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well, that was the trailer to our film called created equal clarence thomas and his own words. the same title is the book. it's a two-hour film. it was released in january of 2020 was in a bunch of theaters 110 theaters and then covid cut. it's the actual release short. it was then broadcast nationally on pbs in may did very well on pbs and then it was released digitally and it's still available digitally. it's on amazon and viewers can go to our website manifold productions.com with a full list of how to watch it. and that film was based on a very long interview with clarence thomas. i think you could see that. he looked right at the camera and tells his story in his own words from his beginnings to today. so i interviewed him for over 24 hours over four month period and jenny for five or six hours and they're the only interviews in the film. and that's why it's clarence thomas in his own words, but it was a 25-hour interview and it's only two hour film. so my co-auth book mark, paelletta, a long-term friend of the thomases had the idea that we should take some of that materia
well, that was the trailer to our film called created equal clarence thomas and his own words. the same title is the book. it's a two-hour film. it was released in january of 2020 was in a bunch of theaters 110 theaters and then covid cut. it's the actual release short. it was then broadcast nationally on pbs in may did very well on pbs and then it was released digitally and it's still available digitally. it's on amazon and viewers can go to our website manifold productions.com with a full...
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i will nominate judge clarence thomas to serve as associate justice of the united states supreme court. that's when oh heck broke loose judge thomas began to use work situations to discuss sex. we know exactly what's going on here. this is the wrong black guy. he has to be destroyed you really didn't matter what mattered was what they wanted so you'd still like to serve on the supreme court. i'd rather die than withdraw from the process. that wouldn't be able to say my lived up to my oath and did my best. so michael pack, what were we just watching there? well, that was the trailer to our film called created equal clarence thomas and his own words. the same title is the book. it's a two-hour film. it was released in january of 2020 was in a bunch of theaters 110 theaters and then covid cut. it's the actual release short. it was then broadcast nationally on pbs in may did very well on pbs and then it was released digitally and it's still available digitally. it's on amazon and viewers can go to our website manifold productions.com with a full list of how to watch it. and that film was b
i will nominate judge clarence thomas to serve as associate justice of the united states supreme court. that's when oh heck broke loose judge thomas began to use work situations to discuss sex. we know exactly what's going on here. this is the wrong black guy. he has to be destroyed you really didn't matter what mattered was what they wanted so you'd still like to serve on the supreme court. i'd rather die than withdraw from the process. that wouldn't be able to say my lived up to my oath and...
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compelling testimony from ginni thomas, right-wing activist and wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. >> he's a committee planning on talking to ginni thomas, even though her lawyer has expressed a reluctance to cooperate? >> we are. the committees engage with our council. we certainly hope that she will agree to comment voluntarily. the committee's fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena. if she does not. i hope that it doesn't get that, i hope she will come in voluntarily. >> ginni thomas, you remember repeatedly correspondent with and white house chief of staff mark meadows, and trump's lawyer john eastman who's pushing what became the former president's game to overturn the election. so, talking to her with all that could entail what lies ahead for the committee impossibly -- also ahead, the criminal grand jury in jersey probing the former presidents meddling there, to new developments to tell you about on that tonight. we have new reporting as well on the dark cloud hanging over, the fact that a recent poll 70, percent of republicans now believe some variation of this dangerous
compelling testimony from ginni thomas, right-wing activist and wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. >> he's a committee planning on talking to ginni thomas, even though her lawyer has expressed a reluctance to cooperate? >> we are. the committees engage with our council. we certainly hope that she will agree to comment voluntarily. the committee's fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena. if she does not. i hope that it doesn't get that, i hope she will come in...
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said [bleep] you, clarence thomas.>> jason: not quite setting the unifying example, is she? here with reaction, the cohost of "outnumbered," emily compagno and roy murdoch. emily, i'm going to start with you because to get a little lecture from the mayor of chicago about stability, i don't know, it's just a little too much for me. >> it is too much and there are two takeaways here. one, her hypocrisy and two is that rhetoric matters. let's start with her hypocrisy for a second because in the same speech when she called for stability and unity she also mentioned that those men and women in uniform, chicago police department she said risk life and limb every day for our safety, which is true. but it was her that defunded the chicago police department by $80 million in 2020. she's never been a public advocate for them and that is why in part and did the deadliest year in chicago history in a quarter-century, and this year they've lost already 326 people to gun violence. she continues down the path of words only, and her a
said [bleep] you, clarence thomas.>> jason: not quite setting the unifying example, is she? here with reaction, the cohost of "outnumbered," emily compagno and roy murdoch. emily, i'm going to start with you because to get a little lecture from the mayor of chicago about stability, i don't know, it's just a little too much for me. >> it is too much and there are two takeaways here. one, her hypocrisy and two is that rhetoric matters. let's start with her hypocrisy for a...
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clarence thomas presents the biggest threat to the left.rs most of course are white conservatives. the only thing worse than a white conservative is the black conservative. the only thing worse than the black conservative is a black conservative who used to be angry like clarence thomas. he used to be very angry by his own admission. no longer is. he no longer buys the lines the democrats want you to buy, which is that america is systemically racist, and why? because the democrats rely on identity politics. they have lost the white vote, shannon, since 1964. they need the votes of blacks and browns and the way to get the votes in their view is to tell them that they are perpetual victims and we, by the way, are the who wear the white hat and these republicans over there, they wear the black cats, so pull that lever and vote for us, because without getting that nearly unanimous black vote and formally close to unanimous hispanic vote, they cannot win and they are losing it and as a result, some delay clarence thomas has got to be demeaned. a
clarence thomas presents the biggest threat to the left.rs most of course are white conservatives. the only thing worse than a white conservative is the black conservative. the only thing worse than the black conservative is a black conservative who used to be angry like clarence thomas. he used to be very angry by his own admission. no longer is. he no longer buys the lines the democrats want you to buy, which is that america is systemically racist, and why? because the democrats rely on...
