clarence thomas, i was very aware of. post office and silver service, ferraroe, myself, gerry , we each had subcommittees and as the three subcommittee chairs we put hours together to talk about the quality, what was going on, all these kinds of things. we had clarence thomas come to testify and he always left at us and told us it was us stupid law . it was so frustrating to think int this guy didn't believe what he was supposed to be doing, so no wonder he wasn't doing it. meanwhile, there he sat. to begin with, we weren't fans, shall we say. so suddenly he's up. and we haven't heard much about what was going on and suddenly this wonderful woman says -- i would like to testify. we looked into her background and she was amazing. i mean, she was a southern baptist all the way through. she had gone -- very straight arrow. straighter than straight. had some interesting stories to tell about the chairman. she had volunteered to testify and went over and asked to testify. that's how passionate she felt about it and they said n

first of all, clarence thomas, i was very aware of. mary rose own car, myself, and jerry ferraro each had subcommittees. we had as a three subcommittee chairs to put hours together to talk about equality, what was going on, all of these things. and we had clarence thomas come and he always laughed at us and told us it was stupid. so it was so frustrated to think that this guy did not believe in what he was supposed to be doing. no wonder he was not doing it. suddenly he is up and we had not heard much about what was going on. suddenly this wonderful woman says i would like to testify. we looked into her background and she was amazing. she was a southern baptist all the way through. she had some interesting stories to tell about the chairman. she had volunteered to testify and went over and asked to testify, that is how passionate she felt about it, and they said no thank you. so we got rob a lot about that. one morning, we went in and did 1 minute speeches. a wonderful young woman entered a camp, i said was going on. she said go outsid

i think the clarence thomas hearings were a disaster for the senate so there were a series of things that went on. but what we were seeing, and i felt like your views on this for the risderisory hard-edged partn politics what i would call a combination of the politics of personal destruction and the permanent campaign organized politics an as let's say newt gingrich is generally regarded as a formidable advocate of these things. politics changed at that time and it became difficult for the moderate republicans. so, you solve a senators start moving out and said we are not sure that we want to be here anymore. a whole number of them, 92, 94 or 96. so the politics change right around the '90s. george mitchell got out at the right time and left it for you to deal with. >> host: you use the term political as a campaign and i think that is in accurate description of what has happened. each of these triggered a devolution away from the experience to the political one where the consequences into the strategy became preeminent, was legislative and more political to the point that we have evo

when anita was testifying, when she testified at the clarence thomas hearing, she came to rely on ada, and i just want to read quickly what it is she had to say about ada. >> this is anita hill talking. as i settled into my role there, i drew on her enthusiasm. at every step she supported me, from the day i got there, through tenure and finally when i needed it most when my job was threatened after i testified in 1991 after senate confirmation hearing for judge clarence thomas. her support was vocal in public and private settings. at a university function in norman, days after my testimony she greeted me in her enthusiastic manner. she said, anita, you are my kind of woman. i knew that that i could weather the trials that lay ahead, because she told me i could. ada, was my role model for strength and leadership in my inspiration to remain hopeful. she still is. any questions? [inaudible question] >> let me answer the first half. i was looking at the girls in the 50s and i wanted to find out about black girlhood during those years. i just went to the library and pull down copies of ebo

when justiceforget clarence thomas who rarely spoke.from the bench it was the first time he had said anything in seven years on the supreme court. powerful baritone voice in which he was shaking as he delivered this shakespearean soliloquy he said, i think the burning cross is like no other symbol in america. i think it is always used to instill fear and to terrorize the population. the powerful moment that i came to think about again 15 years later when i watched the event of an charlottesville. -- unfolds in charlottesville. i'm sure we will be talking about the very kinds of things i have found myself re-examining. them is the very core question of what we really should mean by freedom of speech in america. mean that hate speech is not protected? has notheory that it credible claim. no plausible claim. to the exposition of ideas on the discovery of truth and that whatever scintilla of intellectual content or progress on the road to truth it might claim is clearly outweighed by society's interests in order and morality. you may recognize the words i just spoke. they are lifted from

