commissioner cleaveland? >> commissioner cleaveland: madam president, thank you. chief, good to see you this afternoon. quick question on the recruitment. are we still doing national testing to create any kind of list? do we -- are we working off an existing list? what's going on with that testing program? >> yeah, that testing program is constantly happening, and what happens is we determine a date that we want to pull the list, and then we get all those candidates off of that -- also off of that list, and that's how we begin. but we also are having conversations with the public safety testing unit about switching to a different test because my understanding, the n.t.m., it's nationwide, and it does have an impact on certain people, specifically, black, african american, and women, so we are looking to switch to -- of course i can't remember the initials now? sctc? sctc? yeah, we're looking to switch to sctc, which is california based and does not have that disparate impact, so we're meeting with the sctc testing team inside d.h.r. now. >> commissioner cleaveland

commissioner cleaveland? >> commissioner cleaveland: madame president, and thank you chief o'connor. great report. great update. we have needed this for some time. and i had a quick question. and that is do you think we'll be able to have that comprehensive city-wide plan done by december 31st of this year? >> absolutely. we're already working on estimates for the distance between hydrants right now and pipe overlays in the richmond and the hunter point area. and trying to give a robust presentation to supervisors to show what we need and need to do. i'm confident it will be done. it's in the early initial draft stages, but i think by december 31st it shouldn't be a problem at all. >> commissioner cleaveland: once we have the report, we can go to city hall and say we need a special eser bond just for the auxiliary water system upgrade, correct? >> exactly. exactly, commissioner. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you. thank you, madame president. >> president feinstein: thank you. any further comments from any

commissioner cleaveland, we can see and hear you clearly. >> commissioner cleaveland: maybe i'll just move my location. okay. i'll be back. >> president feinstein: okay. we're going to go ahead and close public comment. >> clerk: okay. >> president feinstein: we still have a forum, so let's proceed. >> clerk: item 3, approval of the minutes. discussion and possible objection to approve the regular meeting minutes from the april 28, 2021 meeting. >> president feinstein: and do we have any public comment on the minutes? >> clerk: there are two callers. i will check. caller one, do you have any public comment on the minutes? if you could answer yes or no. they're not responding. caller two, do you have any public comment on the minutes? and they are not commenting, either. >> president feinstein: okay. public comment will be closed. we'll move onto the commissioners. do any of my fellow commissioners have any comment on the approval of the minutes from april 28? i don't see any hands. we can revisit if commissioner cleaveland does, but i think we should go ahead, and if i can have a moti

commissioner cleaveland? >> commissioner cleaveland: madame president, and thank you chief o'connor. great report. great update. we have needed this for some time. and i had a quick question. and that is do you think we'll be able to have that comprehensive city-wide plan done by december 31st of this year? >> absolutely. we're already working on estimates for the distance between hydrants right now and pipe overlays in the richmond and the hunter point area. and trying to give a robust presentation to supervisors to show what we need and need to do. i'm confident it will be done. it's in the early initial draft stages, but i think by december 31st it shouldn't be a problem at all. >> commissioner cleaveland: once we have the report, we can go to city hall and say we need a special eser bond just for the auxiliary water system upgrade, correct? >> exactly. exactly, commissioner. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you. thank you, madame president. >> president feinstein: thank you. any further comments from any

commissioner cleaveland? >> commissioner cleaveland: madame president, and thank you chief o'connor. great report. great update. we have needed this for some time. and i had a quick question. and that is do you think we'll be able to have that comprehensive city-wide plan done by december 31st of this year? >> absolutely. we're already working on estimates for the distance between hydrants right now and pipe overlays in the richmond and the hunter point area. and trying to give a robust presentation to supervisors to show what we need and need to do. i'm confident it will be done. it's in the early initial draft stages, but i think by december 31st it shouldn't be a problem at all. >> commissioner cleaveland: once we have the report, we can go to city hall and say we need a special eser bond just for the auxiliary water system upgrade, correct? >> exactly. exactly, commissioner. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you. thank you, madame president. >> president feinstein: thank you. any further comments from any

commissioner cleaveland?mmissioner cleaveland: madame president, and thank you chief o'connor. great report. great update. we have needed this for some time. and i had a quick question. and that is do you think we'll be able to have that comprehensive city-wide plan done by december 31st of this year? >> absolutely. we're already working on estimates for the distance between hydrants right now and pipe overlays in the richmond and the hunter point area. and trying to give a robust presentation to supervisors to show what we need and need to do. i'm confident it will be done. it's in the early initial draft stages, but i think by december 31st it shouldn't be a problem at all. >> commissioner cleaveland: once we have the report, we can go to city hall and say we need a special eser bond just for the auxiliary water system upgrade, correct? >> exactly. exactly, commissioner. >> commissioner cleaveland: thank you. thank you, madame president. >> president feinstein: thank you. any further comments from any commi

. >> president: thank you, commissioner cleaveland.hief velo. >> it's historic from the 50s. >> president: like the rest of us. not you, but us. okay. >> [ laughter ]. >> president: all right. i'm sorry. commissioner nakajo. thank you for your patience. >> commissioner: thank you very much,

. >> president: thank you, commissioner cleaveland.ke the rest of us. not you, but us. okay. >> [ laughter ]. >> president: all right. i'm sorry. commissioner nakajo. thank you for your patience. >> commissioner: thank you very much, madam president. thank you, chief velo. that was very comprehensive. it's amazing in terms of how much you can present in terms of information with all of the categoricals. i just wanted to ask two questions for you, chief velo. i wanted to get a comment in terms of the airport with chief johnson in the sense of we know things are getting a little bit better. vaccines, etc.. i just want to be able to get briefed on what does the traffic look like at the airport and any kind of perception in terms of update, in terms of the commission and then i would like to add least hear from chief cahaja in terms of the transition going from the field to being the chief of the department. i just want to engage a little bit if you can indulge me. >> absolutely. chief johnson, go ahead. >> sure. good evening, commissioner