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of course, clarence thomas didn't suggest we should reexamine loving v.iage is a fundamental right. the decision is about interracial marriage which clarence thomas benefits from that law and that reading of the constitution. so all of this is circular inn anity and pandering to the big knots. >> it's not that to the extent that cruise is dig fieg what clarence thomas wrote that the other just sis said we are not talking about that. you heard him say historically as a matter of tradition marriage was left up to the states. i mean, he just invalidated by that logic loving v. virginia which everyone will say we are not talking about that. >> alito specifically said in his ruling this doesn't raise any questions beyond abortion, but clarence thomas specifically said it does and ted cruz is now saying, yeah. >> what this is about, right, is on the political side you always want to start gathering momentum politically so that the court -- because the court has traditionally been afraid of being ahead of where the public opinion is on any political issue. 70% o
of course, clarence thomas didn't suggest we should reexamine loving v.iage is a fundamental right. the decision is about interracial marriage which clarence thomas benefits from that law and that reading of the constitution. so all of this is circular inn anity and pandering to the big knots. >> it's not that to the extent that cruise is dig fieg what clarence thomas wrote that the other just sis said we are not talking about that. you heard him say historically as a matter of tradition...
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she's the wife of clarence thomas. , she's neither an ordinary washington spouse or a bystander. >> virginia ginni thomas, wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas has some explaining to do. like what about those emails she exchanged with john eastman, who the house january 6th committee says helped device a scheme to overturn the election. it's unclear what thomas said to eastman in the emails or if she will appear before the committee to try to explain any of it. the committee is trying to investigate more than two dozen text messages thomas sent to mark meadows, donald trump's chief of staff. >> the second reagan revolution is growing. >> reporter: in one text from november of 2020, ginni thomas wrote to meadows, help this great president stand firm, mark. the majority knows bide skpn the left is attempting the greatest heist of our history. in another she seemed to embrace a long-held false qanon conspiracy theory that trump had water marked mail-in ballots so he could track fraud. she wrote, it's been part of
she's the wife of clarence thomas. , she's neither an ordinary washington spouse or a bystander. >> virginia ginni thomas, wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas has some explaining to do. like what about those emails she exchanged with john eastman, who the house january 6th committee says helped device a scheme to overturn the election. it's unclear what thomas said to eastman in the emails or if she will appear before the committee to try to explain any of it. the committee is...
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in fact, in a concurring opinion in dobbs, justice clarence thomas explicitly called on the court to consider its decisions protecting other fundamental rights, including the right to same-sex marriage. and although justice thomas did not mention the right to interracial marriage, that right relies on the same constitutional doctrines as the right to same-sex marriage and, therefore, it could be vulnerable to legal challenge in the future as well. even if we accept the court's assurance in dobbs, that its decision does not call other rights into question, congress should provide additional reassurance that marriage equality is a matter of settled law. all married people building their lives together must know that the government must respect and recognize their marriages for all-time. the respect for marriage act, which i introduced with the co-chairs of the lgbtq equality caucus, the chairs of the congressional tricaucus and the house democratic caucus chair hakeem jeffries is an updated bill i first introduced in 2009. the first provision would repeal the defense of marriage act, do
in fact, in a concurring opinion in dobbs, justice clarence thomas explicitly called on the court to consider its decisions protecting other fundamental rights, including the right to same-sex marriage. and although justice thomas did not mention the right to interracial marriage, that right relies on the same constitutional doctrines as the right to same-sex marriage and, therefore, it could be vulnerable to legal challenge in the future as well. even if we accept the court's assurance in...
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even, even justice clarence thomas who they have worked so hard to demonize. if you look at page 119 of the opinion -- in fact, would you turn in your him nationals -- hymnals to page 119, abortion is unique. no party has asked us whether to decide whether the 14th amendment juriprudence should be questioned. nothing in the court's opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion. you now what -- you know what, language is so clear. anybody in this country can understand plainly what that means. every civic student, every child. apparently our friends on the other side don't like that language or they don't want to see it so they manufactured this crisis, this crisis, this demeaning, divisive debate trying to reopen a pandora's box that no one has opened except the democrats. this is crystal clear. we ought to take a moment to remember, too, what did not happen after the ruling after what happened after the dobbs ruling. did anybody harass justice kennedy in his home after that was handed down? no. did conservatives and tho
even, even justice clarence thomas who they have worked so hard to demonize. if you look at page 119 of the opinion -- in fact, would you turn in your him nationals -- hymnals to page 119, abortion is unique. no party has asked us whether to decide whether the 14th amendment juriprudence should be questioned. nothing in the court's opinion should be understood to cast doubt on precedents that do not concern abortion. you now what -- you know what, language is so clear. anybody in this country...
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compel testimony from ginni thomas, a conservative activist and wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, over her role in advocating to overturn the 2020 election. committee vice chair congresswoman liz cheney telling cnn they will consider a subpoena if thomas doesn't cooperate. >> we certainly hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily, but the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena if she does not. >> committee is also pushing to get more documents from the u.s. secret service and answers about the agency's potentially missing text messages from on and around january 6th. one of the committee members, congresswoman elaine luria, released previously unseen video testimony this morning, highlighting trump's reluctance to give a speech condemning the violence on the day after the insurrection. it shows trump crossed out lines from his prepared remarks on january 7th including this one, highlighted in yellow, addressed to the rioters. it said, quote, i want to be very clear, you do not represent me. he crossed that out. cnn's ryan nobles starts us off from our coverag
compel testimony from ginni thomas, a conservative activist and wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, over her role in advocating to overturn the 2020 election. committee vice chair congresswoman liz cheney telling cnn they will consider a subpoena if thomas doesn't cooperate. >> we certainly hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily, but the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena if she does not. >> committee is also pushing to get more documents from...
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that's just days after she said that -- >> thank you, [bleep] clarence thomas. highs, now's the best time in history to turn your home equity into cash. up to $60,000 or more. the newday 100 loan lets you borrow 100% of your home's value: 25% more cash than you get at a bank. give them a call. this is john. he hasn't worked this hard to only get this far with his cholesterol. taken with a statin, leqvio can lower bad cholesterol and keep it low with two doses a year. side effects were injection site reaction, joint pain, urinary tract infection, diarrhea, chest cold, pain in legs or arms, and shortness of breath. with leqvio, lowering cholesterol becomes just one more thing life throws your way. ask your doctor about leqvio. lower. longer. leqvio. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. (sighs) here, i'll take that. ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein, one gram of sugar. enter powered by protein challenge for a chance to win big. ♪♪ your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need
that's just days after she said that -- >> thank you, [bleep] clarence thomas. highs, now's the best time in history to turn your home equity into cash. up to $60,000 or more. the newday 100 loan lets you borrow 100% of your home's value: 25% more cash than you get at a bank. give them a call. this is john. he hasn't worked this hard to only get this far with his cholesterol. taken with a statin, leqvio can lower bad cholesterol and keep it low with two doses a year. side effects were...
