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let's dig deeper in all of this and bring in georgia state university law professor clark cunningham d republican strategist doug heye. clark, i want to start with you. what do you make of the pace of what's happening in the courthouse in fulton county right now? earlier we spoke to former lieutenant governor geoff duncan who was set to testify tomorrow. turns out he's testifying today. what do you make of that? >> district attorney fani willis kind of set herself a deadline some time ago that if the former president was going to be brought into the courthouse for arraignment, it would happen by this friday, the 18th. she's asked the other judges in the courthouse to keep people out of the courthouse, did not hold hearings, through the end of this week. if she doesn't indict in time to ar rain the former president by the end of friday, there's going to be a problem with all the security arrangements that have been made because they haven't been made past this friday. my guess is she's working to get the former president into the courthouse, my guess is by thursday. of course, it would

. >> joining me now is clark cunningham, a constitutional law professor at georgia state university.hank you so much for coming in, sir. i appreciate your time. you're quite convinced former president trump is going to have his lawyers try to get the criminal case moved to federal court. >> that's right. >> do you expect that to be successful? >> not at in the long term, but i think it's very possible it's going to tie the case up maybe even for a year before that issue gets resolved. >> what arguments would they make to try to get this -- it's called removal, right? >> right. there's a feddal law that's been around for a long time that says someone who's even a former federal fishlg like the former president is prosecuted in state court, that federal official can ask for the criminal case to be moved to federal court on the argument that the crimes he is charged with were done while he was a federal official under the color of law as part of his official duties. that's an almost automatic procedure. so mark meadows has done this. >> what would the implications be for the other 18 co

. >> clark cunningham, there's an enormous amount of evidence that a jury will hear here. one of the most high profile pieces of evidence is the phone call on january 2nd from trump to brad raffensperger, telling him to find the votes, one more than they lost by, to find the votes necessary to overturn the election. legally, what do trump's words on that phone call prove? >> well, the former president insists on calling it a perfect phone call. i don't know why he keeps doing that. i'm sure his lawyers don't think it's a perfect phone call. i've said before, i think it's perfectly incriminating. it was that phone call that got district attorney willis to start the investigative process. and i really don't see how trump's lawyers are going to effectively defend that phone call. you know, he asks for just enough votes so he can win the election. he suggests to raffensperger to say he can recalculate it after two recounts. how can that be anything other than election fraud? at one point, he says, fellas, give me a break. i think it's just def vastatingf you have to defend tha

let's bring in clark cunningham, an expert on legal ethics and constitutional law.er senior district attorney. we should note your wife works in the communication department for fani willis. let me start with this chief of staff mark meadows, such a stark indication of how serious this case is and the high level of public officials, obviously, up to and including the president. who have been charged. >> reporter: yeah, in some ways it is rather surreal to see these people coming in zpand turning them in. the former president of the united states turning himself in. people are taking a deep breath and gearing themselves. this is not the end of the process. we're probably more in the middle of the process. >> and in a matter of hours, we expect to see the president go to that jail. as somebody who worked closely with d.a. fani willis, what do you think is on her mind as she moves forward with a case against the former president, unprecedented actions but also unprecedented charges. >> i think the first party said unprecedented actions is the key here. no one has ever

of a charge until there been an opportunity for it to be a process through a court case. >> clark cunningham, professor of law georgia state university college of law. thank you very much for attention, and your clarity. i really appreciate it, sir. as i mentioned, this is an important, weird wrinkle in this georgia prosecution. there are not very many people who've been following this in terms of what it could eventually do. georgia republicans are saying what they want to use it for already. >> i don't think i quite understand the process. they're gonna file a complaint. and then there's a commission, and the commission makes the decision? >> it's a brand-new law, never been used before. what it looks like on paper, i could walk you through it. how it's gonna work in progress, i don't know. >> who makes the decision? >> the commission makes the decision. for example, who appoints the commission? well, no democrats will be involved in appointing any members of the commission. in fact, the democrats, the minority party legislature, they asked her during the debate, with the minority party be

of a charge until there been an opportunity for it to be a process through a court case. >> clark cunningham, professor of law georgia state university college of law. thank you very much for attention, and your clarity. i really appreciate it, sir. as i mentioned, this is an important, weird wrinkle in this georgia prosecution. there are not very many people who've been following this in terms of what it could eventually do. georgia republicans are saying what they want to use it for already. >> i don't think i quite understand the process. they're gonna file a complaint. and then there's a commission, and the commission makes the decision? >> it's a brand-new law, never been used before. what it looks like on paper, i could walk you through it. how it's gonna work in progress, i don't know. >> who makes the decision? >> the commission makes the decision. for example, who appoints the commission? well, no democrats will be involved in appointing any members of the commission. in fact, the democrats, the minority party legislature, they asked her during the debate, with the minority party be