let's go to the australian capital and talk to clark jones. good morning to you. ,rom a london point of view good evening to you. what is the context of what is happening in sydney today? what was the buildup to this? was there any warning? can you put this in context? waxed there was no warning. to speculate at this stage because there is no profile of the offender. as you expect, the police are very closed up on what is going on. there is potential to upset police operations. it has been very hard to ascertain the exact nature of the incident. from what i observed, i think it is certainly a lone wolf if you can call it that. but i also think, considering incident,on of the two months ago, we had another incident that was disrupted. had -- b was to be ehead an innocent bystander. it wasn't significant at that another --ow, with you can say at this stage, act of terrorism -- it is a very busy section of the city. just near theated channel seven news studio, other government buildings. it is a very strategic place. this particular person would

we're joined now by our counter terrorism expert, clark jones. he's joining us on the line. so clark, you listened to the prime minister there. is he accurate when he says that even if this gunman haron had been under 24-hour monitoring that this attack could have still happened? >> caller: i'm not sure about that. the likelihood of the watching, i mean, apparently, he was carrying a bag with a shotgun. i mean there would have been indicators, plearior to carryin out the act. it depends on how much surveillance or how much attention is placed on the person. so obviously, this person had been released on bail even though he'd committed many criminal acts. there would have been an assessment made as to the level of threat he posed. so i'm not sure about that. but the other thing is, he hadn't, he had converted from shia to sunni. he had his own website. there were some indicators that the level of radicalization, but he hadn't voiced that he was, that he had potential for violence or violent extremism. maybe it's hindsight to say these things, but i'm not sure i agree with ever

clarke jones, thank you so much for your perspective and your time this morning. thank you, this evening in sydney. >> thank you very much. i wish i could say more. >> we will keep you up to speed. hostages in a cafe. we have reaction from the ground and the questions swirling around the motives of this man. who is he and will he let these people go? i had these very burning, needle-like sensations. i knew i needed to see a doctor. my doctor said, "let's try lyrica." lyrica has helped relieve my pain. it's known that diabetes damages nerves lyrica is fda-approved to treat diabetic nerve pain. lyrica is not for everyone. it may cause serious allergic reactions, or suicidal thoughts or actions. tell your doctor right away if you have these, new or worsening depression, or unusual changes in mood or behavior. or swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, changes in eyesight including blurry vision, muscle pain with fever, tired feeling, or skin sores from diabetes. common side effects are dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain and swelling of hands, legs and fee

joining us is counter terrorism expert clark jones. he joins us on the line.f you look at what's going on in sydney over the last several hours, this low-impact operation, it seems like that would be what isis would like. >> caller: it seems that there are five hostages released. i think that's a good sign that police are making progress, it's a very delicate operation. but you're right in the sense that if we look at previous acts or plots, previous acts and the act that happened in canada, that these guys wanten to eto with a bang, although they might not be specifically connected to the islamic state, they do feel connected and they want to show everybody that they support and are doing their bit for the islamic state or the nation of the islamic caliphate. if that's the case, this guy is an islamic state supporter or has support to another jihadist group overseas. time will tell. but it's certainly playing out that he would like to associate himself as a jihadist and a member of a particular group. i can see it playing out that way. >> and clark, what abou

clark. we are 21 hours away from the eagles/cowboys rematch. here are the boys arriving into town. jerry jonesning autographs for the fraud cowboy fans in our area. it is on. >> when you win in the division, a home game, it counts as two. we realize that this team is really who we are creating against when you talk about a division. i think everybody is fired up. >> we got to do it again. we got to get focused. we are playing a different team. we have to be prepared for a different team. a team ready to get revenge. >> yeah. it's all right here on nbc 10 tomorrow night. catch our live post-game show perfect outside the eagles locker room. the sixers were on their way to their first win at home this season against a team with the second best record in the nba the grizzlies. will smith in the house watching his men in blue. mcw with a triple double. sixers were up 18 with seven minutes left. but they let it slip away. buzzer beater, overtime. look at the crowd, stunned. sixers loose a heart breaker 120-115 in ot. >> a cruel loss. that's a very cruel loss. >> yes, it is a cruel loss. flyers have

clark. today is the day the eagles/cowboys rematch tonight. birds have won nine of the last ten games against dallas in december. here are the boys arriving into philly last night. jerry jones signing autographs for the fraud cowboy fans living in our area. it is on! >> winning the division, especially being a home game, we realize this team is really who we're competing against when you talk about the division. so i think everybody is fired up. >> we got to do it again. we got to get focused. we know we're playing a different team and we got to be prepared for a whole different team, a team who is ready to get revenge. >> and it is all right here on nbc 10 tonight. and afterwards, catch our live postgame show from outside the eagles locker room. hey, sixers were on their way to the first win at home this season against the team with the second best record in the nba, the grizzlies. will smith in the house. third quarter, michael carter williams driving and he'll throw it down. mcw the triple double. but sia three point lead at the buzzer. oh, my goodness,s to overtime. sixers lose a heart breaker in overtime 120-115. >> a cruel loss. that is a very cruel loss. >> that is a

clark. today is the day the eagles/cowboys rematch tonight. birds have won nine of the last ten games against dallas in december. here are the boys arriving into philly last night. jerry jonesautographs for the fraud cowboy fans living in our area. it is on! >> winning the division, especially being a home game, we realize this team is really who we're competing against when you talk about the division. so i think everybody is fired up. >> we got to do it again. we got to get focused. we know we're playing a different team and we got to be prepared for a whole different team, a team who is ready to get revenge. >> and it is all right here on nbc 10 tonight. and afterwards, catch our live postgame show from outside the eagles locker room. hey, sixers were on their way to the first win at home this season against the team with the second best record in the nba, the grizzlies. will smith in the house. third quarter, michael carter williams driving and he'll throw it down. mcw the triple double. but a three point lead at the buzzer. oh, my goodness, mike conley sends to overtime. sixers lose a heartbreaker in overtime 120-115. >> a cruel loss. that is a very cruel loss. >> that

clark. today is the day the eagles/cowboys rematch tonight. birds have won nine of the last ten games against dallas in december. here are the boys arriving into philly last night. jerry jonesigning autographs for the fraud cowboy fans living in our area. it is on! >> winning the division, especially being a home game, we realize this team is really who we're competing against when you talk about the division. so i think everybody is fired up. >> we got to do it again. we got to get focused. we know we're playing a different team and we got to be prepared for a whole different team, a team who is ready to get revenge. >> and it is all right here on nbc 10 tonight. and afterwards, catch our live postgame show from outside the eagles locker room. hey, sixers were on their way to the first win at home this season against the team with the second best record in the nba, the grizzlies. will smith in the house. third quarter, michael carter williams driving and he'll throw it down. mcw the triple double. but a three point lead at the buzzer. oh, my goodness, mike conley sends to overtime. sixers lose a heartbreaker in overtime 120-115. >> a cruel loss. that is a very cruel loss.