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so clarence thomas is playing the long game. and his dissents together, they're not random points about particular cases. over the years, he's formed what sam baker at axios calls his own body of law. his own precedence. except it is one man, one justice speaking for himself. he's an incredible fact in sam baker's story. that is, in the one person abortion comments that thomas made, he cited 11 of his own precedents. here's another quirk about his muscle inside the court. the senior justice, the longest serving justice on the winning side gets to assign the writing of the opinion. thomas can assign -- if chief justice roberts is not in the majority, clarence thomas can assign it to himself, or he can assign it to whichever justice he thinks would most likely reflect his views but also keep the majority. >> justice alito, of course, wrote the decision to overturn roe v. wade. thomas' wife, ginni thomas, in the news of late, as someone who tried to overthrow the 2020 election results. but let's stay on supreme court justice claren
so clarence thomas is playing the long game. and his dissents together, they're not random points about particular cases. over the years, he's formed what sam baker at axios calls his own body of law. his own precedence. except it is one man, one justice speaking for himself. he's an incredible fact in sam baker's story. that is, in the one person abortion comments that thomas made, he cited 11 of his own precedents. here's another quirk about his muscle inside the court. the senior justice,...
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[laughter] but we know clarence thomas chomping at the bit to get at our rights. the current court is a threat not just to our country is not just our democracy but our planet because last month climate change, a single greatest existential threat threat to our planet, the courts crippled the administration's ability to mitigate to address, think forwardly and remediate. this are right court, they made these decisions to act against the will of the human race not to mention american people. while the court's growing legitimacy crisis is visible now more than ever the conservative legal movement was eroding our right long before. in 2010 the court ruled wealthy donors and corporations have more say in our elections than the rest of us. 2013, getting the voting rights act in 2018, put forth and upheld trumps xenophobic muslim ban. the court dismantling our democracy before they overturned roe v. wade and if they have their way, they will continue. some might think we are proposing something extreme. i think it is reasonable, reflective and responsive. if there's a m
[laughter] but we know clarence thomas chomping at the bit to get at our rights. the current court is a threat not just to our country is not just our democracy but our planet because last month climate change, a single greatest existential threat threat to our planet, the courts crippled the administration's ability to mitigate to address, think forwardly and remediate. this are right court, they made these decisions to act against the will of the human race not to mention american people....
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clarence thomas is an american hero.his speech, north is north no matter where you are. he didn't move, the left has. he stayed true to the principles of the american constitution. life stories just amazing. it's easy to take cracks at it for the 2016 election loss. thank god fordon's victory in 2016. we have an embassy in jerusalem and three supreme court justices. we would be living in a far different country right now if hillary clinton won. >> i can't even imagine. the level of criminality from the clinton to the bidens that would still not be unearthed because there wouldn't be an interest in doing it. don also was so disruptive that he forced the left out of the tall grass, their hiding positions. they were forced to expose themselves for who they are from the deep state to the media to the justice department and their politics. we know who they are now. and they are still trying to do it with this july 6 committee. it's hard to make tangible the upside. the wall would have stayed hidden would it to have been hilla
clarence thomas is an american hero.his speech, north is north no matter where you are. he didn't move, the left has. he stayed true to the principles of the american constitution. life stories just amazing. it's easy to take cracks at it for the 2016 election loss. thank god fordon's victory in 2016. we have an embassy in jerusalem and three supreme court justices. we would be living in a far different country right now if hillary clinton won. >> i can't even imagine. the level of...
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. >> todd: talk about the current mayor, remember when mayor lightfoot said this about clarence thomas? >> [indiscernible] -- he said, [bleep] clarence thomas. >> todd: here is what she's saying now. >> people are losing respect for the institutions of our democracy, the toxicity in the public discourse is a thing we should be concerned about. >> todd: does she not see how ridiculous the hypocrisy there sounds. >> she said f-u to clarence thomas and to a sitting president. talk about toxicity, she is epicenter of politics in chicago and she's failed our city miserably and no matter how much she tries to change the narrative now, she won't be able to undo the fact that three years have taken -- track. >> todd: thank you, sir. to arizona, justice department suing arizona to block state law requiring proof of citizenship to vote in federal election. the ag says in addition to free rooms and transportation, the doj wants to give them a chance to vote, another round of bernovic verse us biden. >> it is not a question sometimes of people purposely voting illegally, you could have a citizen o
. >> todd: talk about the current mayor, remember when mayor lightfoot said this about clarence thomas? >> [indiscernible] -- he said, [bleep] clarence thomas. >> todd: here is what she's saying now. >> people are losing respect for the institutions of our democracy, the toxicity in the public discourse is a thing we should be concerned about. >> todd: does she not see how ridiculous the hypocrisy there sounds. >> she said f-u to clarence thomas and to a...
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your thoughts on what this means from ted cruz, who seems to be taking his clues from clarence thomassize, they say, we'll stop right here, we promise, and thomas says, actually, there's a lot of stuff we want to do. used to be called sodomy. we're getting into people's homes. >> it's about privacy and autonomy and i think cruz is trying to one up the current tone of the gop. we know clarence thomas did write that, but it was in a draft that was said to be authored by alito. i think cruz of course with 2024 visions is trying to build up republican voters by saying it. he's going on the record here. the one thing that gets under my skin is truly he says two centuries. i'm like, how far is ted cruz going to take this? how far is the republican party going to take this knowing they're going to erase basic history or different cultures or lgbtq individuals? >> yeah. cameron, you've work in the biden white house. that's a place where everybody's working hard, but dealing with these larger systemic issues. i mean, the supreme court does set the law of the land. just curious what you think h
your thoughts on what this means from ted cruz, who seems to be taking his clues from clarence thomassize, they say, we'll stop right here, we promise, and thomas says, actually, there's a lot of stuff we want to do. used to be called sodomy. we're getting into people's homes. >> it's about privacy and autonomy and i think cruz is trying to one up the current tone of the gop. we know clarence thomas did write that, but it was in a draft that was said to be authored by alito. i think cruz...
