of views that helped someone change their mind, that's how it is supposed to work. if

am leaving only clarence thomas to rule on obama care. he has remained silent. the united states supreme court surprised many analysts today when justice alito announced he will be stepping down from the bench to become the base player for iron maiden. >> today the long-awaited decision on obamacare came down-- excuse me, excuse me, i said nobody in the break room, okay. get out, out. >> stephen: we'll stay on top of this breaking story. fingers crossed. (cheers and applause) >> stephen: now nation-- in the past few months our economy has been a sluggish as a slug in a slug convention. it's gotten so bad i had to fire my metaphor writer. well, folks,-- (laughter) i've got some good news and some bad news. the good news is there's plenty of bad news which is great news for mitt romney. (laughter) you see the cornerstone of mift's campaign is that he can fix obama's broke own economy. so the worst things are for john q public, the better they are for willard m private. >> the federal chairman ben bernanke said today unemployment will remain above 8% through the en

he was sort of on a roll on the clarence thomas to recuse himself on health care before all of this happeneda fabulous wife. i think he should run. >> we may have found the only three people in politics who can all agree he's a shoe-in. >> people like second acts and people are often forgiving. >> new york city is a better place for him than many others. want to run and look at ron paul, his supporters came up a little short on saturday but the texas congressman has now amassed at least 158 delegates, making him third in this presidential race. jonathan, ron paul ultimately got more delegates than newt gingrich. it's a race for delegates. now that we're learning the final numbers as they add up, are we learning the media paid too much attention to the wrong candidate? >> no, i don't think they paid too little attention to ron paul. i know jon stewart thinks that. >> how did you know i think that? was it from the question? >> reading your mind. no, look, he's kind of gamed the system, right? he has a very small, extremely passionate fan base that he was able to motivate to just show up whenev

one on the nomination of clarence thomas to the supreme court.eel free to ask her any supreme court questions later tonight. the other on ronald reagan's second term. at "the new yorker" as most of you know, she is known for exposing a wide range of nefarious u.s. practices in connection with the war on terror, questions about torture, detention at guantanamo, the so-called extraordinary rendition flights, flights to countries that torture people. the search in the cia and the top level of the administration for legal justification for what president bush used to call enhanced interrogation. all of these things and more, she examined in her best selling book of 2008 entitled "the dark side. the inside story of how the war on terror turned into a war on american ideals." to jane's left is may ying welsh who is journalist and filmmaker for al-jazeera english. may has worked for the pan-arab television news agency off and on since about 2003, i think it is. she's ventured into distant and dangerous parts of the world as a sort of one-woman hit squad

but clarence thomas was taking that mh furerndas in bith giowpy icvendla. they say sandra, you're so right it made for some unlikely alances. when i interviewed justice thomas about this, w g toring ip, d i dete bht urs t isha sbo t aihaouef of that. whoa she's a tough cookie. and thene says, they had bn in td pp foeand cch t ae p h an whe kid on the block and i was brash and i took it like the rookie football player who getsloered by the libackcomeo n. h inho a o irnt. nktpeso the fact -- nothing made her pull back more than being push. she just would go toherink d baway. heot aisngk abthly t - stal ahi e yoev cnc vand to do anything. nvince sandra to do anying. when she was fac with t hast aro w - w rhetoric, she steps back and we know what happened whe the court reinforced roe v. . heylla tre c s ttire e on w akeoihaur chf her tenure, the legislative branch was polarized, the nation was polarized, and she seed to fi the mide andeveran l e dd aacat ulkes fhe stat llators. during one of the interviews that i did have with her before i wrote the book, she b

he also says clarence timons-- clarence thomas thinks like whites there is a difference between having a black skin and black thinking he is accusing cuba gooding, jr. and acting 1/8 servile way to sellout in hollywood. and spike lee has gone after clint eastwood. he said his two movies flights of our fathers and letters from the iwo jima did not have enough black people. it was racist. it turns out the movie was about the soldiers that raised the flag. none of them were black. the second movie was told from the perspective of the japanese soldiers. none of those were black. [laughter] not only is spike lee a racist but also a dumb ass. [laughter] [applause] we should be thankful his racism has matured. 20 years ago he told the london guardian newspaper after visiting south africa wanted to pick up a gun and start shooting whites. the early 90's. matt damon. his movies are awesome. major hypocrite. he says he is committed to the code of nonviolence and peace-loving progressivism. i look at the violence in the script before i accepted the deal. my do not want it to be gratuitous because

