clarissa pinkola from phd, a very educated woman, and nevertheless she tries to find some truth, theth - in some fairy tales, ancient legends, that is , she is also an ethnographer, how was this book written, as i understand it, it was collected bit by bit in different parts of the world, that is, it was not such that clarissa sat down and wrote a plan of chapters in order: no... how was this book created? initially, it existed in the form of podcasts. and clarissa created it - for her daughters. what does this mean? well, first of all, she has daughters herself, that is, she began to write down history for her own daughters. and for those women whom she called her daughters. for example, she is still the director of such a community of those recognized by the virgin mary of gwoduba. this is a community organized by chicana women. chicano are women immigrants from mexico to the united states. and accordingly she began to write down these supporting stories, analyze these tales, in order to provide some kind of spiritual support to other women who needed it, and indeed this is such a

nabatnikova, my guest was varvara popova, a jungian analyst, writer, we discussed the book by clarissa pinkolawith the wolves, all episodes of the podcast are must-read, watch on the website of the first channel 1tv.ru. you have children from one husband, right, four from one, so he didn't want larisa children - how with... by the way, she gave birth for herself, he didn't want, it was my initiative, all four of them, and she did it with such cunning that it wouldn't be a grief for the mother, olya, well, in short, she gave birth to four by hook or by crook, and here you have a little trick, an evil head, she says, olya, how do you feel about surrogate motherhood, i knew that she couldn't have children, for more than 20 years, she tried, somehow you gave birth to her, after all, what moved me, i don't know, i called, i said, irina, let's do more let's try it once, i took the initiative myself, she did, that is, we didn't tell anyone, they bought me a ticket to krasnodar, just before easter, i got pregnant, she gave birth to my husband in the little house, and did you love her so much ? did you

something, but i want to say that when i was just now rereading this fairy tale performed by clarissa pinkolaut she has to know this, that is , she has to, including this bleeding key, this knowledge, from which a woman has no right to turn away, having comprehended it, having known it, she can no longer unsee it, cannot forget it, another well-known fairy tale, for example, ae armless, yeah, armless girl, yeah, what 's going on there, barbara, tell me, well, in general, there lived a miller, uh, he had no work, one day he went somewhere on his business, met an old man and made a kind of deal with them, he promised him to give him what was behind his mill, and the old man promised him everything in exchange, in general material goods, when miller returned home, it turned out that he had promised this old man, under whom the devil was actually hiding, that is, some kind of evil entity, an evil predator, his daughter, when the time came, the devil came for his reward, but the girl, on the one hand, obediently agreed to follow her father's will, on the other hand, she was so bitter... very upset