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that same lawyer also had direct contact with ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomashe lead up to january 6th for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause >> seth: these hearings keep providing us with more damning evidence that trump's attempted coup wasn't just some spontaneous outbreak of mob violence it was a detailed plan orchestrated by figures including trump himself, who had criminal intent and who almost certainly knew what they were doing was illegal. i know on one level that's obvious, but it's still important to establish it's kind of like how you know the mysterious british husband in the hbo mini series is the bad guy just from looking at him. but you still need to, like, watch hugh grant push a dude out a window just to be sure and even then, nicole kidman's character will probably still be like, "i just don't know what to think. fetch me my giant shawl. i need to go for a midnight walk." for example, the committee played new video from a deposition with pence's former chief of staff, marc short, where short said pence has ma
that same lawyer also had direct contact with ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomashe lead up to january 6th for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause >> seth: these hearings keep providing us with more damning evidence that trump's attempted coup wasn't just some spontaneous outbreak of mob violence it was a detailed plan orchestrated by figures including trump himself, who had criminal intent and who almost certainly...
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virginia, which clarence thomas who is married to a white woman, did not bring up. argument is democrats are just doing this to scare people, to try to get their voters to the polls. this is not a real threat. >> well, this isn't a partisan issue at all. and in fact, that's why i feel very hopeful that we will have more than 60 votes in order to codify the respect for marriage act. but i can tell you that a case as significant as the overturning of roe v. wade in dobbs, that overturns 49 years of precedent. women in america have less freedom today than their mothers and grandmothers had. and there has been much written already about the vulnerability of other rights that were decided in the same manner as the court approached dobbs. and so there is a lot of fear. there's a lot of -- there's certainly full understanding that were it not for the obergefell decision, which created marriage equality in the u.s., that there are many states that wouldn't have that right. and so this is simply a bill to say that the full faith and credit of the united states will be placed
virginia, which clarence thomas who is married to a white woman, did not bring up. argument is democrats are just doing this to scare people, to try to get their voters to the polls. this is not a real threat. >> well, this isn't a partisan issue at all. and in fact, that's why i feel very hopeful that we will have more than 60 votes in order to codify the respect for marriage act. but i can tell you that a case as significant as the overturning of roe v. wade in dobbs, that overturns 49...
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the idea that clarence thomas said the supreme court should look at that, now that we know we have ancked supreme court turning over law that is nearly a half century when it comes to something like roe i think everything is at risk especially when clarence thomas wrote it in the decision. it is something we have to be aware of and why house democrats put this bill on the floor today. >> it is a conservative supreme court. part of the knock on congress before this was, listen. you had many years to codify abortion into federal law. many, many years. there seemed to be this feeling among lawmakers. maybe among a lot of americans that once the supreme court ruled on it initially, that is the way it would always be and would never come to a place where it was overturned by the supreme court. looking at same sex marriage, contraception, is that the new way forward for lawmakers, for democrats to say, we don't want to even let this get to the supreme court, we're going to make sure we're going to codify all of these basic protections? >> we may have to. unfortunately this is a supremacist
the idea that clarence thomas said the supreme court should look at that, now that we know we have ancked supreme court turning over law that is nearly a half century when it comes to something like roe i think everything is at risk especially when clarence thomas wrote it in the decision. it is something we have to be aware of and why house democrats put this bill on the floor today. >> it is a conservative supreme court. part of the knock on congress before this was, listen. you had...
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and in addition to mentioning griswold versus connecticut, clarence thomas also i should say justice omas with all due respect, mentioned loving, lawrence, berger felt all on the chopping block. all of those rights on this supreme court's hit list. and perhaps the most deeply rooted of them all and griswold versus connecticut, the right to contraception. let's be clear the right to contraception wasn't stated in the constitution. but the right to privacy is at its core, do not tread on me. the right to be let alone, that is the reason we have the bill of rights. that is the reason why the founders rebelled against england. unjustified interference in their personal lives. to the right to privacy is referred to often. it's actually at the core of the constitution is so fundamental to the mindset, and the mantra of those constitutional guarantees. for the very founding of our republic of the respect for thel right of privacy should be by partisan. indeed has been bipartisan throughout our history. the simple fact is, that the most important decision any of us make at least in my view is
and in addition to mentioning griswold versus connecticut, clarence thomas also i should say justice omas with all due respect, mentioned loving, lawrence, berger felt all on the chopping block. all of those rights on this supreme court's hit list. and perhaps the most deeply rooted of them all and griswold versus connecticut, the right to contraception. let's be clear the right to contraception wasn't stated in the constitution. but the right to privacy is at its core, do not tread on me. the...
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critics are calling out the house panel investigating january 6 for setting its sights on clarence thomas and his wife. the panel says it is fully prepared to subpoena jenny thomas who reportedly texted former white house staff -- chief of staff mark meadows about fighting to reverse the results of the 2020 presidential election. committee member adam schiff going after justice thomas himself over a supreme court ruling earlier this year. let's watch. >> in this case for clarence thomas to issue a decision in a case, in a sensitive case where congress is trying to get documents and those documents might involve his own wife, that's the line that has been crossed. >> they argue a subpoena for jenny thomas is about trashing clarence thomas. you agree with that. your thoughts. >> this is just a further effort, further part of their effort to intimidate the w the supreme court. talking about gorsuch and kavanaugh and continuing with jerry nadler the chairman of the judiciary committee to add four associate justices to the united states security to pack the court and hearings on justice thomas
critics are calling out the house panel investigating january 6 for setting its sights on clarence thomas and his wife. the panel says it is fully prepared to subpoena jenny thomas who reportedly texted former white house staff -- chief of staff mark meadows about fighting to reverse the results of the 2020 presidential election. committee member adam schiff going after justice thomas himself over a supreme court ruling earlier this year. let's watch. >> in this case for clarence thomas...