hearing, clarence thomas had harassed her while secretary at the department of education, she said that thomas had asked her out repeatedly and when she said no, continued discuss sexual topics in the workplace, watching the televised hearings gave her strength of vertigo, so much of the behavior is what she had experienced years back when she was working for men served as mentor and made overtures that made her uncomfortable, glancing body but valued her experience and guidance but found ways to live wit, minimize it, never went too far she said, but still she was seeing behavior differently in retrospect while watching hearings she got call from same mentor, she hadn't heard from them in years, he was watching the hearings too he said, he we wanted to know whether what thomas did to hill what he had done to her. this was a point at which she paused story, looked at me and shook her head in disbelief, you know what i did, she asked, i told him no, i told him it was fine, i reassured him. i marched in number of protests, defend rights of times if foster care and juvenile syste

had supreme court justice clarence thomas said anything this year? it is time to pay for trump's friend gender. trump'sne -- for agenda. we should point out that congress could still weigh in and overturned the executive order by the president. the reaction in northern virginia, one of the most closely watched house races in the country, republican congresswoman barbara comstock who has a lot of federal employees in her district issuing a statement, i strongly oppose eliminating the pay raise for civilian federal employees and will work with my colleague to have the fairies included in the spending bill. our public servants have been getting shortchanged for years. congresswomanican barbara comstock who is running for reelection. her challenger is a democratic senator and she writes, barber, stack and donald trump blew -- barbara comstock and donald a eight $2 trillion hole in the federal deficit by giving a tax handout to the wealthiest and now they are going to pay for on the backs of federal workers by denying them scheduled pay raises. the suburb

my job was threatened after i testified in 1991 at the senate confirmation hearings for judge clarence thomas. her support was vocal in both private and in public settings. at the university -- at a university function in norman, days after my testimony, she greeted me in her familiar, enthusiastic manner, and she said, anita, you're my kind of woman. i knew then that i could weather the trials that lay ahead, because ada told me i could. ada -- fisher was her last name -- was my role model for strength and committed leadership and my inspiration to remain hopeful. and she still is. so any questions? >> [inaudible] how did you come to this book, and was everybody receptive to being contacted for interviews? >> so let me answer the first half of your question. so i was doing research on girls in the 1950s, and i wanted to find out about black girlhood during those years. so i just went to the library and pulled down bound copies of ebony, and i just paged through them page by page from '45-'65. and i found whenever there was an article about school desegregation, it was about a girl. and i tho

that grew out of women for judge thomas which formed during and needed pills testimony about clarence thomas and his nine hundred ninety one supreme court confirmation hearing wow what a fine origin story. what you want to let everyone know you got your start by claiming a woman whining about being stopped when harassed by a man a man who has the real judicial power to grow women's rights so for the we'll see amazon ads for menstrual hurt before we see paid leave in this country. and if you think that's hyperbolic consider that out of one hundred ninety three countries in the united nations the united states is one of eight countries and the only high income country. without paid maternity leave the country that offers the most is a stone in a year or help a paid leave to new parents. divorce you need something that progressive to balance the fact that a stone dia has won the white carrying world championships for eleven years in a row in which the grand prize is the wife's weight in beer the only thing that would make that more aggressive is if the beer they won was also cold raging. but ma

clarence thomas had sexually harassed anita hill. forward now to 2018, one of the largest issues we are seeing is sexual harassment and misconduct. me too movement has the same type of -- the same lineage of 1992. it cannot lost on us that it was a black woman who started the movement and the phrase me too to call attention to the sexual harassment. what we see is not only this lineage or legacy of women being mobilized by sexual harassment but it is playing out today. i'm given hope and optimism because i think we are seeing a change in culture. in 1992, sexual harassment and misconduct was not talked about. there were federal laws and policies not in place. now we have some. they're not great, but we are moving into a direction. i am optimistic and hopeful that this is not a flash in the pan, that this is sustained movement. women are showing up to marches and rallies around the world. they are taking our lead and saint this is an issue that unites us. we want a safer world for our daughters, our mothers, our sisters, our wives. to

that grew out of women for judge thomas which formed during and needed pills testimony about clarence thomas and his nine hundred ninety one supreme court confirmation hearing wow what a fine origin story. what you want to let everyone know you got your start by claiming a woman lying about being sexually harassed by a man a man who was the real judicial power to grow women's rights so for the we'll see amazon ads for menstrual hurt before we see paid leave in this country. and if you think that is. consider that out of one hundred ninety three countries in the united nations the united states is one of eight countries and the only high income country without paid maternity leave the country that offers the most is a stone and a year and a half of paid leave to new parents. in the course you need something that progressive to balance the fact that a stone dia has won the wife carrying world championships for eleven years in a row in which the grand prize is the wife's weight in beer the only thing that would make that more aggressive is if the beer they won was also cold raging. but marco ru