. >> bill: one more reason why clarence thomas ought to resign. the leaker in chief! oh, my god.heck it out. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." the real world and politics collide on "the gavin newsom show." this week the experts are wrong. failing is good and wall street is bad. but how does vinod khosla really feel? [ ♪ theme ♪ ] [ ♪ theme ♪ ] [ ♪ theme ♪ ] press show." [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: the president's schedule today one short line from the white house. today, the president will remain at camp david. that's it. >> busy schedule, huh? >> bill: no briefing, no press briefing, no presidential briefing. no work. no nothing. he's at camp david and you know what? good for him! mitt romney is on vacation. president obama is on vacation. the bill press team is here on the job! with the "full court press." >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." of him in fund-raising. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning everybody! what do you say? it is tuesday july 3rd. how about it. big holiday tomorrow. and we begin the birthday celebration right here. welcome to the "full court

you also clerk for justice clarence thomas for the u.s. supreme court which is amazing. not everybody gets that opportunity, and that will help us when we talk about health care. i want to talk about the tax cuts first. you decided to run for senate, and my question is why did you feel that new yorkers need an alternative? >> she seem blem mat particular of big government, big taxes, high spending, increasing the national debt and just killing the middle class and doing all of the things that are keeping our economy in a rut and preventing us from creating jobs. just completely unresponsive to what the economy needs and what we need to grow jobs. i need to replace her. this whole issue about these tax cuts is a distraction of the terrible job she has been doing the last three years in the senate. >> overall in washington these tax cuts that the president wants comes with tax increases. the one that caught my eye are the estate taxes. if you think about it, it could be as high as 45% on your earnings which you already paid taxes on when you earned it. and then you leave i

now we don't now about clarence thomas. [laughter] because as you know, he hadn't spoken much. not at all. it is possible that he is funny. always funny no matter what he says. he could be the patch adams of the supreme court. we're not sure. i have a rases right there. thank you very much. i felt it. i heard it it >> >> the book let's talk further about the book. justice go tons say the court is already rewriting the constitution. does he already render your book obsoleted. >> probably. yes, i used to think there's been a lot of rewrites to the constitution. pretty funny with there's a gentleman who has a great name they couldn't possibly make up. he's fascinating. even in some of the his decisions ski lea he has rewritten the constitution. he actually did the work of rewriting the actual amendment to say what he thought it mend using the language and flipping it around. we can get into that. he's not alone in doing that either. there have been other rewrites in the constitution. this man essentially the serious version of any book. he was another colorful character. a member

he also referred to general colin powell and clarence thomas as thinking like whites. he went on to say there is a difference between having a black skin and black thinking. he has referred to american actors like q but gutting jr. as behaving in a servile way. both those factors us selling out to the white industry in hollywood. last but certainly not least spike lee has gone after clint eastwood. he went after clint eastwood and said his two movies flags of our fathers and letters from iwo jima didn't have enough black people. was a racist. clint eastwood would not include black people in his movies and flags of our fathers and letters from iwo jima. turns out after the first movie flags of our fathers about the american soldiers who raised the american flag none of whom were black. the second movie letters from iwo jima were told from the perspective of the japanese soldiers, none of whom were black. not only is spike lee a racist but also a dumb ass. [applause] we should all be thankful that spike lee's racism has matured over the years. 20 years ago he was telling

