no person walking in kings santa clausified shoes so it is a high crime area he's saying by definition these are not people's whose rights or humanities we are bound to respect. >> guest: that makes a lot of sense. it's another way the legacy of white supremacy is recast and reinvented that ends up criminalizing us ends up ensuring that your humanity let alone the poor preciousness is not acknowledged. that level of disrespect and of course that is part of white supremacy, the disrespect of black and yellow people. when he talks about excellence i think he also recognizes that he knows some street sleepers who have depths of integrity and decency that far out measure well-to-do folk driven by gangster proclivity, spiritual black eyes moral a sense of what's right but nothing is blowing because it's getting in the way. martin himself did not believe in material goods and possessions. martin was like that. he was full of that kind of commitment and that's rare but at least we can aspire to it. the sad thing is we live in the age of the sellout were to be successful at any cost by any mea

. >> yeah, santa clausified. old man with a bag giving out gifts and the fbi saying he's the most dangerous man in america. and other black leaders are saying when he's trying to organize poor people and critiques vietnam put forth with such power, he's betraying the movement he's un-american, he's a traitor to the country and so forth. so what does martin do? he says, you never i knew me. you never knew me. i'm called to love babies in vietnam, babies in appalachia, babies on the south side of chicago, in ethiopia. i'm a christian minister. for me justice is what love looks like in public just like p tenderness is what love feels like in private. there's no martin without ella baker, without stokley carmichael, without so many of the -- diane mark, we can go on -- diane nash, we can go on and on. >> talk about the santa clausification with respect to african-americans. because i think part of what you're describing is a kind of historical amnesia for the fact that dr. king was not always well loved within the bl