also for justice clarence thomas on the supreme court. last but not least, we will hear where he runsffer the national security lock program. he served as the chief counsel counsel to the house intelligence community. he is a graduate of the ucla chicago law school and the naval war college at with that i will turn it over to justin. justin: thank you very much. --see all of you. i will talk about judge kavanaugh's opinions about individual rights. there is not enough time to go through all of them. he has been on the bench for 12 years, written 300 different opinions. hopefully you have watched enough cable news or read enough coverage to know that 13 of his opinions have been endorsed by the united states supreme court which i think suggests all the opinions are within the mainstream. -- all ofse opinions those 13 were endorsed not just by the most conservative members 's the court but by the court less conservative members. since there is not time to cover liberties, i will start with the first amendment theget all the way to second. [

week conservatives have watched as the press have destroyed, palin, clarence thomas, ronald reagan, the.c. press corps today is the least professional press corps in my lifetime. they think that their job is to make an impossible for the president of function. to sabotage him, and to advance the cause of the ideologues, to advance the cause of a rogue prosecutor by the name of mueller. so the press reallyos needs to e circumspect, take a look at itself.ok it won't. as long as they keep putting clowns like jim acosta out there, who is a drama queen of sorts, and who like to report on themselves and talk about themselves, as long as it's impossible to tell a late night comedian from jake tapper and jake tapper fromom the porn star and all the rest of it, this is the reaction of the american people. >> sean: [laughs] if it wasn't so important -- this is where thank god the american people have choices. we are a part of it. it's an honor. i feel blessed to do this, as i know you do. let me ask you this. i'll let you put on your attorney sat for a minute. for those that don't know, you were

chief counsel as well as policy director for judicial crisis network and former clerk to justice clarence thomas. let's start with i guess this proclamation from chuck schumer that they are prepared to sue. your response to that? >> his numbers are so artificially inflated. he said literally millions more pages of documents were requested from judge kavanaugh then judge kagan. we have seen it from all of them, all of the white house documents they had were released. for kagan they did not ask for the general time even though they were very relevant to her time as a judge. eboni: why were those not requested? >> because it is very sensitive, a lot of it has to do with the demonstration. and they're asking for -- they're not just asking, give me your email, give us every email he was even mentioned in. even if he never saw it. they're trying to make the numbers look big by artificially inflating them. it is absurd, it is apples and oranges. sure, go ahead and try to sue if they are not complying with their request. they are trying to distract from the record which is outstanding. he served for a d

it happens all across the stratosphere with clarence thomas, kanye west, ben carson.you push an opinion aside from what the liberals want you to say, you are tagged as a race traitor and i don't appreciate it. >> dana: it is similar to what we said in the last block, hillary clinton sang white women only voted for trump because their husbands told them too. actually, guess what. news flash. it's 2018 and everybody can think for themselves. i think what jack prescott did show real leadership, and that's what quarterbacks do, right? they lead. >> juan: what do you think, jedediah? it's also the case that there is tremendous momentum among the nfl players to say this is our moment to take a stand, stand together and call attention. our platform for calling attention to social justice and police brutality. >> jedidiah: that may be true but his statement was so noncontroversial. that was why i was surprised. i am used to the mob going after people when they come out and say something that really goes against the grain. this guy was saying, even part of his quote was i resp

background or certain ethnicity, certain race there is only one direction you can go in, whether it's clarence thomaslter williams or tom sole or any given number of free thinkers out there. they're vilified in some ways. >> yep. >> laura: kevin i find it to be a fascinating conversation. >> it is. it is not just entertainment laura the way you set it up. it's the black community that will ostracize you. and kanye got it right. he will be bullied. he named everybody in the mix. the liberals will bully you, the media will bully you, guys like this guy will bully you. kanye said what he said. there was no upside for him in this. he wasn't catering to any particular side. he said i'm a human being, i'm going to think for myself, i'm not going to let anybody determine what i say as a man. good for him. >> he does talk for himself. >> i let you talk. he only impacted himself. not only has donald trump raise the the level of black support. he doubled to 29% now because people are finally starting to wake up. kanye brought a level of consciousness to many blacks in america who feel identically the same. i h