you can be clarence thomas a and you can have a very clear frn american background going back generationsicies reso nnate with black voters. >> that's how they've been able to connect it all the way to president obama. ancestry.com is a publicly related company with ties to the church. do we know it's true for sure? no, it's like putting a puzzle together. there's enough there to get the overall picture. and the research was reviewed by a third party. he she took a look and gave stamp of approval saying the research met the highest standards. >> interesting. i love this kind of stuff. thanks very much. a good report. >>> a prominent governor's spouse is heading overseas for military duties. we'll have details in a moment. and later, a sweltering summer nigh mare, causing a blackout affecting more people than live in the united states. ♪ [music plays] ♪ [music plays] it's hard to see opportunity in today's challenging environment. unless you have the right perspective. bny mellon wealth management has the vision and experience to look beyond the obvious. we'll uncover opportunities, find h

someone had cme out and strongly predicted that clarence thomas was going vote to uphold thman date and in fact he didn vote to uphold the megaledd thitldc suset the chief justice vote was in play. in terms of the post decision leaks which have come through in january crawford and cbs news who aselile sourcewit thrtscted. ink leaks in the end reflect poorly on the people on behalf seem to have been knead. when you're on a court like this, the justice haveto make desions. whether they like eac otr or e knows about what it's like for judges not to -- southern colleagues having tried tried to --so naudle] log h other. and yet the court would come out with the decisions and this court will don't issue decisions the future as well. in terms of the trying to buy credibility for theue,th th hee i why chief justice roberts would rule this way now to immunize himself fromcriticism in the future. i don't find that to be credible at all. in terms of justice speaking to aellamote wasactll thasrm involving former justice john paul stevens on january 19, 2012 appeared on the colbert report. anybody h

. >> reporter: supreme court justice clarence thomas also attended holy cross during that time. >> it. >> reporter: during bse, they would argue passionately about everything from race to history's most brilliant black intellectuals, philosophical differences that exist today. >> the arguments we had at 18, we continue to have at 60. i see the world very differently than he sees the world. with that said, there's a bond between everybody who went to holy cross during that period and father brooks is a big part of that. >> for many of the 20 men he recruited and the greater holy cross community brooks, who was there for life's marquis moments, the vatican trained priest served as president emeritus where women are 53% of the former all male student body and minority students are a quarter of the freshman class. father brooks continued to push for change into his 80s. >> we should continually be searching for academically strong black students to come here and to engage in a strong curricul curriculum. >> like that trailblazing class of 1972. eddie jenkins went on to play for the undefe

it's blacks did not stand up, and the blacks they put on television like michael steele, clarence thomasthey do not defend black rights or interests. sonia sotomayor made a statement defending hispanic rights. what i would like for you to tell me it is this, what benefits do we blacks get out of bagging white and hispanic representatives? we are left out. we have the highest unemployment rate in the united states and nobody is looking for us. thank you. host: thank you. guest: i think he speaks to the important issue of civic participation, and that is an issue in this election season has become pretty interesting, as we have seen legislation that makes it harder to vote, and some of this legislation effects african-americans disproportionately in terms of having certain kinds of ideas, cutting early voting, or requiring birth certificates in order to register to result. i think that is an important issue on the minds of a lot of civil rights organizations in terms of not only been able to practice democracy, but being able to vote for a representative government on the count of african-

clarence thomas to the supreme feel free to ask for any supreme court questions later. the other on ronald reagan's second term. "the new yorker" -- she is known for exposing practices on the war on terror. torture, detention at guantanamo, the so-called rendition flights to countries that torture people. the detention about guantanamo. the so-called flights. the in the cia for legal justification for what president bush used to call enhanced interrogation. all these things and more she examined in her best-selling books of 2008, "the dark side." the inside story on how the war on terror turn on -- turned into a war on american ideals. to her left is may ying welsh, the staff camerawoman, journalist and filmmaker for al jazeera english. she has worked for the pan arab news agency off and on since about 2003. she has ventured into dangerous parts of the world as a one- woman reporter -- she has reported on the u.s. bombing and invasion of iraq, the rebel camps in darfur, mass killing in southern sudan and insurgency in northern yemen. she comes to the profession honestly

