by the way, other people buried or interred here include lucille ball, jack baring, clark gable, george burns, jimmy stewart, humphrey bogart, spencer tracy. our special guest is jermaine jackson. what can we say? what's this year been like? >> it's been tough, larry. it went so fast. we've been just putting the pieces together and the family's having a lot of meetings. and just trying to hold on. >> larry: have you come to terms with it? have you ever really accepted it because he was so young? >> it's hard. no, we haven't come to terms. it's something we're learning to live with. but we will never accept it. it's just -- it's tough. it's very tough. >> larry: we all remember watching that funeral. who didn't watch it? now we're here in front of the mausoleum where your brother was interred. where was the funeral? was it right here? >> i think it was around the corner someplace. >> larry: they laid a carpet, right? >> yes. right. they laid a carpet. that was the private funeral that the immediate family and special friends and guests had. yeah. >> larry: that was some night. >> it's to