. >> clarence thomas saying weighs an uncle tom, what did you mean by that? that certainly wouldn't be, you know, appropriate if it was coming from somebody who was white. >> but i'm black. >> a congressman from mississippi called supreme court justice clarence thomas an uncle tom. where is the media outrage? maybe the guy should own a basketball team. laura ingraham is on it. >> had you a guy who repeatedly raped a 14-year-old girl. and you gave him just 30 days in jail. can you explain that please? >> also ahead, the supreme court of montana overturns outrageous sentence for a child rapist embarrassing the judge who gave it we will update you on that. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >>> hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. the benghazi story keeps getting bigger. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. today, retired brigadier general robert lovell testified before the house oversight committee about why the u.s. military did not respond at all to the terror attack in bengha

this is flat out calling mcconnell racist and clarence thomas an uncle tom. 's a biggot that frankly, shouldn't be in office. >> he's a friend of mine so -- >> yeah, aren't you sick of the way this man is treated constantly -- >> clearance thomas doesn't like black people. that's pretty strange. evidence that he really doesn't have any idea what he is talking about. he doesn't like clarence thomas, conservative. he can't say that -- >> it's a slur. >> the thing here is this is not of the magnitude of what donald sterling had to say. we should not confuse it. that's not it. >> i'm not trying to do anything. i'm trying to talk about a double standard. we play al sharpton using slurs against gay people. >> homos, that was al sharpton. there is no equate -- magnitude is not the issue. the fact that america rejected this behavior, we need to reject it because the organizations like the naacp won't. they'll only reject the ones that will serve their purpose, not the people that keep their money flowing in. >> remember joe biden about obama. he's articulate, he's bri

>> uncle tomorrow clarence thomas. >> some words are weapons. said out loud, they can only be said worse with words of conversation. >>> we also have the search for flight 370. ships from bangladesh searching the bay of bengals. you've been tweeting us about the missing plane and about donald sterling and my experts are standing by to talk about experts donald sterling would make more money than he deserved, alienate himself from what he owns. >> names being tossed around include everybody from oprah to magic johnson. here's cnn ted rowlands. >> reporter: as the nba attempting to force to sell the clippers, will he fight or delay a sale? what about his wife shelly? she got permission from the clippers' coach doc rivers. >> it's a tough one for shellie, really. you know, she didn't do anything wrong either. and you've -- you have compassion for her. >> reporter: not everyone has compassion for shellie sterling. in a deposition, she was accused of calling a tenant a black mf after he asked for a reduction in rent. she unequivocally denies using th

>> uncle tom clarence thomas. >> some words are weapons. said out loud, they can only be worse. words that end the conversation. >>> we also have the search for flight 370. ships from bangladesh searching the bay of bengal. is it another false lead in a case that's been full of them? you've been tweeting us about the missing plane and about donald sterling and my experts are standing by to talk about experts donald sterling would make more money than he deserves. alienate him from his own words. >>> i want to begin with the latest on the sterling scandal. an nba meeting tomorrow could be the first step in forcing donald sterling to sell the clippers. names being tossed around include everyone from oprah to magic johnson. here's cnn ted rowlands. >> reporter: as the nba attempting to force to sell the clippers, will he fight or delay a sale? what about his wife shelly? she showed up at last night's playoff game after getting permission from the clippers' coach doc rivers. >> it's a tough one for shelly, really. you know, she didn't do anything wrong either. and you've -- you have

instead the public has lost and should lose any confidence it might have in clarence thomas., the congressman was taking issue with a lot of clarence thomas' votes on critical issues that face minorities one cannot expect thomas to vote a certain way because of the color of his skin, he has publicly said he benefitted from affirmative action programs and voted against them every time on the court. >> you can see right there why somebody in the congressman's position would be sort of upset with thomas or wish he would vote certain ways on other things. as far as thomas' jurisprudence, he never says anything on the court and if all justices followed suit, there would be no oral arguments because nobody would say anything. his opinions, as far as i've studied them, not as much as emily, he's sort of a radical conservative who is more consistent, in my view, than scalia is, the extent that congressman thompson was saying that he is, you know, sort of a sell-out for holding these yvies that's like say he doesn't want a black justice to hold radically conservative views, which i th