. >> leave clarence alone. >> justice thomas has a principled reason.e told me in his interview and this is on the record, he does not ask questions because he thinks it's too ka kofinous. he doesn't want to add to the ka kof me in. >> i want to get into you as a man. what rocks your boat. >> that's scary. >> that's what i wanted it to be. ♪ ♪ i want to go ♪ i want to win [ breathes deeply ] ♪ this is where the dream begins ♪ ♪ i want to grow ♪ i want to try ♪ i can almost touch the sky [ male announcer ] even the planet has an olympic dream. dow is proud to support that dream by helping provide greener, more sustainable solutions from the olympic village to the stadium. solutionism. the new optimism.™ ♪ this dream >>> back with justice scalia and he coauthored his book. what kind of man are you. how do you get along with the other supreme court justices. you are all highly opinionated and intelligent. that clashes. >> there are clashes on legal questions, but not personally. the press likes to paint us as nine scorpions in a bottle. that's just not the

the only justice that i thought that disclosure could be unconstitutional was clarence thomas.ut the other eight supported the whole fundamental idea of disclosure. and they urged in fact the congress to take action. i just wish our colleagues would join us in the senate as we discussed. unfortunately it was blocked by a republican procedural motion. in the house, we have not even have a hearing, a chance to have a hearing on the disclose act. i house that claims to be very open has refused to even have a hearing on a bill that would add to the openness and transparency. i filed what is called a discharge petition recently -- the bill to come out of the committee, out of the chairman is george -- chairman's drawer out to the full house to have a vote on it. if people want to vote no, do it in the light of day. so it has been very for setting that an idea that until recently had bipartisan support -- disclosure, that voters have the right to know, has not been blocked in both the house and senate. again, by congressional republicans to in this case i did not think reflecting the

. >> leave clarence alone. >> justice thomas has a principled reason. me in his interview and this is on the record, he does not ask questions because he thinks it's too ka kofinous. he doesn't want to add to the ka kof me in. >> i want to get into you as a man. what rocks your boat. >> that's scary. >> that's what i wanted it to be. so... [ gasps ] these are sandra's "homemade" yummy, scrumptious bars. hmm? i just wanted you to eat more fiber. chewy, oatie, gooeyness... and fraudulence. i'm in deep, babe. you certainly are. [ male announcer ] fiber one. >>> back with justice scalia and he coauthored his book. what kind of man are you. how do you get along with the other supreme court justices. you are all highly opinionated and intelligent. that clashes. >> there are clashes on legal questions, but not personally. the press likes to paint us as nine scorpions in a bottle. that's just not the case. >> is it you and justice roberts have had a parting of the ways gone from being best buddies to warring enemies. >> who told you that? >> credible sources. >

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like clarence thomas, we can't get rid of him for nothing. host: so when you say they're about right, elaborate on that. caller: i think they're about right. they get it right. and i think the supreme court do the right thing most of the time. i give them credit that they try to do the right thing. i think they are right. host: stevens point, wisconsin. andy, independent line. hi. caller: hello, pedro. i would like to say the supreme court is wrong on several different levels. first of all, i don't agree with a lot of decisions they've made. republicans are supposed to be really big about states rights but they turned the marijuana bill in california. since united, i can go on and -- citizens united, i can go on and on. one thing that disappoints me is the way they coerced the -- the cases are chosen that the court actually looks at. as i understand it, this is actually chosen by a first-tier lock horse -- host: i don't know for sure. but go ahead with your thought. caller: as i understand it, the cases which the supreme court actually looks