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. >> the senate will vote on the supreme court nomination of clarence thomas. but some are worried about a threat of sexual harassment from years ago. >> they were going to judge him on his conservative views. his race was not going to be an issue. but the anita hill allegations brought race back into the picture. >> the senate judiciary committee is meeting to hear evidence on sexual harassment charges made against judge clarence thomas. >> he spoke about acts that he had seen in pornographic films involving such matters as women having sex with animals. >> this seemingly personal matter is being aired out in front of this jury of all white men and created quite a spectacle. >> this is a circus. from my standpoint as a black american, as far as i'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching. >> clarence thomas decided to fight back by evoking one of the most painful elements of black history which was designed to point out the burden of being black. >> the final count was 52 to 48. the closest successful nomination vote in supreme court history. >> no matter how pa
. >> the senate will vote on the supreme court nomination of clarence thomas. but some are worried about a threat of sexual harassment from years ago. >> they were going to judge him on his conservative views. his race was not going to be an issue. but the anita hill allegations brought race back into the picture. >> the senate judiciary committee is meeting to hear evidence on sexual harassment charges made against judge clarence thomas. >> he spoke about acts that he...
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to subpoena conservative activist ginni thomas thomas who is married to supreme court justice clarence thomas was asked to voluntarily come forward last month but hasn't yet responded. the committee hopes to learn more about her efforts to keep former president donald trump in office and is examining the potential conflicts of interest for clarence thomas. as a result of january 6 cases that have come before the supreme court. >> coming up here, the san francisco marathon has wrapped up along the city's waterfront. we've got details on the new category added to this year's race stories this year's race stories coming up next. it's beautiful out here. it sure is. and i earn 5% cash back on travel purchased through chase with chase freedom unlimited. that means that i earn 5% on our rental car, i earn 5% on our cabin. i mean, c'mon! hello cashback! hello, kevin hart! i'm scared. in a good way. i'm lying. let's get inside. earn big time with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? chase. make more of what's yours. >> the 45th annual san francisco marathon took place toda
to subpoena conservative activist ginni thomas thomas who is married to supreme court justice clarence thomas was asked to voluntarily come forward last month but hasn't yet responded. the committee hopes to learn more about her efforts to keep former president donald trump in office and is examining the potential conflicts of interest for clarence thomas. as a result of january 6 cases that have come before the supreme court. >> coming up here, the san francisco marathon has wrapped up...
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. >>> the january 6th committee says it wants to talk to the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. why they say a subpoena might be necessary. >>> and the brooklyn pastor robbed at gunpoint while live-streaming a sermon, the surprising chaul the thieves mae off. >>> all that plus the new scandal involving elon musk. >>> and straight out of a science fiction movie the robot going rogue injuring a child. >>> plus, caught on camera. the moment a breaching whale lands on top of a fishing boat. it's monday, july 25th. >>> good monday morning, everyone. we begin with the top story, that really acted definitely both of us and many other people, of course we're talking about the deadly heat wave that affected millions of americans. >> not a lot of signs that it's slowing up, many cities are seeing record-breaking temperatures, readings hitting triple dimgts in the northeast. >> at least four cities set new marks includes boston, for some areas, the heat give way to storms later today. >>> in california, the oak fire has burned at least ten structures, these newlyweds coming back to their
. >>> the january 6th committee says it wants to talk to the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. why they say a subpoena might be necessary. >>> and the brooklyn pastor robbed at gunpoint while live-streaming a sermon, the surprising chaul the thieves mae off. >>> all that plus the new scandal involving elon musk. >>> and straight out of a science fiction movie the robot going rogue injuring a child. >>> plus, caught on camera. the moment...
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i believe clarence thomas -- at first i was upset.larence thomas releasees the agenda of where the supreme court is headed and he put that out there so they could codify gay marriage and stuff. he is not man enough to say it. just listen to jim jordan. it is outrageous. host: the previous caller said this move was a distraction for everything that was going on with gas and inflation. what do you think about that? he hung up. this is diedrich in virginia, independent line. caller: hello. how are you? host: find thank you. go ahead. caller: the first two callers could not be more disingenuous. the bottom line is this case will come in front of this court. the current opinion by justice thomas was very clear. jim jordan's statement about the 35 states that already have the ban on the books was clear. there is no other need. ted cruz clearly said this was wrongly decided. that is clear. all we are waiting for is when the senate blocks it. everyone knows it is going to be blocked. they will use the same excuses, distraction, etc., but that
i believe clarence thomas -- at first i was upset.larence thomas releasees the agenda of where the supreme court is headed and he put that out there so they could codify gay marriage and stuff. he is not man enough to say it. just listen to jim jordan. it is outrageous. host: the previous caller said this move was a distraction for everything that was going on with gas and inflation. what do you think about that? he hung up. this is diedrich in virginia, independent line. caller: hello. how are...
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shouldn't ginni thomas realize, and clarence thomas, he is a sitting supreme court justice. even if you sit down with his wife, and they have a conversation stop it? i mean come on. >> the guardrails have been eroded. >> it's ridiculous this actually happening in our country. >> it is, i hear you on that. the issue, is the kind of common sense and decency was a key assumed. you supreme court justice, with parkas responsibility, everybody has their own opinions, you're titled here on opinions not your own facts. but if you are the supreme court justices immediate family, you have to rein in then a little bit out of respect for the role he has played. those guardrails are gone, it's a function of hyperpartisan ship in polarization, as made as crazy as a society. >> isn't it crazy that people would just -- as you, said there is no guardrails. we will just do what they want to do, and there are no consequences for it. >> it's particularly ironic from some with the conservative position, given a particularly talk about civic responsibility. >> elliott? >> >> don, i've written abo
shouldn't ginni thomas realize, and clarence thomas, he is a sitting supreme court justice. even if you sit down with his wife, and they have a conversation stop it? i mean come on. >> the guardrails have been eroded. >> it's ridiculous this actually happening in our country. >> it is, i hear you on that. the issue, is the kind of common sense and decency was a key assumed. you supreme court justice, with parkas responsibility, everybody has their own opinions, you're titled...