they speak for themselves and the way he disparaged clarence thomas.ng the ball forward for anybody there. >> gregory. >> you know what, i'm tired of this kind of race ping-pong. i'll throw you a bundy and smn somebody throws a sterling. what if your name really is uncle tom. >> i had an uncle tom. tom perino. >> i hope he didn't have any kids. >> oh. get over it. get over it. >> dana, i hate kids, perino. >> i wrote something similar to greg in terms of race ping-pong, i call it racism one upmanship. here's what i was thinking today. i think forget these older people. >> oh, my god, we're getting worse. >> and now you hate older people. >> what kind of quality -- equality are they looking for. i'm so hopeful about the youth of america because they are the most tolerant, inclusive people. we should focus more of our attention on them. they are going to be the future for us. >> krauthammer and i were having a discussion, look at the stage of -- at the age of sterling. >> you were in your 40s te ... test test flush >>> one more thing. who is first? >> it

what was the disagreement on clarence thomas? i want to know your position and her position.'m not going to let you go without explaining that one? >> she supported--like many people did, she supported his appointment on the grounds that a black man with that kind of experience would understand things eventually. and i sort of didn't think so, but that was minor. everything else from her writing to the way she lived her life to the involvements that she had, and the writing that she left for us to read. we can still read and think about maya even though she's gone. >> that's terrific. the president said today her death has dimmed one of the brightest lights of our times. take it from there. >> well, we rise, i rise today to salute her contribution, her life, and her work, her literary genius, her actual understanding of human life, and i had the great opportunity to spend three hours in her kitchen. five years ago i went calling on dr. angelou to ask her to create a work of poetry in connection with the urban league's 100th anniversary in 2010. she sat there and said, do you

every african-american i've talked to, except maybe one, is real disappointed in clarence thomas.ody that is voting to limit the right to vote, limit the opportunity to register the vote by african-americans. you have these courts, three of them in recent weeks, getting rid of some of these laws that clarence thomas seems to be enamored with. that's got me disappointed. that's got african-americans all over this country disappointed. anybody who wants to know what i think about clarence thomas, i refer them to chapters 18 and 19 in the new book that came out three days ago that i hope we're going to talk about. >> we're turning to it right now. we are turning to it right now. i want to make sure that type of rhetoric, the uncle tom, would you use those words? is that a bad choice of words is essentially what i'm asking. >> i'm not going to say -- i don't use the word. i wouldn't call members of the -- of this administration scumbags as one of my colleagues from south carolina, my senior senator, used that word in referring to the members of this administration. now, which one of t

. >> clarence thomas saying weighs an uncle tom, what did you mean by that?'t be, you know, appropriate if it was coming from somebody who was white. >> but i'm black. >> a congressman from mississippi called supreme court justice clarence thomas an uncle tom. where is the media outrage? maybe the guy should own a basketball team. laura ingraham is on it. >> had you a guy who repeatedly raped a 14-year-ol

i am very disappointed in clarence thomas. >> do you think he's an uncle tom?s an uncle tom? >> he's not the only supreme court justice there. >> but he's the only one being called an uncle tom. i think that's at extraordinary insult. >> you'll have to ask thompson. there are certain words and phrases i did not use. and i will never back away from this. i am extremely disappointed. you know, joe. we come to congress and these appointments, we are to bring tho toez bodies our experiences to broaden the application of justice in this country. >> well, clarence thomas has had an experience of being genuinely southern and being proudly black just like you and his experience led him to a different philosophy about government. and i don't know that he should be castigated because his experience as a black american is different from thompson's experiences as a black american. can't we disagree with each other without calling each other names? >> sure we can. i talked to someone yesterday who told me they were highly insulted by some of the expressions that clarence th

