commissioner cleaveland, please. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you very much, chief wyrsch, for your report. couple of quick questions. do you track the type of overdosing that people are having on the streets? we have this huge uptick of narcan distribution. what percentage are fentanyl based and what percentage are heroin based and do you track the reason for the overdose or the cause? >> so if i may interject, when we give someone narcan, and it reverses the overdose, we know it's an opioid, okay? we don't necessarily know if it's fentanyl or heroin or what it is. so we don't run a test to figure that out typically, so that may be done at the hospital. but what we can say sort of anecdotally. but what we can say is the use of narcan by our members has gone up, and i know the health department has put a lot of narcan on the streets in the hands of folks who are addicts. and with the increase in opioid overdoses and deaths, there's more and more fentanyl out there. so i just don't know how much it is percentage wise, but -- but yeah, it's -- it's an issue, and it's much more -- it's

commissioner hardeman -- >> commissioner cleaveland: wont writer position on. give us an update on what's happening with that position. perhaps share if it has to be in closed session to discuss the candidates for the position. i think this position is so critical to future funding for lot of things that our department needs. i like to have that on the agenda and get an update from the department on what's happening. >> president nakajo: we'll have the chief of the department comment on that. >> updated. i gave vice president covington some of the applicants who we are going to get their red resus and who we want to interview. i'll be happy to talk to you about it. >> president nakajo: thank you very much. madam secretary. >> item 8. public comment on item 9 on all matters pertaining to item 9b below including public comment on whether the item 9b in closed session. >> president nakajo: any member of the public that wishes to give public comment on this item. seeing none, public comment is closed. >> vote on whether to conduct items 9b in closed session. the co