. >>> joining me right now on the phone is brent clark palmer. after the first quake thursday measuring 6.4 magnitude, he led cleanup and recovery efforts but now they're back to square one. brent, glad you could be with me. how are you doing today? >> hey, first of all, i have lots of local friends here in this very small town, so i would not say i led the cleanup efforts. >> you were part of it, how about that? >> i just helped coordinate what emerged. it was all the people that wanted to help that put together -- put it together, and then i just -- i got to watch them help. >> oh, so you've got a sense of humor about it all, you know, this is very frightening. it's also a lot of work trying to pick up the pieces, reassess, et cetera, but then how do you compare these two earthquakes that you experienced? >> i'm not -- i haven't thought about a comparison of the two. they were -- i think if this earthquake had a personality or these earthquakes had a personality, it would actually be -- the story is about the aftershocks, not about the main ear