. >> clarence thomas saying weighs an uncle tom, what did you mean by that?y wouldn't be, you know, appropriate if it was coming from somebody who was white. >> but i'm black. >> a congressman from mississippi called supreme court justice clarence thomas an uncle tom. where is the media outrage? maybe the guy should own a basketball team. laura ingraham is on it. >> had you a guy who repeatedly raped a

it might change his view, clarence thomas did some great things.ook where he came around and look what he did. it is amazing how people can close their minds and not understand there is something they might be able to learn from an opposing point of view. talkingious caller about having students choose their person to represent them. that makes a valid point, too. openinge whole point of your mind and listening to everybody speak and you might learn something new. host: by the way, if you are interested in a myriad of voices as vince was talking about, c-span's coverage of beginsement addresses friday in primetime. a mix of lawmakers, corporate executives, and obama administration officials. patrick atl, deval the university of massachusetts, the list goes on. that is when our coverage begins -- friday, may 23 in primetime. our coverage of commencement addresses. that is our topic this morning. should speakers reflect students' values. headlines at the top. one of them is the front page of "the washington times" on the v.a. health system. it says i

want it to be, like i said, as african-american man i wouldn't want clarence thomas to speak in that graduation. that is the way that is. >> host: all right. georgia, democratic caller. thaddeus, are you with us? go ahead. >> caller: good morning. this past weekend there at moore house college school of medicine they insited the governor of georgia, natan deal. very right-wing person. and now, this is a medical school. and this man refused to take money from the government to expand the medicaid rolls. 700,000 people could have insurance if he, would expand the roll. and it's, the irony of this thing is that when he was running for office down here, he made all kind of racial comments, talking about ghetto grandmothers and ghetto grandmothers can get i.d. to go to vote like anyone else. and, this is a predominantly black college and he was asked to speak and they paid him $32,000 and he spoke in the dr. king, dr. martin luther king auditorium. and this is a person speaking at a medical school and he refused to expand medicaid so 700,000 people can, more people could have access to he

what the chief justice or justice clarence thomas, somehow she was put up. this is the same kind of language. [ indiscernible ] she is in the race not because she wants to run, barack obama and harry reid want her to be in the race. she is their pawn. he talks about, stuff, coal, he is putting her in the pawn position. then he has her talking as a child saying -- she's been practicing party politics since she learned to talk. in other word, sort of a mini-me of all the people that mitch doesn't like. that's going to hurt him? or is that just smart, old school politics, minimize the woman's independence, say she is not the right person, and that will work with men. >> if you were running against a male candidate, that were 37 years old. he would say the same thing. mitch mcconnell would be doing it. candidate x is a pawn of obama and reid. you are seeing similar message points with other democrats, incumbents or not. you bring up an important point. i do think he has got to be more careful here. she is, you saw she was, she was very feisty about this. my oppo

benny thompson who was on the new nation of islam radio show and he called supreme court justice clarence thomaswhat you have, greta, are these members of the congressional black caucus who have to create this strawman or this deception because they are really not dealing with the interests and the issues that areng their. when you think about charlie rangel, he should be speaking out about mayor bill de blasio who is trying to dismantle it the charter school program in new york city. the academy right there in harlem. not talking about the 12% unemployment rate. not talking about the g.d.p. growth which obviously means that there is definitely not economic growth within our inner city and urban environments. this is politics as usual. >> why do they do that? because everybody goes into politics whether you agree with a person. i realize some politics an awful long time and lose that thought, but, i mean, why are they doing that? >> it's it's very simple. because you have a constituency that is trapped on a liberal/progressive plantation of the 21 st century. they want to make sure that they sta

what the chief justice or justice clarence thomas, somehow she was put up. this is the same kind of language. [ indiscernible ] she is in the race not because she wants to run, barack obama and harry reid want her to be in the race. she is their pawn. he talks about, stuff , coal, h is putting her in the pawn position. then he has her talking as a child saying -- she's been practicing party politics since she learned to talk. in other word, sort of a mini-me of all the people that mitch doesn't like. that's going to hurt him? or is that just smart, old school politics, min miimize th woman's independence, say she is not the right person, and that will work with men. >> if you were running against a male candidate, that were 37 years old. he would say the same thing. mitch mcconnell would be doing it. candidate x is a pawn of obama and reid. you are seeing similar message points with other democrats, incumbents or not. you bring up an important point. i do think he has got to be more careful here. she is, you saw she was, she was very feisty about this. my op