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tv, protests at his home or the been decision, daddy, who is clarence thomas? well, we talked about three parts of the government, president, the congress where daddy works and the supreme court justices and clarence thomas is one of the justices. and then my five-year-old said, if he's the best on the supreme court, did he beat joe biden and stop all of biden's bad taxes. i said he probably could, but we don't-- and if you want he'll stop them, but we don't want to lose him on the court. >> oh, i love it. from the mouths of babes, yeah. >> they're listening to everything going -- their minds are absorbing everything. >> such a wonderful story. >> that is. at my swearing in, my second swearing in, the first swearing in, a lot of hoopla and party, and the second one my reelection in 2020 let's just say was not quite as contentious race so we didn't have anyone except my wife and kids and on the internet voe went viral and my then four-year-old was with my wife and then six-year-old and standing there and i noticed my six-year-old untucked his shirt and my wife a
tv, protests at his home or the been decision, daddy, who is clarence thomas? well, we talked about three parts of the government, president, the congress where daddy works and the supreme court justices and clarence thomas is one of the justices. and then my five-year-old said, if he's the best on the supreme court, did he beat joe biden and stop all of biden's bad taxes. i said he probably could, but we don't-- and if you want he'll stop them, but we don't want to lose him on the court....
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the "newsroom," the january 6 committee eyes ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas for her role in trying to help overturn the 2020 election. >> we certainly hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily, but the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena if she does not. >>> plus -- >> it was scary when we left because we were getting ashes on us, but we had such a visual of this billowing. it just seemed like it was above our house and coming our way really quickly. >> forced to flee. thousands of acres burn outside yosemite park. firefighters try to beat back the flames. >>> and deadly heat continues to punish the country. 90 million people are suffering in scorching temperatures. many areas hitting the triple digits. "newsroom" starts now. >>> hello, everyone. thank you so much for joining me this sunday. i'm fredricka whitfield. we begin this hour with new developments in the january 6 investigation. today republican liz cheney, the vice chair for the committee, not only put ginni thomas, the wife of u.s. supreme court justice clarence thomas, on n
the "newsroom," the january 6 committee eyes ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas for her role in trying to help overturn the 2020 election. >> we certainly hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily, but the committee is fully prepared to contemplate a subpoena if she does not. >>> plus -- >> it was scary when we left because we were getting ashes on us, but we had such a visual of this billowing. it just seemed like it was above...
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thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, justice thomas the only person on the supremee record you are seeing revealed in all the committee hearings. >> is your committee playing on talking to jenny thomas even though the lawyer has respected an expected reluctance? >> we are and the committees engaged with counsel and we hope she will agree to come in voluntarily. >> the january 6th commission has extra weight behind it this morning. on friday, a jury took just a matter of hours to convict former tribe adviser steve bannon with contempt for refusing to testify to congress and he will be sentenced in october. we love talking to on social media. on twitter you will find me there @scottmcgrew. >>> a huge scare for boaters at plymouth, massachusetts, you see a huge wail, look at that. that landing on top of a nearby boat, it caused damage to the bow of that 19 foot boat, but most importantly no one was injured. >> will that is a fishing story but i would be calling my brother and say guess what i caught today? >> all right. so this morning adorable cartoons taken internet
thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas, justice thomas the only person on the supremee record you are seeing revealed in all the committee hearings. >> is your committee playing on talking to jenny thomas even though the lawyer has respected an expected reluctance? >> we are and the committees engaged with counsel and we hope she will agree to come in voluntarily. >> the january 6th commission has extra weight behind it this morning. on friday, a jury took...
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they attacked clarence thomas.hairman of the january 6th committee referred to clarence thomas as an uncle tom, nobody said a word. regarding congresswoman flores, it wasn't even the vitriolic part that was the most vulgar, the most offensive was what they said about her body, about her anatomy. my goodness, who says stuff like that? god forbid you start asking questions such as why is it that 85% of black eighth graders in america can neither read nor do math proficiency levels? why is that we have a 50% dropout rate in our inner city schools? why is it that 70% of black kids and about half of hispanic kids enter the world without a father married to the mother? this is what we should ask instead of spending time aligning people like congresswoman flores and clarence thomas and myself. but that is how they roll. that is how disgusting these people are. >> sean: congresswoman, what is your response? are you going to double down, you are running for reelection, correct? >> absolutely. i live in prayer every single d
they attacked clarence thomas.hairman of the january 6th committee referred to clarence thomas as an uncle tom, nobody said a word. regarding congresswoman flores, it wasn't even the vitriolic part that was the most vulgar, the most offensive was what they said about her body, about her anatomy. my goodness, who says stuff like that? god forbid you start asking questions such as why is it that 85% of black eighth graders in america can neither read nor do math proficiency levels? why is that we...
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cheney, the vice chair for the committee, put ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomasey told cnn thomas could be subpoenaed to testify for her role in trying to help overturn the 2020 election. cheney also accused former president trump of serious misconduct and dereliction of duty and says the committee is not ruling out recommending criminal charges against him. >> there's no question we've seen very serious misconduct, and certainly supreme dereliction of duty. but you look at what we've laid out in these hearings in terms of the president's efforts to corrupt the department of justice, to corruptly pressure state and local officials, certainly what he did in terms of attempting to pressure the vice president to violate the law and the constitution, and then what we saw last week in terms of once he had sent the armed mob to the capitol to refuse to call them off and send them home for multiple hours despite the fact that people, everyone, really, was pleading with him to do so, there's no doubt in my mind the president of the united states is unfit for further offi
cheney, the vice chair for the committee, put ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomasey told cnn thomas could be subpoenaed to testify for her role in trying to help overturn the 2020 election. cheney also accused former president trump of serious misconduct and dereliction of duty and says the committee is not ruling out recommending criminal charges against him. >> there's no question we've seen very serious misconduct, and certainly supreme dereliction of duty....
