clark fenton, cio, agili investment management is still with us. short bond a position, do you want to put it back on? clark: i am tempted. we covered it because economic data was getting worse, and with lyrical risk in europe, it is a natural thing for people to go to in terms of a flight to quality. with yields where they are today, i am tempted. i think fiscal stimulus is probably on the horizon for europe more broadly. manus: the consequence of shifts in bunds is about the linkage to banks. we have this divergent performance, it is between the bank index which is battered and bruised versus the barclays financial bond index. where are you tempted in europe? equities, bonds? how would you touch or play banks at all in the european region? clark: i think not at all is the short answer. on valuation grounds, they are becoming more interesting. what i worry about is the interest rate situation in europe, and i wonder if the ecb will have a chance to hike rates before the next recession is on us, and that will be brutal for banks. nejra: you said cre