. >> joining us now, don't judge clay jenkins. i want to start out and ask how you're doing. >> i'm doing well. i was not one of the people out there risking their lives in the street that night. but they're doing well, too. and we're really feeling that support from the community. and that's helping a lot. >> i thought governor abbott's comments there, there's a key part. we've seen the ways in which mass atrocities, and we've had a number of them, can precipitate this panicked fear among people. they start on second-guess their ordinary routines. they start to move into kind of bunkers. and his call to not allow that to sort of take hold here in texas. >> absolutely. the shooter chose his course of action. now we get to choose our response. we can't let his act of hate rip us further apart. we can use this as an opportunity on bring people closer together. what i've called on our community to do. if you're white, try imagine what it is like to teach your middle aged children, or your middle school aged children, a new set of rul

we can feel it and it's appreciated. >> judge clay jenkins. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we want to show you the scene at the mass of healing in dallas led by bishop kevin farrell. let's listen in for a moment. >> msnbc got an exclusive mayor with dallas mayor mike rawlings. let's listen to that. >> other police officers that have died, you know, having five at one time is heart wrenching but the connection with race makes it so challenging. that we've got to talk about race but we have to talk about it in a way that builds us up. that helps us get over this bridge and that's a tough one. >> joining us now is minister dominique, founder of next generation, one of the organizers of the dallas protests. reverend, good to have you here. >> good to be here. glad to be here. >> how are you feeling? >> you know, we've been protesting for some time here in dallas and throughout the country. never in our wildest dreams, like i said before, that we would think that in our efforts to save lives would be this tragic to come towards us but we've been s

. >> joining us now, dallas county judge clay jenkins. he is head of the government in dallas county. judge, thanks for your time. >> thank you for having me. >> i want to start out there risking hair lives in the street that night. but they're doing well, too. we're really feeling that support from the community. that's helping a lot. >> i thought governor abbott's comments, there's a key part there which is we've seen the ways in which moss atrocities and we've had a number you have them, be precipitate this kind of panicked fear among people. they start to second-guess their ordinary routines and start to move into kind of bunkers. and his call i think to not allow that to sort of take hold here in texas. >> absolutely. the shooter chose his course of action. now we get to choose our response. we can't let his active hate rip us further apart. we can use this as an opportunity to bring people closer together. so what i've called on our community to do is if you're white, try to imagine what it's like to teach your middle aged children

>> out front now, clay jenkins, chief executive, director of homeland security and emergency management there as well. thank you very much. i appreciate it, clay. i know -- let me start with some of the new information. we know that johnson had a journal, that he had been writing things down, perhaps planning in there. is there anything more you can tell us about that? >> this is the crime of opportunity for him. he was looking for a greater amount of mayhem where he could put more ieds out and build those bombs. so, we're not fortunate because we've had a great loss of life, but it could have been worse. >> when you talk about the ieds, the police chief obviously saying a bomb tech who looked at the stockpile in his home said he knew what he was doing and the quote was, this wasn't some novice. you heard our reporter saying he wouldn't have had training to do this sort of thing in the military. do you know how he learned all of this? did he have any help? >> well, we're looking at that, to see if there's any complicity on anyone else. they're pouring through that evidence to see about

joining us is dallas clay county judge jenkins, head of the government there. thank you, sir, i know your time is precious. >> rachel, thank you for having me. >> can you give me your human assessment as a dallas resident and civil service assessment how your community is doing right now, how things are going in terms of trying to hold it together? >> you know, you can really feel the palpable support of the community for each other and our police officers and you can see it behind me, they've been coming here in a steady stream since the events unfolded thursday night and friday morning. there are thousands of people down at the vigil. we appreciate that. these officers need that. it's helpful and it's appreciated. >> what do you think is going to be different, judge jenkins, in dallas moving forward. i've heard so many people express what you just did there about the support that police officers feel, not just sympathy but support, in response to what happened. what do you think will be different in a material way going forward? how is dallas going to be chan

dallas county judge clay jenkins. thank you. >>> protests are still taking place across the country tonight. the pictures you're looking at now are out of atlanta, where hundreds if not thousands of demonstrators have taken to the streets. it remains a peaceful protest, much like the scene we saw in dallas last night before tragedy struck. joining us now is kell lon nixon, who attended yesterday's protest rally with his son. do we have kell onnixon? >> hello? >> as we continue to look at those protest pictures from atlanta, georgia, just some of the protests taking place across the country. as we said, we're trying to get kelley onnixon on the line. but as you can see, what happened in dallas certainly hasn't stopped americans from coming out in these outpourings of grief. i think it's fair to say that people are mixing their grief about the deaths in baton rouge, louisiana, and in minnesota with sorrow for the families of though officers in dallas. all right. we have kell onnixon on the line right now. thank you so m

dallas county judge clay jenkins. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you, sir. protesters still taking place across the country tonight. the pictures you're looking at now are out of atlanta, where hundred, if not thousands of demonstrators have taken to the streets. now it remains a peaceful protest, much like the scene we saw in dallas last night before tragedy struck. joining us now is kelp ian nixon who attended yesterday's rally with his son. do we have kellian nixon? >> hello? >> as we continue to look at those protest pictures from atlanta, georgia. some of the protests taking place across the country. we're trying to get kellian nixon on the line. as you can see, what happened in dallas certainly hasn't stopped americans from coming out in these outpours of grief. i think it's fair to say that people are mixing their grief about the deaths in baton rouge, louisiana, and in minnesota with sorrow for the family of those officers in dallas. we have kellian nixon on the line now. thank you so much for joining us. i appreciate you being here. >> it's kellan.

. >> now that is dallas county judge clay jenkins. he also talked about the the revelation that micah johnson scrawled the letters rb in his own blood on the walls of the parking garage where s.w.a.t. teams had cornered him and indicated authorities. certainly they are trying to decipher the meaning of those letters. >> we don't know at this time what rb stands for. the profilers will take that piece of information and a lot of other information, and they're trying to draw a picture of that. >> and, again, we are waiting for this president conference to start. meanwhile, president obama cut short his trip to spain, returning to the u.s. he is expected to attend an interfaith ceremony in dallas, along with former president george w. bush, who will be in attendance with former first lady, laura bush. we're learning that micah johnson's parents told "the blaze" website in an exclusive interview their son showed a noticeable change in behavior after being discharged from the army in 2015. his mother claims she watched her son transform fr

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