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in this case, for clarence thomas to issue a decision in a case, a dissent in a case where congress ising to get documents and those documents might involve his own wife, that's the line that has been crossed. and i think for agrees to be looking into these issues, looking into conflict of interest issues, but here looking into issues whether it involves the wife of a supreme court justice or anyone else, if they have information or a role to overturn an election, yes, they are not excluded from examination. >> sounds like you are saying you favor that subpoena? >> well, if she has relevant information to our investigation, we hope she comes in voluntarily. but if she doesn't, we should give that serious consideration and, yes, i think those that we decide have important enough information should be subpoenaed. >> liz cheney says the committee expects to hear from tony ornado, that lead secret service agent, and he and another have hired private criminal defense counsel. what does that suggest to you? >> well, you know, i think if they are hiring criminal defense counsel, then they pro
in this case, for clarence thomas to issue a decision in a case, a dissent in a case where congress ising to get documents and those documents might involve his own wife, that's the line that has been crossed. and i think for agrees to be looking into these issues, looking into conflict of interest issues, but here looking into issues whether it involves the wife of a supreme court justice or anyone else, if they have information or a role to overturn an election, yes, they are not excluded...
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in created equal clarence thomas in his own words authors, michael pack and mark paelletta trace justice thomas's early life and judicial career through personal interviews and documents. and laurie garver reflects on her career and work at nasa in escaping gravity my quest to transform nasa and launch a new space age. markley gardner pens a dual biography of two native american leaders in the earth is all that lasts crazy horse sitting bull and the last stand of the great sioux nation. another book that's coming out. this week is investigative. journalists. marie brenner's the desperate hours one hospital's fight to save a city on the pandemics front lines. it chronicles how covid affected and transformed new york presbyterian hospital? now all of these books and authors you will see featured on book tv in the near future. well each week major newspapers and publications across the nation come out with reviews of newly released books. here's a sampling. jennifer harper of the washington times who writes a daily politics section called inside the beltway offered her take on the new book
in created equal clarence thomas in his own words authors, michael pack and mark paelletta trace justice thomas's early life and judicial career through personal interviews and documents. and laurie garver reflects on her career and work at nasa in escaping gravity my quest to transform nasa and launch a new space age. markley gardner pens a dual biography of two native american leaders in the earth is all that lasts crazy horse sitting bull and the last stand of the great sioux nation. another...
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basically, clarence thomas is asking for the cases that are going to take this further, going to go to regular birth control, iuds, the morning-after pill, the birth-control pill, gay marriage. i mean, there seems to be, unfortunately, a political agenda on the court that we haven't seen before. >> 22 states are poised to ban abortion in most or all circumstances, either because they have abortion bans still on their books, the so-called zombie laws, or because they've passed trigger laws banning abortion after roe was overturned. what does this mean for women in those states? >> well, it means that, particularly for lower-economic women, that this is going to be a real issue. it's a way of keeping women down, frankly. i mean, the thing that bothers me about all of this is that it almost seems as if women really aren't important. i mean, women will die -- abortions are gonna happen. >> yeah. >> but they're gonna have to seek out back-alley, illegal abortions. and we've been here before. we've seen what's happened before, and women will die. but that doesn't seem to matter to the people
basically, clarence thomas is asking for the cases that are going to take this further, going to go to regular birth control, iuds, the morning-after pill, the birth-control pill, gay marriage. i mean, there seems to be, unfortunately, a political agenda on the court that we haven't seen before. >> 22 states are poised to ban abortion in most or all circumstances, either because they have abortion bans still on their books, the so-called zombie laws, or because they've passed trigger laws...
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she was involved in the stop the steal effort and is the wife of clarence thomas. is the only person on the supreme court to vote to block the records . >> is your committee planning on talking to virginia thomas even though her lawyer has expressed reluctance to cooperate? >> the committee is engaged. we hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily. the committee is fully prepared to subpoena. i hope it doesn't get to that. >> reporter: the commission has some extra weight behind it this morning. on friday the jury convicted steve bannon of contempt for refusing to testify to congress and will be sentenced in october. >>> we love the discussion on social media. on facebook we can do that @scottmcgrewtv. >>> a new set of shark sightings cannot come at a worse time . it led to closures over the weekend along new york long island and cape cod. there was new attacks and several since last month. one florida shark expert explains the simple reason more sharks are coming. >> they mistake the people for the food that they are after. it is really just the consequence.
she was involved in the stop the steal effort and is the wife of clarence thomas. is the only person on the supreme court to vote to block the records . >> is your committee planning on talking to virginia thomas even though her lawyer has expressed reluctance to cooperate? >> the committee is engaged. we hope that she will agree to come in voluntarily. the committee is fully prepared to subpoena. i hope it doesn't get to that. >> reporter: the commission has some extra...
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shouldn't ginni thomas realize, and clarence thomas, he is a sitting supreme court justice.hould he sat down with his wife and they have a conversation to stop it? come on! >> guardrails. we >> it's ridiculous that this is happening in our country. >> it, isn't in the, past this sort of comment, since common decency was assumed. supreme court justice, with power comes responsibility, everyone has their opinion, but if you were the supreme court justices immediate family, you had to rein it in a little bit, out of respect for the role he's played. those guardrails are gone, it's a function of the way the hyper partisanship and polarization is made is crazy acai. >> isn't that a function that people will just, as you said, there's no guardrails, but they just do what they want to do and there are no consequences for it? >> it's particularly ironic with someone from a conservative position. but it's the absence of guardrails. >> elliott? >> oh, don, i've written about the thomas is toys for cnn opinion. this is bad and destroying the reputation of the supreme court where the pu
shouldn't ginni thomas realize, and clarence thomas, he is a sitting supreme court justice.hould he sat down with his wife and they have a conversation to stop it? come on! >> guardrails. we >> it's ridiculous that this is happening in our country. >> it, isn't in the, past this sort of comment, since common decency was assumed. supreme court justice, with power comes responsibility, everyone has their opinion, but if you were the supreme court justices immediate family, you...