and for justice clarence thomas. she is a graduate of the university of maryland and george washington university law school. jameel jaffer,om who is an adjunct professor of law at george mason. he worked in the justice department's legal policy. he served as the chief counsel and senior advisor for the senate foreign relations committee and senior counsel the house intelligence committee. he was one of neil gorsuch's -- on the 10th circuit. he is a graduate of ucla and the united states never war college. i am going to turn it over to justin. >> great to see all of you. i am going to talk about judge kavanaugh's opinions about individual rights. there is not enough time to go through all of them. he has been on the bench for 12 years. he has 3 -- written opinions. hopefully you have watched enough kavanaugh coverage to know 13 of his opinions have been endorsed by the supreme court, which suggests the opinions we are going to talk about our within the mainstream. 13 were endorsed not just by conservative members of

she also clerked for justice clarence thomas on the supreme court. she is a graduate of the university of maryland and the george washington university law school. last but not least, we will hear from jameel jaffer, who is an adjunt professor of law at george mason, where he runs the national security law program. he worked in the justice department's office of legal policy, the white house counsel's office during the bush administration, and served as the chief counsel and senior advisor to the senate foreign relations committee, and senior counsel to the house intelligence committee. he was one of neil gorsuch's first law clerks to justice in the 10th circuit and, at the supreme court. he is a graduate of the ucla, university of chicago law school and the naval war college. for now, i will turn it over to justin. justin: thank you very much. i am happy to see all of you. i will talk about a few of judge kavanaugh's opinions about individual rights. there is not enough time to go through all of them, he has been on the bench for 12 years, written 3

apprenticeship for teenagers who are in a crazy hectic moment in their lives to >> reporter: clarence thomas rkaduated from wooden boat factory and now as an engineering aide for the city of philadelphia. the program helped him overcome ine disappointment of not able to play professional football. >> i literally had all my goals set on footbaln' you know i dcare about anything else. when i came here it was like, hey, you know there's just there's something else out there that you can also be interested in. >> reporter: perhaps the most visible impact can be seen in the feeling students have when they finally get to put their boats in the water. >> it was amazing. i can't explain it because it was an accomplishment that i don't know a lot of people that have built a boat befo and to put on the water. but sailing on the wxper. it was uinable. this program impacted my le by me physically and mentbely use i would break down and go "i can't do this." and you know you have to figure it out because that's the way you going to build the boat gthat's the only way you'ng to progress. >> reporter: for

in 1991, anita hill testified that clarence thomas had sexually harassed her. she said he had asked her out repeatedly and once she said no, he continually discussed sexual topics with her in the workplace. watching the televised hearings gave her a strange sense of vertigo. so much of what she described is what had been experienced years back while a man who was her mentor often turned the conversation to sexual topics, glancing at her body but she still valued his experience and guidance so found a way to live with it, minimize it. it never went too far, she said, but still she saw it differently in retrospect. while watching the hearings, she got a call from that same mentor. she hadn't heard from him in years. he was watching the hearings, too. he wanted to know whether what thomas did to hill is what he had done to her. this is the point at which she paused the story, look at me, and shook her head in disbelief. know what i did, she asked, i told him no. i told him it was fine. i reassured him. i marched alongside her at a number of protests. i have seen h

also for justice clarence thomas on the supreme court. she is a graduate of the university of maryland and george washington university law school. last but not least, we will hear , he runs a jaffer national security program. he served as the chief counsel and counsel to the house intelligence community. he was one of neil gorsuch's clerks. -- ofa graduate of the ucla, the chicago law school and the naval war college. with that, i will turn it over to justin. about agoing to talk few of judge kavanaugh's opinions about individual rights. there's not enough time to go through all of them, he has been on the bench 12 years, written over 300 opinions. hopefully you have watched enough cable news or read enough coverage to know that 13 of his opinions have been endorsed by the supreme court. that thehink suggests opinions we will talk about today are in the mainstream. endorsed not just by the most conservative members of the court, but by less conservative members, and sometimes unanimously. since there is not time to cover all individual l

is where i started, you take the case and there are 60 of them or 70 and the vast majority -- clarence thomas, we sat next to each other for year and it was so complicated. he said in the -- as we were going in, this is really a question of what you should do if arissa were interpreted of iara, these are three things nobody knows what they are. i shouldn't have. nonetheless, a lot of them are these words in a statute and the reason we have them is because lowered-court judges have come to different conclusions about the same question of federal law andd every since taft was chief justice, he said that's the primary job of the supreme court, iron out the law where the lower court judges have come to different conclusions so we can have a case, once we did have once, does this comma means the next word should be read with which or that, i liked the case and no one else did, okay. [laughter] >> there are a few with high visibility or that's what will be writtenbe about and so you wl miss the cases, i'm not saying you're wrong to miss them but you will miss the cases that were likely unanimous an

