and clark welch finally said, if we go 50 yards towards that direction, that's where and he pointed to a trail. that's where your was killed. terry allen the commander who had been hiding an aerial when he was killed, you anthills of vietnam could be four or five feet high. we walk through there it's a beautiful dappled day. and in early february with trees, with leaves and we get to that spot and there's another anthill and just standing there with clark welch and tread consuelo allen and thinking about how time compressed you know into that moment was just the most unforgettable moment of my life at that that's my experience going back with veteran very powerful elizabeth going back well well, i covered the war in cambodia and it's memories of extraordinary pain and anguish that i don't think we've discussed quite quite enough to see a country destroyed front of your eyes when you're in your mid-twenties it was unforgettable. i went back to washington, worked at the washington post i it to me next to him and couldn't forget. so i my going back was to go back to cambodia under pol pot