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you know, we heard from clarence thomas, same-sex marriage, gay rights, they are after all of us. so this is existential now for the united states of america. this court has not only turned on its head the kinds of decisions that undermine our justice system, but are against what the majority of americans are asking for. they don't care. and so we have a chance right now to act. but it's going to take bold action. but it's not unprecedented action. the number on the court is not set in stone. we can do this if we have the courage and the stamina and the will to get it done. i believe that we do, too much is at stake. everything that we care about is on the line. their willingness -- and lie about it, by the way, some of these justice, most of these justices said that they believed in precedent, that they would agree that things like roe v. wade was part of that. they simply lied to us. they stalled the election -- stole the election. people were chosen that never were legitimate to be there at the time that they were there you've heard all about this. and so i'm just calling on my
you know, we heard from clarence thomas, same-sex marriage, gay rights, they are after all of us. so this is existential now for the united states of america. this court has not only turned on its head the kinds of decisions that undermine our justice system, but are against what the majority of americans are asking for. they don't care. and so we have a chance right now to act. but it's going to take bold action. but it's not unprecedented action. the number on the court is not set in stone....
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justice clarence thomas.lt of january 6 cases that have come before the supreme court. back here at home, the city of san francisco asking for help deciding on a new trash can design officials say the current ones costs too much to maintain and are easy to break into kron four's. gayle ong has the story. the existing trash cans we have on the street. we call the renaissance cancer, the green metal ones and their name. all the more fitting now because they will soon be a part of history. they've been on the street for about 20 years >> they've lived their natural life. they're pretty beat up and they really need replacing francisco public works has placed 6 trashcan models across the city. >> part of a pilot program hoping city residents will weigh in and help them pick san francisco's new trash can. if they're going to we need more. >> add time and i've seen a few like overflowing not and seeing them in a fever, which it would be solved by having more current plan calls for purchasing of 3,000 new cans. the c
justice clarence thomas.lt of january 6 cases that have come before the supreme court. back here at home, the city of san francisco asking for help deciding on a new trash can design officials say the current ones costs too much to maintain and are easy to break into kron four's. gayle ong has the story. the existing trash cans we have on the street. we call the renaissance cancer, the green metal ones and their name. all the more fitting now because they will soon be a part of history. they've...
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. >> instead of just fact checking, supreme court justice clarence thomas that also wrote thatis part of it. >> let me be clear that there were no aborted fetus cells used in vaccines. and i think that this carries weight and that is the point. >> let's be clear, that's not what he said it all. he says justice thomas included a description of the health care workers that some covid-19 vaccines were developed using aborted fetal cells. pointing out this nugget as well. some vaccines have used fetal cell lines during the early stages of development. got it? let's move on. there's also the eta that sent the media and the left into a tailspin. >> re-warming the climate, causing climate change. the supreme court had curbed one of the most effective tools to drastically curbing these omissions. >> i guess it is all something we need to clear up for you. congress did not give them the power in the first place to do so. they merely affirm the fact. this was him going on for years and it's no wonder that trust in the media is down. twenty now is someone who is up. he felt the frustratio
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and justice clarence thomas and his conquered opinion was honest in setting his sights and the sitesjority on the supreme court. that far-right 63 majority on the supreme court, another fundamental rights, like the right to manage equality. it's why i am so glad that the house passed my bill with jerry nadler and others last night called the respect for marriage act. >> there is a real possibility that this could pass the senate. but before i get to that, one thing that is striking here is the speed and aggressiveness with which the democrats have moved on this right? this has come together in a few weeks. it seems like an example of seizing the moment, pressing the advantage, doing the thing. how did it come together so quickly? >> imagine that, chris. democrats actually leveraging the power that they have to galvanize the american people, to turnout in november, to make sure that we finally protect fundamental rights in this country. and of course, to your point earlier, we may well get ten republican senators of good conscience to vote for this legislation. i am not counting on it
and justice clarence thomas and his conquered opinion was honest in setting his sights and the sitesjority on the supreme court. that far-right 63 majority on the supreme court, another fundamental rights, like the right to manage equality. it's why i am so glad that the house passed my bill with jerry nadler and others last night called the respect for marriage act. >> there is a real possibility that this could pass the senate. but before i get to that, one thing that is striking here...
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and we've also been talking about things like the other rights that clarence thomas signaled he wantsho you choose, thea whole new set of conversations that we've had. >> let me ask you, finally, just as the fighter -- as the battle shifts in the states, and you just met the white house, is there any thing that you can get from the government in terms of information, resources, that can help your state carry on with this fight? >> there's a whole range of supports that the federal government can still -- continue to provide to the states and those kinds of things are the things we talked about in the meeting. i think we will have an ongoing dialogue about what the federal government can do to support states, to support the right to a safe, legal abortion. and i can tell you that vice president harris was very interested in that, gave us a lot of important advice, gave us a lot of moral support, which is also important. and showed us that she was concerned. the president was very concerned. and the states [inaudible] >> minnesota attorney general, keith ellison, thank you for making ti
and we've also been talking about things like the other rights that clarence thomas signaled he wantsho you choose, thea whole new set of conversations that we've had. >> let me ask you, finally, just as the fighter -- as the battle shifts in the states, and you just met the white house, is there any thing that you can get from the government in terms of information, resources, that can help your state carry on with this fight? >> there's a whole range of supports that the federal...
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she does not. >> all right, now, that is jimmy thomas, the wife of the supreme court justice, clarence thomastalking about the one who was texting big players and the plot to overturn our democracy. so, kimberly, if jeanie thomas does comply, what you think testimony actually can add to this investigation? >> well, one thing we've seen how thorough this committee is at pulling every threat associated with january 6th. and we already know that not only was ginni thomas present at the stop the steal rally, not only has she been an active part of the maga associated movement, trying to keep donald trump in power, not only does she make calls to people in arizona and elsewhere, urging them to be a part of an effort to overturn the election. we know that donald trump thought that a part of his plan included a supreme court that would back him in the event that he made a challenge to the election. so, that, enough, without even knowing everything else that we would need ginni thomas to testify to is more than enough to make her an important witness in this investigation. and we see vice chair chene
she does not. >> all right, now, that is jimmy thomas, the wife of the supreme court justice, clarence thomastalking about the one who was texting big players and the plot to overturn our democracy. so, kimberly, if jeanie thomas does comply, what you think testimony actually can add to this investigation? >> well, one thing we've seen how thorough this committee is at pulling every threat associated with january 6th. and we already know that not only was ginni thomas present at the...