kind of confusing poupurri, i would never forget a moment where just a few feet from me justice clarence thomas rarely speaks from the bench, shaking as he delivered, he said i think the burning cross is like no other and still feared an an terrorize and think about again 15 years later when i watched the events unfold in charlottesville. i will end by saying this, i'm sure we will all be talking about the very kinds of things that i have found myself re-examining. and among them is as we have already heard suggested the very e core question of what we realy should mean by freedom of speech in america, shouldn't we mean that hate speech is not protected on the theory that it has no credible claim no plausible claim to the exposition of ideas and discovery of truth and that whatever intellectual content or progress on the road to truth it might claim is clearly outweigh ed by society's interest and morality. you may recognize the words i just spoke, they're lifted from pofamous 1942 decision, it's the most beautiful exposition of morality of freedom of speech and for the last 100 years, the or a

access carry from the judicial crisis network, a former clerk for justice clarence thomas.that happen. isn't there more information about brett kavanaugh available then there has been for previous judicial nominations? >> by orders of magnitude. we will have more document on him nonetheless five nominees combined. it is insane the amount of information they have, documents from his white house counsel, the star investigation, we also have judicial records, 300 opinions 12 years on the bench, way more than we had on any nominee in history. it is shocking the democrats are asking for more but it is very clear when you look at people -- all the people who already announced i'm voting against him from day one. >> they would never have enough. all of this element tree school grade books they wouldn't have enough information. this is not qualifications but ideology. anyone who is not a big glib would not be approved by the democrats. >> it is a hail mary pass, they are trying to delay it past the election and hope they when the senate and block all nominees, maybe they hope to fi

it is hard to find another clarence thomas.k you say forget the robes. maybe the job should come with tights and a cape. doesn't sound like a compliment, though. >> i think it is a great gig. justice kennedy being the deciding vote in so many areas, gay rights, some of the voting rights cases, gun control, he ran the country. and if you are running the country, if you are asked to decide these key social and political areas, it is very hard to say no. but justice brando said a century ago, the hardest thing we do is not doing. the court very infrequently choosed to stay out and when it does like on gerrymandering this past spring, those are the areas to get involved. >> i totally agree with you. what are the next big issues this court will decide? >> they will continue -- there will be abortion cases and same-sex marriage cases but the key area is going to be deregulate what they call the federal administrative state. the agencies the federal government operating under very broad statutes passed by congress have vast discretion

back to very important event that took place for women members and women across the country, the clarence thomas and anita hill hearings. what effect do you think that had on the women who are serving in the house at the time? >> it had a lot -- because this is where we came together, so completely. i mean, some of us on the floor speaking, going over to the -- to the senate. it was a big moment. it was a very important moment. and i talk about having admiration for women. anita hill, i mean, she was not the kind of woman that wanted to bring that attention on herself at all. but she was convinced that she ehad to say what she was going to say. and it showed. it really showed that there was still so far to go. that's what -- that's what i constantly tell my students, that yes, women have come a great forward in jobs and getting in leadership, but we've got so much further to go, so much further to go, and i worry terribly because the millennials don't feel that they want to go into politics, and of course part of that is that they don't teach civics in high schools like they used to. so, they do

her parents, clarence and barbara, her sisters carolyn franklin and irma franklin, her brothers cecil franklin and vaughn franklin, and her nephew thomasren, clarence and edward franklin, theodore r. white iii, grandchildren stephon fred, jordan franklin, victory franklin, grace franklin, great-grandchildren, one sister, two sisters-in-law, arlene franklin and cindy franklin. a first cousin reared as a sister, brenda corbett, james corbett. four nieces, sabrina owens, oliver owens, crystal franklin, bridget franklin, and marlene brown. five nephews, vaughn c. franklin jr., christine franklin, timothy franklin, carolyn franklin, anthony franklin, pamela franklin, terrell franklin, and charles smith, tina smith. one uncle, and a host of great nieces, great nephews, and cousins, including larone garrett, asia garrett, brooklyn hardeman, vaughn franklin iii, dominique hardy, joshua franklin, anthony gates, andrea gates, amber hal monday franklin, anthony franklin, cameron green, chris ttina davi jeff low, romney darrell, doris lowe, billy wilson, deon. thank you. [ applause ] >> amazing family, indeed. an amazing woman. sabrina owens, the