if somebody had strongly predicted that clarence thomas was going to vote to uphold the mandate and he did, then i might put some stock into the fact that something had leaked. but i do not think richard come as any surprise to the chief justice's vote would be in play. the post-decision leaks, which have come through in two reports from cbs news -- who does have a reliable sources in the courts, you cannot deny it. this leaks will reflect poorly on the people on whose behalf they seem to have been made. when you are on a course like this, it is a very collegial court. the justices have to make decisions. whether they like each other or not. i come from pennsylvania. that is a state that knows about what is like for judges not to agree with one another. at one point, a justice on the supreme court of pennsylvania accused a colleague of having tried to run him over with a car. they would sit looking away from each other or with their backs turned to one another. and yet the court would still come up with decisions. this court will continue to issue decisions in the future as well. in te

she clerked for clarence justice thomas and she knows justice scalia. for being with us this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> why is justice scalia so polarizing? >> i think he has very firm ideas. this is why he was willing to give this interview. it's really unusual to hear a justice speak for an hour on the record. but he's not afraid of his principles, and he is a very principled man. and i think that came out throughout the interview. >> justice scalia often speaks before conservative audiences. not so long ago he held a closed door meeting with the tea party caucus in congress. he counts dick cheney among his good friends. >> i like to play tennis. and in my later years since i've been the circuit justice for the fifth circuit, i have gotten into hunting. so i do a lot of hunting of various animals. >> you've been hunting with dick cheney, haven't you? >> i have indeed. >> what's that like? and you lived to tell the tale, which isn't always the case. >> dick cheney is a very good weak shot. >> humans or animals? >> ducks. [ laughter ] >> so

believable that the votes would have been in place if someone had come out and strongly predicted that clarence thomas was going to uphold the mandate and he did not. then a much but some stock in to the fact that something had leaked. i do not think it to come as any surprise. in terms of the post decision lakeeaks. there are reliable sources within the court. i think those will reflect poorly on the people on whose behalf it seemed to be made. when you are on record, it is very collegial. the justices have to make decisions, whether they like each other or not. i come from a state that knows about what it is like for judges to not agree with each other. they judged on the supreme court of pennsylvania accused one of his colleagues of having tried to run him over with a car. they would sit looking away from each other. the court would still come up with decisions. this court will continue to issue decisions. in terms of time to buy credibility, the series that have been assigned to why chief justice roberts ruled this win them to a man as himself, i did not find that to be credible there was then exc

edward churchhill, thomas cork, sr., james foreman, luther goodwin, clarence hunt, jr., and albert jonesvolunteering to defend our nation in world war ii, all men we recognize today secured a permanent place of honor in our national memory. for doing so, in the face of mistreatment and injustice, we owe them a greater measure of respect and gratitude. they are among the greatest of the greatest generation. the nearly 20,000 marines who trained at montford point, between the years of 1942 and 1949 trained in difficult conditions. instead of standard barracks like the ones their white counterparts slept in, the living quarters at montford point were more like overcrowded hats. -- huts. a single stove supplied heat for more than 40 men. most just brushed these things aside. as one of the men put it years later, we were so gung-ho and patriotic, we were not concerned at all what we would do. we wanted to get out there and fight. restricted to training for support roles, african american marines had to wait for their chance to prove themselves on the battlefield. the chance came in the pacifi

thomas earning all of this money undeclared by clarence from very, very conservative organizations t and one of the most important things when we cast a vote is understanding that the appointees -- and they are getting younger and younger, may have a 30 and 40 year reign on our courts and they are every bit as if not over the long-haul more important than the president of the united states. >> absolutely, catherine crier, i am so glad you are out there still raising hell. >> i am there. >> you are in fact. "patriot acts" is her book. or follow catherine @catherine catherine @catherinecrier. say hello to your friends and animals out there on the big ranch. what about this? this is really i think, the fact that we will talk more about it in the next hour, too, mitch mcconnell and john boehner vowing -- they don't care what the supreme court did. they are going to repeal healthcare and mr. mcconnell said we don't care about those 30 million people. 866-55-press. 30 million don't have health insurances. >> this is the full court press, the bill press show. live on your radio and on curre