. >> make fun of clarence thomas call it out. deneen is making it about organizations.titutions, and people. and it's broader than that just a couple hours ago i visited my high school that i went, to i saw systemic racism happening there not enough funding to go to help programs like debate and inner city schools. we have a serious problem. we could all work to address that that is how we fundamentally change this country and hatred and racism by finding ways to systematically. >> i will help your school if you tell me what school it is. if they are denied funding for extracurriculars, i will make sure they get the funding. because, wait, wait, wait. if there is a school, a public school, in america, that's being deprived of money, because it's mostly minority students, we will correct that wrong. that's not the norm, mr. fowler, you know it's not the norm. >> it is the norm. it's happening in every major city across the country. >> it's distribution, all right, on the federal and state level equally among the schools because the per capita spending is usually higher i

justice clarence thomas went even further than the decision.urring opinion he said that only actual legal coercion counts. not the subtle coercive pressures allegedly felt by respondents in this case, and essentially, thomas, implied that states should be able to establish official religions even if the federal government cannot do so. >> eight other judges didn't agree with that, and there's no way a majority of the court would hold to that pretty radical view. if i may, if we could take the constitutional law out of this question for a minute and just ask what is the right thing for the people and the town council at greece, new york, to do, and i think that answer is pretty obvious. a moment of silence. i'm not talking about constitutional law. i am talking about what is the right and christian thing to do. have a moment of silence, make it inclusive. jews, christians, catholics, muslims can pray or not pray. atheists and aing nostices can have a moment of silent reflection, and that would send a message that in america before the government

i have no problem with clarence thomas having his own views or tim scott having their own views.movement are trying to make, within you have a member of congress that votes against protecting people's voting rights or a member of congress that will cut wick programs, cut programs that benefit the african-american, latino, lgtbq community, you have a serious problem on your hands. that's the argument representatives are trying to make when they call them out for horrible decisions they've made or the horrible voting record they have in the united states senate when it comes to the issues affecting the inner cities. >> this is all subjective, isn't it raffi? the programs might be a disaster. can't we debate this stuff or no? >> we should be able to have a debate. these are two people, both supreme court justice thomas and senator scott who came up from nothing. they've achieved the american dream and they've seen how they've done it and understand how they best can expand access to the american dream for all americans. doesn't matter what color or race you are. that's what they're

and their incompetence clarence thomas just voted against affirmative action and he just years ago he not that long we get minute that he benefited from affirmative action and then you have alito that contradicted his own decision on the e.p.a.'s tower over the air pollution i mean what when does this incompetence stop and. anyway just like you're richard here here's the problem it's not just incompetence when you have when you have a wing of the government that is supposed to be they're supposed to be the people who decide important issues with a rational basis they're supposed to be unbiased they're supposed to be middle road the way they do that that no longer is the case alito in school and clarence thomas and even kennedy there there are politicians that have judges robes on and if you can get that in your head there's nothing mystical about them anymore there's nothing special about them anymore they're simply politicians who work themselves up the political chain and all of a sudden roberts who is a absolute political animal is the chief judge well he's nothing is no more than

she wrote a book that attacked clarence thomas. right person to run a paper that tends to be nonpartisan and nonaligned. the really interesting fact here is this is sort of where you end up with identity politics. the idea was being mistreated with all women is a ludicrous way to go through life. i am a white protestant man, i'm not responsible for al gore. ericmartha: i should point out e pushy term is a strange when to use the somebody in that position because he would expect them to be aggressive, to be hard driving. in terms of a politics thing. i about that because this is a quote of hers from interview she did on january 21 talking about how martha: this whiteout is. the most secretive white house she has ever covered. i covered presidents from president reagan up through now, the washington bureau chief of "the times." causing many people to say the reverse perhaps it's true. it might have been because she was saying unkind things about the white house. >> if that's true, there is a story and i hope she will write that. anyb

jill and jane mayer wrote a book about the clarence thomas controversy. "60 minutes" scheduled an interview with them. only when cbs showed up did the authors realize it was to be a piece critical of the book. this sends shivers down the spines of mere mortals. a "60 minutes" inquestion -- inquisition. just acknowledge. not jill abrahamson, the iron lady. she got her notebook, pulled out the facts, rebutted every charge and killed the theme. she went eye-to-eye with "60 minutes." they blanked. it was on this campus, a half century ago, i decided to become a journalist, ons blind by spending several days with a visiting "new york times" legend, scotty ruston. little did i realize that decades later i would be close friends with another "new york times" legend. she isn't a pipe-smoking contemplative columnist. she is a thoughtful, courageous editor, with a new york accent so thick we may need a translator this morning. she is one of the most powerful women in the world who always has time for her many friends. it's one of the pleasures of my life to be her colleague. and today, it is with suc

. >>> also congressman james clyburn will join me and discuss the dust-up over clarence thomas, alsoional black caucus and a bizarre t2:00 a.m. phone call mr. clyburn once got from a u.s. president. >>> and the woman at the center of the donald sterling/l.a. clippers controversy. she made a fashion statement but also made a statement, telling her side of the story. don't go anywhere, we'll explain that visor and a lot more. [ amy ] when you're tossing and turning and can't sleep an ounce, wash in sweet dreams with tide, downy, and bounce. the sweet dreams collection has scents so relaxing so you can tuck in and turn off after a day oh so taxing. ♪ [ click ] >>> well, look who's talking. the woman at the center of the donald sterling controversy says he's not what he appears to be. new reaction to her new interview. >>> also the politics of poverty. what happened between that meeting between paul ryan and the

clarence thomas, this man doesn't even like black people. >> i have never seen so many confederate flags the fact that they call themselves the tea party. >> so some outrageous statements. first, do you think these are big deals? >> they are big deals. the media should have covered it. it's just so wrong for these men to make these inflammatory racial statements. we can't have two sets of rulings here where if you're in the private sector and you're the owner of the clippers and you make inflammatory, hurtful statements you get persecuted and crucified. you get fined millions of dollars, get your team taken away, but yet you're an elected member of congress, you get away with it. that's not right. >> you got no coverage on rangel, zero. zero coverage on benny thompson. by the way, he doubled down with cnn yesterday and said he is an uncle tom, what do you want me to say? 165 minutes and 22 seconds on the owner of the clippers. now, on the benghazi e-mails, by any standard, this is huge news. a court case reveals memos when we were told everything has been exposed. the benghazi coverage.

know if that doesn't work it still all good because the cokes don't have supreme court justices clarence thomas and antonin scalia that's handing their secret right wing fund raising campaigns which is a wooden royal of the code of conduct where you know if they judges as she was and this gives me a total rags then because if that doesn't make the koch brothers the mama gandhi of hijacking democracy i do not know for the life of me was. to you this is a reaction gone be in the same time i certainly did in f.l. very right why do some thrown about the destruction of our country by these ass hats because i was smart enough to lead a put them on my fantasy plutocracy. that doesn't exist plutocracy of course it does rule by the wealthy look at a return are you kidding me i'm not in fantasy plutocracy it is real i was losing to a guy who had both rupert murdoch and the dude who invented the slab shop i know why now i'm crushing ed thanks these two ponk should gandhi's last call cattle monologue they're not here out of the park like michael phelps. and on you crazy diamond. john we're going to talk ab

comfortable being a cartoon character because he knows nobody's going to be able to get rid of him clarence thomas the same thing here's a guy who's never asked a question ever asked a question is he listen to argument has never asked a question. he doesn't care because he's not at risk in any can way but when the american public gets to the point where they say the highest court in the land that court is supposed to balance justice in this country and make sure everything runs right when that highest court has a disapproval rate that looks something like dick cheney's you know the court is in trouble and it happens because you have judges like roberts for example robertson is hearings you might recall was saying oh i don't believe in conservative you to show activism i'm just going to all i do is just call it is it strike is it a ball that's my job first thing he does is comes in with six major activists cage cases one right after another where he makes it very clear that he's not really there is a judge he's there is a politician dressed up like a judge so what's happening look you know citizens